how are you very very good Jason figure slow are you. But I know they're you know how are you not very good thank you very much I want people to know and no one likes to be predictable and you know the creates a triangle so what creative things do you do. I'm a company might sound almost they're saying Am you come actress say that that's quite bad I'm very impressed for a start and say What do you teach I see a writer director not a director writer Well it could be that as well well known writer director because they figure you need to write before you know you can draw yeah good point and John ready to go I do lots of stuff from a film producer actor writer and the show you know so I'm a D.J. I deny Yeah because I know what kind of I kind of a show Norfolk for a station which small very small triad going over the show not a guy like Kenny ever I am if. They would get and how how do you know each other how to get together what's your connection and a long story he wants to tell it's you know Jason I like it because I'll give the short version you can so well the short version is. He still film Little directed a few years ago he made a comment on You Tube He then phoned in commission to direct a film about Elmore James in the beautiful. Region across the region again in Norfolk. And then he got to come to me thanks to Julie who would seen that I was here making that film and being a journalist he wanted to do a documentary you want to do an article on me and we ended up realizing that we'd so much in common that I thought I need a new producer especially in the U.K. Would you like to give it a go and he said All right I'll give it a go and turned out to be brilliant others so I'm up for the call. Yeah on a film site on the tape that you end up working together exactly I saw Frank's Julie saying we're going to be in the middle exegesis of your plates Paul central media sometimes can work but I've got to tell you I. Yeah you're all making stuff all inspired by making stuff in Suffolk and the wider area yes really dumb What if it makes 7 we and that was filmed at the end of last year which is a feature film written directed by Jason and starring me Lauer Bellman and Judy is the ghost I play with the thing about that was that I had a read I wrote didn't 2016 and I was going to shoot it in Cork but I could never find the right place and I could never find the time where Lara could put her kids and to care for her family of course not not for you know national care or anything like that so it became really close problematic How am I going to do this and then the 2 of them really introduce me to so forget the a more James film OK so I just thought this is actually the perfect bloats Julia not only before she got cast in the film she was the locations manager so she filmed an incredible amount of places and then John and her you know we learned to potentials we found one and not only was it the perfect location but the interior was exactly as how it written in the script the layers was exactly the same so we knew we had to do it here so it's a fight is bringing even more we'll talk later on in the program about the kind of pros and cons of how suffocates doing in attracting people to come and make films we've got screen Suffolk on the program but later on of course yesterday is the huge film at the moment which has been filmed partly in Suffolk on Hayles worth and Ghost debates and. Actually no good guys I know you would be to say you were on the beach scene where you all are so yeah I heard many lots and lots of EVA so mean that you know it is a great advocate for making films in Suffolk but we want to attract people of all levels and from. More big blockbusters to know if it's a Suffolk that could be space scenes for invasions of Mars and what have you over to Wolf an exposure to the music we go more voters said Exactly it'll start with White House script now I want you know now I'm going to talk about comedy writing you're going to talk about being. Post offices and we're going to talk about. Blue Peter because you're a very special guest who's not yet made his presence known but we will introduce him in a moment or 2 let's have another film related so this is the Beatles' A Hard Day's Night he says me because I'm a big B. And they're absolutely wonderful and they changed music history and what more can you cite Beatles John Lennon Paul McCartney Ringo Starr. The Beatles Absolutely. When I started OK I'll give you a fact about that film you can give me a fact about from God When I listen how kind with cyber world grotty was invented for that film that's the 1st time it was ever used George Harrison looks at some shirts and says Here these are take these are I became party English language that's true. So you know you try seems new that I see grotty would be some kind of Anglo-Saxon word but no no no it was invented for the film. When the I was a playwright little Paul and he hung around with a Beatles for about a week and he just sort of took our personalities like Jonah which he pulled a key one Joule was the quiet one and Ringo to clown. And invented what he did more Beatles facts to come so we have our creative triangle here taking over B.B.C. Radio Suffolk you for your star studded address books with you we've got some great interviews just read off some names if you've got coming up on the program later on JACKSON Well I interviewed 2 greats you know go very well known for the Saint in the 99 he's old so then Keane who was in pretty much everything from the seventy's onwards so they were fantastic. One of the leading experts in Jack the Ripper and Lauer Belmont it was in Winifred Meeks with us and you come out and game each. And probably the 1st play olf you'll come yes yes. Yes with the drama so I told him he dives in a separate seat as a surprise for us but but let's introduce the man in the striped shirt on all right for us who we got because Peter Perkins from Blue Peter company puts these wonderful doctor who. Joined your folks Yes Welcome welcome pizza to the program I so much why on earth people have this with you because real finance I grew up watching Blue patient 1970 S. And he's one of my heroes along with violent John and Leslie I disagree on now and I wanted to be on Blue Peter but he took me down you know I actually wrote some pizza and a secret opium pulling page and I said no that was it on every 7 o'clock oh about something that you know Reza ERISA we should to scrawl a. Yes it's very nice arches go very it's called The Picture of The Shield which is the blue PETER BUNCH of course but instead of having the ship on that scale