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To. The station with Premier League football and anyone else on Saturday praising because he should. Kill since Was this a success I scored this is 5 life. On AM and F.M. Are right in the U.K. On digital and online I brought shop more up on like the Henry Ford Museum an industrial complex in Dearborn Michigan is the biggest indoor outdoor museum complex anywhere in the United States as we can Pedia every year approximately 1700000 people come to take a right on a genuine Model T. See the limousine. As the ford of President Kennedy was riding when he was shot or the chair President Lincoln sat in at Ford's Theater in Washington D.C. When he was shot they too are the restored laboratory of Henry Ford's friend Thomas Edison or visit the state of the art Ford Rouge structure they can see the rebuilt bicycle shop where the Wright brothers work on the great man's vision that's not all the story. As you've been hearing in the news a body has been seen in the underwater records of the plane that was carrying the football or a 1000000 Osama and the pilot David Abbott's it follows a south switchers crowd funded after an appeal from Mr Salazar agent rescue teams are no developing a recovery plan for the plane which is 67 meters below the water Graeme brace weight as Professor of safety and accident and investigation Cranfield University and I asked Professor Braithwaite to remind us of the sequence of events after the 1st search the immediate search was cancelled so the initial search was to try and find survivors of the accident if that's what occurred and so that was called off after a period of time when the weather and the time that I may have been in the water was sufficient there was no chance of survival and it's no surprise that there was a further search to try and find the wreckage there was a private search but it may well be that the next mystic ash branch would have done that by their own anyway so it's no surprise that there's a 2nd search and the this fellow David marrons who actually found it was he part of the officials or the or the private search. So he was part of the private search there were 2 searches as I understood it and they coordinated so that they both covered a different part of the likely area where the aircraft was to be found and it just so happened that it was his search that located the aircraft 1st and then at that point I believe he handed it across to there actually a suggestion branch for them to send another remotely operated vehicle down to the seabed to go and have a look now the plane has been discovered off the course of Alden A in the in the Channel Islands in the water like around there as it is quite difficult to you would think bring up sunken plane so I think it said that depth of something like 67 meters it's a fair way town and I don't know too much about what the currents are like in that . Part of the sea but one of the considerations for recovering the aircraft is making sure that you don't damage it further and lose evidence during the recovery your Imagine the fuselage of an aircraft is actually quite delicate when you fill it with the whites of water that would be in this so if you try to lift off the seabed then unless you've secured it properly there's a risk that it will just fall apart particular as it comes out the water so the investigators will want to do as much as they can with the remember operated vehicle footage of it on the seabed. So they've got the best chance of understanding what happened to the aircraft and of course we'll see how it fell and so on how big a supply per mile of blue. So this is a 7 C. Aircraft it's only a single engine aircraft it's a relatively small. What we call general aviation aircraft although we hear it's relatively intact if it hit the water and the spade is likely to have lost some of its parts and is new rescuer it may well be that the parts that lost the most interesting stuff for example the propeller make if you're a sense of whether the propeller was turning whether the engine was delivering power when it hit the water and that would be quite important to understanding what happened to quite common for single engine planes to fly the channel it's quite a long hot particularly in winter weather to be doing in a single piston engine aircraft like this. Perhaps explains why I chose a flight plan that close to an alternative air power and the Channel Islands but certainly in winter weather that's quite a long trip to do and an aircraft like that. Because single engines are inherently. Less reliable than a twin engine I suppose you've always got one engine left if one prong side. Certainly of this size of aircraft Yes that's true if you've got one engine and it fails you have no other option than to try and make a forced landing and a forced landing at night onto water is an incredibly difficult thing to do with a Yes it's it is a much more risky activity than obviously flying a jet aircraft flying in a commercial aircraft So yes the higher interest you know and I'm going back to the condition or the potential condition of the wreck there's no recording equipment on a on a plane that's flying general aviation like this that's right for this size of aircraft . Operating on the American registry it's not required to carry a flight data recorder so investigators would be very limited in what recorded data that might be. Sometimes And in general aviation accidents it's possible to recover a G.P.S. You know maybe a. Photo or something like that if it's been sea water the likelihood of being able to recover useful data even from those