And spoke to them and showed almost has been same situation of risk that they were it would give them the impetus to feel that they could carry on doing the toss they were doing I've had people subsequently say to me it made complete difference to them the fact I was in there on this page risked my life in the tower the foreign secretary Jeremy Hunt says he said a frank exchange of views with the Russian foreign minister about a nerve agent poisoning insole spree Mr Hunt is at the U.N. In New York City made it clear to say a lever off that it was unacceptable for Moscow to instruct to intelligence offices to use chemical weapons on British soil. A conference aimed at tackling gangs a new file and it was hosted by Bev a chip police today its aim was to get the community involved in preventing young people becoming embroiled in drugs and carry knives the sister of murdered Bedford teenager Isaac Stone who was stabbed to death in 2014 was among the speakers Jackie Sabir is Assistant Chief Constable of beds police it's easy for me to get up on a stage and quite statistics what is different is when you have the victims behind those statistics they make the difference because actually it could be any one son or daughter it going to prison or being stabbed or getting involved in this and so it's the those voices that are most impacted if the number of people dying in road accidents because they were wearing a seat belt is increasing the charity brake says a lack of government interested in proving road safety as made drivers and passengers complacent and Joan can live who created the children's television series Postman Pat and Rosie and Jim has died at the age of 85 Postman Pat was commissioned by the B.B.C. In 981 and went on to be broadcast in more than 50 countries around the world the weather becoming cloudy after midnight with a chance of drizzle and a low of 11 Celsius and get the latest news and sport online at B.B.C. U.K. Slash 3 counties. B.B.C. . Morning it's the J.B.S. From 6 o'clock to morrow morning it's Andy college now it's read that ever only on B.B.C. 3 Counties radio very good evening sir it's nice for talking politics and this counts and I referred to them from the show as being from the argumentative school of local politics and I mean that was great respect because they can each hold their own let me introduce you to Elizabeth Dennis's from the Hitchin and hop in the Labor Party. Rita is a liberal Democrat from outer reaches Rita has been the counsel before and has worked in the world of education and she's welcome anytime Welcome back Rita and completing concluding our house right. I was expecting Bill Chappell Oh be a one of go is Bill Chappell would he be an honorary you know you have that bill is a Conservative councillor from booking Council I thought Oh sure look at the sums you serve the community will have a 40 years at least 40 to 42 years when you build. With the savings I'll give you the phone number one. Double 0 the text number 813 double 3 Start your text you can email you can Facebook you can tweet you can pasta window and use one just if you want pleasant ones I will start with this question. The latest on a conference will of course take up much of our attention something new to me but when we start with this story it's about the corruption of truth politicians should sign an oath of truth before taking part in Prime Minister's Questions From a football or naval Southall I suggest that the former Everton and Wales goalkeeper situation are told off if they lie but it's accepted from politicians that he was talking to a fringe meeting at the Labor Party Conference Lupul this week and he said if I'm lucky my job I would get the sack they get an extra 50000 pounds I would like to see politicians sign an oath to tell the truth before PM kids quite a noble idea this is both sign and truth doesn't make party manifestos legally binding because it's like I think it's I think it's a lovely nation but I also think that the majority of politicians go into this game not necessarily intending to laws and was very very honorable intentions and then for some reason along the way maybe it's career advancement in accepting a permanent private secretary role while still claiming to help your constituents or has the money. For that it should be. Quicker for among. All other reasons all of them a constantly telling isn't promising is that she's going to do you things in the social. This thing got dropped really really quickly didn't it I mean what signing an oath of trees to stop those things happening no it wouldn't because everyone goes into it with honest intentions the best will in the world and sometimes that stings and stuff in general it's never as easy to get things done as it appears at 1st I think and at PM keys as well. As going to be a political agenda you've got those cameras in the reman it's the time when Westminster is in the public eye most that I knew the point in the week Bill Chappell should they sign the declaration of truth and if he did then you'd have to get everybody to do it and not to everybody who would cast the 1st stone because everybody. Around everywhere law it sometime in the law is in the ring as well and then why don't they just not with their perhaps withholding the truth they tell us something that perhaps they can manipulate what they tell us well I mean here tonight you've got to counselors and one who has been a congressman we've started off with the best intentions try and do an honest job front and get a Issues of local people heard and solved but I try to be as honest as best as I can but if you don't have if you had total honesty within prime minister questioned on one it would. Be. Received by any of the M.P.'s with