lovely picture of my old mate John notes in this lovely don't show up and says get down ship it's very nice you look a bit of a twit was right about the timing so I'm going to be scared yes it's just been said about why don't you get to the end of sorry that you won't go down well yes he did it in fact it was popularized by all things for the Star or the grumble we saw someone like not paranoid steals are not the song not. Made the count phrase but Johnny did say not in the door always your own shit I mean you know why wouldn't you say it exactly what I said he was well with that show John not Joyce seem to do the stunts but you did a few Didn't you know I did do a few but it wasn't my main role I mean not to. So the keeper do the serious stuff and also to do the more factual films and they asked me to do a few use they call them stunts if you like I used to rock rock climbing films with people like Chris Bonnington in the like district absolutely wonderful times are in and I find joy dot I've been a rock climber when I was younger but I was still young when I was saying that seems like such a long time ago but yeah and I did stunt car driving I drive racing cars we did speedway I did trials riding which got me another culture Oh call kickstart you might remember very well the eighty's and early ninety's when there were ingenue kickstart finally finally finished so you know that it's been a very very nice time and Blue Peter was absolutely the jewel because last year was the 60th anniversary was he was he had an amazing Yes 60 years and it was it was a good guys ring to the other and if anyone actually saw the 60 S. Program live but it was it was lovely I mean I think there were 25 former presenters or 26 and I think have been 30 or I should not even slightly something I had 636 Yeah I think there's a How were you on blueprint 10 office so no as long as John noted he did 12 he was the longest I was the 2nd longest running comic book 7 as well as having a play Peter T. Shirts you haven't explained why you have a sense the right yesterday to set. That I won't do the show Elizabeth. If you like I do you know they are I didn't know the show of the show in Dublin but there you go yeah yeah it's all over the way over Actually Peter Peter Lord John didn't know the show the show in Dublin so when I was a kid growing up I rush home from school in order to see Blue Peter but a lot of people just sort of shown across Britain but I mean I keep telling people geographically orld is part of the British Isles you know so we got it as well so I was. No I was a dentist but Peter Purvis because he was the big strong as he was almost say the straight man in the comedy team and I was kind of thought that's the kind of guy I want to be and I want to do all that kind of action stuff and just be the tough guy you know so yeah so I said I'm not doing the show unless Peter purposes or I'm glad I'm Julie what about you what about me can I say my favorite thing about 3 you can't have your favorite thing but I think that's days because they didn't exist and I was always hungry and I always feel I really want a piece of that cake yeah you know like Terry said but I mean it is they say they didn't think they were extraordinary and I know that the pets that often in a. Program I mean it was quite innovative in that way because in the sixty's when a lot of people lived in highrise plots and council properties and all the rest of it much less home ownership from people lot of people couldn't keep pets and be back Susie the great also crossing ruler of Blue Peter in her great wisdom and it was wise because it was a very clever idea she thought it would be good to have a pass on the program as a surrogate pet for all those people who couldn't have them and that big they had a dog that was called Petra named by the audience and became one of the country's most well one of the most famous dogs in the world for a while yeah I mean people think well Petra died might national news only do so if you know there was it was it was very sad time issue 615 you know when she died I was a good age for a little mongrel like she was never and so a lot of people still think she was a German Shepherd she was a German shepherd cross. Border collie cross rod but there were so many bits in Petra she could have been anything I mean that she was a real Heinz variety because it was a story to you lost it once and you're really worried about it oh I did I was I was in. My family and I got selected sure a lot of friends in the late show and I was I was in repertory theater in Barrow in Furness which is on the fringe of the Lake District so I was. Fabulous place to be and I spent a lot of time that's where I learned to rock climb and we'd gone back there seeing some friends and we went off on a picnic and were I think we were in Bora Dale sitting near the force of a crack that I climbed block cracked and we had a picnic and there are about 12 of us there absolutely been wonderful day and suddenly Petro wasn't with us. Instant panic called or nothing nothing we search for about 3 hours absolutely got nowhere and in the end it was not getting dark but it was towards the end of the afternoon and eyes present everyone home I said Look I'll stay here but you know of a few go and I'll just keep on searching and I wandered around calling and calling in quite suddenly I can't tell you the relief because I was OK much what was going through my head I'm gonna have to tell the audience millions millions of people I've lost their dog. Suddenly I heard this bark and it was it was very faint and I was way away from where we'd been came to a river which was running quite fast. And eventually I kept on calling and eventually she came and I saw it coming across very very slow and she. Need to remember it was fairly shallow and you know shingle and rocks and things but she she came across the river and she was absolutely exhausted I can't I'm never absolutely so. Is my salvation as much as anything but such a really terrifying moment he said it would have. To choose. What to teach us I did yeah I did it I could a chosen so many I do go back a while but this is a real heavy rock number obsolete love it I'm not sure what version you've got but it's by the band who for me are just the greatest band very only one of them remains alive Robbie Robertson fantastic band from the sixty's and seventy's who are Bob Dylan's electronic backing band which upsets a lot of people but my god the good this is the shape I mean. How you gonna. Come downtown. How I. Look because. You know. You know. I'm. Going to show. Not. My. Issue. We