would be very slim so they'll be relying on the wreckage to try and tell the story for I have happened. And obviously because a 1000000 or Solow are so high profile that there's great concern about the the accident but say under normal circumstances if he hadn't been you know as as well known and obviously potentially wealthy as as he as he was would would people raise the play and I mean if it was if it was you or me would would anybody get in there and say well we've got to bring the plane to the surface . I think it's a difficult question to answer because it would absolutely depend on what are the lessons for preventing future accidents that could come from a particular investigation and therefore does this wreckage need to be recovered so obviously the 1st priority is to recover the bodies if the to say says that's incredibly important but if the wreckage of the aircraft might tell you all happened then there might not be a need to to recover it from the seabed but I think each case would be you know determined on its merits of the think the focus would be around what can we learn to make sure that accidents like this don't happen in the future you know and if if you were looking at the records what would you there are pictures of the wreckage anyway from the submersible what would you be looking for I think you'd be looking for Certainly whether there was any evidence that the engine was working or indeed had stopped on the aircraft entered the water a classic example might be the shape of the propeller and if it's been bent if it's been bent to both ends the number might tell you that the engine was still powered and you'd look for where the damage was on the aircraft which might give you some idea of the angle there and to the water but if if one of the causes was for example icing either to the air frame of the aircraft or icing within the engine and the likelihood of there being physical evidence is very very slim Fessor gram brace weight from Cranfield University. There's a fair old rival in the back and City of deer bar in Michigan involving 2 unlikely protagonists on the one side is the city's mayor and on the other the stuff and publisher of the deer barn historian magazine and the dealer barn Historical Commission the arguments about a cover story in the latest issue of the magazine with a portrait of an avuncular looking Henry Ford whose hometown deer barn is and a quote from him which upset the mayor of deer barn John B. O'REILLY No end to the extent that the mayor fired Bill McGraw the editor of the deer barn historian and that quote attributed to Henry Ford the Jews it says is a race that has new civilization to point to investigating Henry Ford for anti semitism is to boo and the airborne apparently undercut shares assistant chief curator at the deer barn Historical Museum helos a catcher. Both Thanks so much for having me thank you for kind of talk to us that course not taken out of context or something is it I mean is that is that a genuine and quote from Henry Ford Well that's a really good question that quote actually appeared in the Dearborn Independent though this was a newspaper that Ford helped to publish. Here in the city it was actually a local paper that he purchased and then kind of famously used as an anti sematic rag it was you know sent out kind of nationally as a weekly. So that quote itself Henry Ford certainly a mechanical genius but I I gotta sleep wonder he's not highly educated he did have a spy team around him so the family not something he said exact way but something he certainly condoned through either explicit or tacit approval and something he finance I had a relationship to the the newspapers have a close I'm Tell us a little bit more about what about the newspaper and why why indeed it was cycle 8 and what was what was the aim of it. Certainly the newspaper itself started as a weekly for the kind of sleepy town of Dearborn Dearborn wasn't much of anything besides a small farming community that's what it was when Henry Ford he was born here in during the American Civil War and it's not until you know he kind of brings the industrialization of the city grows and has the Rouge River factory it's one of the world's largest and by the 1920 is actually a 100 years ago in 1900 and the reason we chose to focus on this particular topic is the centennial preferred buys the newspaper he says I know I got a lot of things to say I'm a billionaire now I'm one of the world's most richest most famous men and I should have kind of something to amplify my views he purchases the newspaper and he uses his staff that with people like J.D. Cameron was an editor slimeball who says kind of personal secretary who oversees it and he uses it to kind of a spouse some of us general views so he doesn't you know take an active role in a daily administration tells him generally you know here are some thoughts I had or some ideas I have they were coming to him with things there were some pretty anti semitic authors who were writing for it and would you know write something and again get that kind of approval along with just kind of run of the mill stuff you'd see in like a Saturday Evening Post General circular circular magazine like that tell us a little bit about the the culmination then of this rock and why Bill McGraw The editor is actually Saxon why why you're supporting him now and what's been happening to the the should the Sion of the magazine. Yes it's a really good question you know the magazine something that we send out quarterly and it usually goes to about 200 people it's a local historical society it's not. A leading paper in the states here