with God TONY JONES Because even the questions that come to the prime minister are based normally around a lie. And what's your take on this is the idea from level south or former football up and now speak a different meeting that they want a conference yes I read this with interest because of course I have a reputation for being too truthful about it but don't like what I say sometimes you know I think it has to be a measured truth because if I really said what I thought about what I knew I probably you know not survive the political realm assholes so you know I think it's a silly idea. To be honest because there's lots of research about truth and who speaks and who doesn't and who lies we all die a lot too much not we do it but I sometimes to protect people's feelings sometimes to protect your own situations all kinds of reasons why you know I actually think there are probably good lies and bad to be honest you know ones that are down as you say good intentions and others which are malicious So I don't think there's such a thing as a lot I. Did squeeze in to join the conversation challenge with the panel saying you can text 813 double 3 Start your text 37 call as well or just tweet what I want to there's lots of ways of getting touch with the program no general election but she said that last year's up. Said it would not be in the national interest for a general election to take place before the U.K. Leaves the E.U. In March 29th even speaking to journalists who were accompanying her on a trip to New York where she's focused on the rim brakes apparently Labor's been demanding an early vote if M.P.'s reject any deal struck between the U.K. And the E.U. The next election is scheduled for 2022 Bill Chappell funding for this one to you 1st this is made this week in you know there is not going to be a general election but she said that last time. I think you'll find she is right we do not need a general election or the thing that her facts are country more than anything is uncertainty and if we had a general election in the next year all it would do was increase our uncertainty you've got labor change in the port is on a weekly basis you've got 3 they're trying their best to get a deal from bricks and. Bricks it is a very odd subject and the trouble is we've got a media they're not good callers and I mean by not being good go. They say has planted and then lifted a every door just favorites growing OK well the league. A possible direction came from Number 10 something inside of a turn of the weekend at least one of the it's not it's not the that. Is it's it's people even around trees Major League story number 10 is a massive I mean I've been there several force me. Out last. Response has been sort of what is involved with drugs are a large family. Name are all unpaid for the hard work. Of all parties. But I don't think it is in their interest to have a general election in this business she says there is going to be no general election which said that last time she did. I think the issue here is there's a pretty big vote that's got to go through the house and have to reason they cannot win that vote and the government can't win that vital fight to sort out whatever it is she's trying to sort out with breaks that it calls into question the competency of this government and as soon as you've got that lack of confidence Europe is going to have a lack of confidence in the government trying to negotiate with and the question needs to be asked do we go back to the people and do we let the people say well actually we've lost confidence in you Theresa May and all of your cabinet and your government which I think from what a lot of us are hearing people of very very unhappy and very dissatisfied with the brakes at message that we're getting through they want to general election because as. I know bless and she's she's lovely isn't she and I think people are getting a bit of fatigue as well but what's worse to go and have to track down to the polling station to pick a government that might actually be able to get the job done and get a sensible deal and resolution to this mess that the Tories took is in to you or to let them carry on bumbling along you know minority we've all come to practice but. If something were to happen and somehow Jeremy got the case number 10. In what deal would they be struck your party trying to strike with you because kids dumbasses one thing is one thing and. Anything at all. But it was a very good question and it's definitely above my pay he craves to try and sort of be internal squabbling but the deal that has been trying to push forward this is very sensible is founded on sound economic policies and it's looking at what kind of breaks the deal do we get that's not putting us in a Canada position which really isn't a strong position for has to be and we're one nation trying to deal with $27.00 states why on earth would be want to weaken our position what we need is a free trade free trade and free movement. Of the prosper that seems to be the best option should have should have been for. No general elections this threesome I hope she said that last time well I can tell you the position of the Liberal Democrats as you know is that we want to have any kind of a deal go to the vote to a people's vote not a 2nd referendum because that would be a referendum is not and is now saying. You know you did something very in the research how you keep on saying that on the right but there are they all are different but none the case I see on The Boss I live in the row real world of the a pass the people going into Luton and now I'm a big boss Hughes and I can share with you it is about time Bill nobody i Speech who wants another election what they want is to move on that