guided the band and the shake and the choice of Peter Pan This is our guest on the cheese day take the creative triangle writers actors and filmmakers John West Jason ficus and Judy Abbott's taking over now you've invited Peter along but she is tight lipped about what you're doing with him. Correct yeah we heard I'm sure Peter can talk about the more because you know a lot more about as he was involved and we heard about this wonderful play that he did about Blue Peter which was at the Edinburgh Fringe and I read it and contacted him Vincent is also involved and I asked about doing a certain thing which we're hoping is going to happen soon in the future but unfortunately until all the rights are cleared we can't talk about this is the secretive world to all things the business that you're in but tell us about that and repeat or. Was it was a great time Tim Vinson contacted me about I suppose it was April last year 1st. And so they had this idea and he sort of threw that me. Just generally and I so sounds great yeah I'm up for that and it developed and he engaged him witness all who was in the living a award winning comedy writer he wrote a brilliant play which I bet Julia knows about MORCOMBE Oh yes and he wanted to live in a war that. He engaged him when all to write the script to met me Janice Sallis who was the 2nd person Tim contacted if we to turned it down it wouldn't happen but we both said yeah we go for that and Peter Duncan was there and mockery and he had been in my case I had a an extremely nice brunch with him in Chizik Funnily enough I then interviewed him when he became the young Elvis in the 1st production of Elvis in 1977 when it was. In London and interviewed him on Blue Peter lovely guy and he just got the job as the young Elvis is a good singer he's pretty red hot Actually he's a great writer and he talks about we talk various bits are reminiscences nor all the rest of it. And he said fine that's great and the next thing I knew which was a few weeks later I got the 1st draft of the script and it was a play call one scene on Blue Peter where we all play ourselves but it's a slightly heightened version of ourselves. I'm always late and pretty scruffy which was not my image on the show. Piece and Duncan was the actor who really wanted to be the actor he didn't want to be a presenter John it was all over the place years. And Mark was very camp so obviously it was a very interesting script and it had a lot of what we'd said. Some of it was our own words and he'd taken it verbatim and used it and we ended up with it and now long play which was also in but only briefly it was the problem was I was double booked I couldn't do the 1st 5 performances of the show in Edinburgh because I was doing something else so he had to play me so the script was written with him not playing me playing and so because of his assess the production work I wish he had his stuff in it and then he had a shortened version which was added to the other one for him to play when we all got together in Edinburgh and there was a surprise guest as well and so we went to the fringe and we played there we played 2 performances in London. A little theatre in inches it 1st of all which was a tryout and went down a storm went to Edinburgh and we got to reflect reviews we didn't get massive audiences people tended not to know that we were there when there were those awful of the people came up to me afterwards or said we're so disappointed we didn't know the show was on why I don't know we had masses of publishing but those that did come and it was a good audience every time but not the packed audience that we were hoping for and we got 5 star reviews and it was it was an absolutely wonderful time I thoroughly enjoyed myself so that the others and we think the show has a life but that's all we can say at the moment so we will see what happens from that in Edinburgh as an experience for anyone and there's the so much um that I guess they'd have to believe that you were really you well yes I'm not sure what they thought but and I'm not sure what they thought they were going to see it was a clever idea it was set in the green room of a television awards ceremony where we were being invited to receive a special award and the interplay between us was which of us was going up to receive it and it boasting pushing the being quite unpleasant to each other at times we wanted to be the one who was going to. Be that under was a tourist us all I can say but it was work to storm front. Obviously peace is just one aspect of your career We'll talk more about television possibly Suffolk Talk Day and other things that will go it's coming up a little bit later on we've got. An inside to see what it's like to ride around Suffolk on horseback with a big sold coming up now and in the 1960 S. And more to come from your big box of music include some theme chains which I think people will like bots that gave us monkeys is another one of yours is it yes I love the monkeys I grew up watching in the 1970 S. Not for a round then I didn't realize it was sixty's by and then they would have America's own sort of the Beatles you see you had Davy Jones in I mean he was English I met him actually in the 1980 S. He was doing Godspell in London and I went backstage and said I would die Evie and he's very short you know not short a name I'm forcing. So I love the guy and the monkeys are a big part me life and yeah I was kind of site after having a. You know they got. Me through. She's seen. This and sit. See radio. That's right I'll be producing a very special program stories from latitude to go out on the Sunday afternoon so if you are heading along to the festival people come from across the world in Suffolk to last a festival all sorts of things as well as the bands there's a great theater and dance and. Sculptures in the forest it is just a brilliant place to be but if you are there and you see me maybe you can be part of my storytelling We'll see how that unfolds but yes a special program on B.B.C. Radio Suffolk and of course lots of local music as well we're talking films my guests taking over the radio station to see the other creative triangle John West Jason figures and Julie Abbott's we've been in conversation with Peter Purvis relating to possibly some projects on the horizon but Suffolk has been the scene of many many films including The witch find a general Tell me about that film JACKSON Well the 1st film was saw I was deeply disturbed but because one of the most aggressive and violent films ever made even by today's standards particular scene the burning of all which is ingrained in