or anything like that night certainly doubt that had the mayor not tried to quash the sod be talking to you here today now you probably would have heard of or a museum but you know that the cover was particularly provocative with that quote which it's it's can be a bit misleading since again Henry Ford probably didn't say say those words ever exactly although he did condone this through the publishing and financial support of the magazine but the mayor's position in the city's position basically is that there are 2 born is an incredibly diverse town today one of the most diverse in the United States actually pretty famous for our Arab American population. And if felt that he this story maybe reflected poorly on the diversity we have today and just focus on him inclusive it and trying to embrace I don't very progressive view it's a little confusing to me since obviously I think you can kind of do both at once Rob is a historical magazine and that kind of by definition makes you focus on history. It's not something spanked isn't it really I mean Want to how. How big a part of it says is playing an outsized part in some people's estimation of Henry Ford at the moment because you know they're not there not to ring the museum they're not to ring any of the places associated with Henry farden saying All in all a great stuff that far dead but but how. How important is it to have this knowledge and indeed has this knowledge in Dearborn about farts beliefs been suppressed in any way before the attempt to stop the publication of this issue of the magazine. Sure I would say there's been an outright suppression before certainly not from the museum it's been simply kind of a lack of examination I think it's pretty important information to get out there frankly Henry Ford's obviously our kind of hometown hero certainly one of most famous men in the world comes from your town puts it on the map I mean our museum has nothing no qualms against Henry Ford he's certainly an interesting person worthy of a lot of study did amazing things for the town we've got you know has had on display we've written books that mention him or his home and title but it's important that you look at everything and you know to not cover this is basically a lie of omission and particularly kind of repugnant to me to try and censor anti semitism or suppress information about anti semitism because in a in a way that's a form of anti-Semitism you look at people on the kind of fringe right movements white supremacist neo nazis and they you know deny things like the Holocaust and that kind of denial of these past things and certainly Henry Ford's comments are not directly a Cleveland to killing millions of race but. Certainly they contributed to that in the 1920 S. And even still today that's actually part of the article is that there are fringe groups today that still use the writings of Henry Ford in particular some of the worst of the writings from the Independent were published in book form called the International Jew it was translated into languages and off it was a famous owner of that book and used it as quite a bit of inspiration Well that was a quote in the in the New York Times piece which was drew our attention and it was ascribed to Adolf Hitler himself as that is that so can you can you tell us that story about his relationship with with those writings. Sure these were again published in the 1920 S. So this is before that Offit war took power in Germany and having some of these things coming in is translating it and saying look forward says this Ford is a great guy. Very very famous he's got a lot of credibility to his name people in Europe certainly knew about Henry Ford. There was you know famously that all filler mentioned and the Ford mind calm is the only American mentioned in the book and yet a portrait of Ford later on in life in 1038 after the Nazis had seized power Henry Ford accepted a medal from them on his 75th birthday and there's actually some photos of it's kind of a pretty embarrassing moment I think for the man's life certainly a low point says openly accept a medal from the 3rd Reich. I mean is when I'm 19000000 actually America and there's a match of you know historical value would that qualify me for a dozen Nazi sympathizer. I don't think it quite goes that far it has it's very complicated and that's one of the reasons I think it's worth study certainly there's the question of you know well you didn't say no but Ford was very always clear during the 2nd World War for instance because there was some connotation that you know or some questions that some people had maybe just have sympathy for the Nazis that he was you know very fervent in the American war effort and made sure to know that you know for back the United States 100 percent he was in the same kind of boat as someone like Charles Lindbergh who we've heard of before heard this today but you know within this America 1st Movement and was a pacifist but really kind of. Had some questionable leanings and some questionable loyalties and I had to work extra hard during the war to you know show were there to boil to slay so so what's the outlook for the independence then of the DIA barn historian magazine is there because we understand it's financed by the Taiwan or the city of the airborne Is there a possibility neither the this issue of the magazine will in fact be be published know that it's important as it's much more widely known you know that's anybody's guess that would be my hope I guess I have to commend the mayor for you know exposing this to millions more people than would have others or I've seen it this is certainly a ca