awfully fed up of the work bricks that you can you know like you know you know what I'm not saying they are but if they have to not want. To be a 2nd a people's vote which is different from a general election if the people's vote is for people that decide no we don't want breaks anymore what happens to the people who voted 2 years ago and then they go to Furious hang on a 2nd. Brushy hates it when I say this has to remind him that 28 percent of the population actually voted for BRACKS It will move on from that mine a statistical point or. I can say chiles that folks want it settled they're not happy what did you know that it would Democrats did actually a spot poll down in the How to reach you said to see what Saturdays I got I missed that one well repechage can tell you what they said tell me well it was interesting a lot of people actually didn't like what how it was going but neither did they want to people's vote but the people who did want to people's vote outnumbered the ones that didn't anyhow and we spent 4 hours down there in not just Bill or didn't have a view on this we had a referendum 2 years ago Bill and I should imagine if there is something else then down the law and the people who voted to leave might be a little bit upset if I can put it that way mildly if somehow they all know they would not get what you voted for you get something else 2 years ago there was a genuine question and it was generally more not been born 28 percent of the people but it was still emerge or 2 of those that voted. To go back and say we're not sure you made the right decision have another one doesn't give the public and in creating whatsoever they voted Democratic like. I've got to say I voted to remain but as soon as the answer was there I'm democratic I go with what the people won't and I will continue or that always voted for was to stay or go I saw as the G.M.B. Have stated normally when you go into a negotiation you negotiate what you think is going to be the deal 1st and then you go to the people to say Do you agree with it we did it they were for the wrong way round we said Do you agree with waltz in and out it's not actually a negotiation and pretty clear it was legal. It wasn't really that clear from my perspective it was a very narrow margin but it's a yes no questions they have to go with the ultimate outcome of it thank you but I think I think Linda's right the question I asked very few literally in my opinion at the wrong time to appease divisions within his own party by David Cameron. Was do you want to stay in or do you want to get out the majority of the people that chose to vote that day voted to get out but nobody actually knew what getting out looked like and I think given now we're getting these begun to cations that will close to my exit ing and we still don't really know what getting out looks like and it might be quite a bad thing I hear what people are saying about when the cooling for this people's fight. Coming. For National 3 weeks to get my opinion because it wasn't an opinion. After because they reported very for one dimension and I'm going to mention because. Let me come back with Bill with Elizabeth with retail trying to sell Texas well you can take the 33 start. Traveling. 3 Counties radio. From junction. Following an accident. But still. A long stretch. Following an accident. And that was following an accident. From nationally. Because. It's very busy on the A full 13. Going towards. The $810.00 that stops. Between 10 fit. And on the trains. Because of a full on a train. I am lost for humanity more than just me. With a shake the baby's head because the baby said it a little bit plasticine a lot going on. So when you have. To make a call there's a person you. Think they're human you know for that. Matter humans of man. Know the man to think. That he could just get this right the kids think the man is a man. Again and they don't think the humans cannot be more creative and I'm not really that sounds like a rubbish monkey still at your Saturdays of May This my son's a day breakfast with 10 we and me and Korea on D.V.C. 3 counties Radio 90 minutes past 6 we have the conservative Bill Chappell we have for late by Liz but then it's liberal Democrat Rita Egan joining us in the studio tonight so the conference has finished finished yesterday but the conservative Conversely I think is the country ready for radical government or could the wide electorate be fearful perhaps of what he might actually do to recoup and has delivered his keynote speech at the party's conference a liberal he's promised to sweep away the greed is good culture that caused the crash in 2008 and he set out radical plans what he calls radical plans to transform Britain and kickstart a green jobs revolution 400000 green jobs coming our way apparently I spoke to the US but John McDonnell on Monday was brought into this week to show to transport secretary and to McDonald's. The Transport Secretary showed translators quite interesting Rita has also met rail nationalisation the Labor party plan for it not nationalization and he said it won't cost anything. Shut up or not also because if you just take back French I think. Cost neutral to that reverently No no you said that well yes but I mean there's a life for you. That's a very interesting religious law isn't it costs nothing up until that point at which we need to bring it back in-house it's deferred and go. For the so retarded that you generally call it a delivered his speech is on speech better than he normally does he's getting perhaps I'm having this but is the current is middling and ready for a journey called in government as he says it is or some people in Italy would be concerned about the prospect of a journey Corban and crew the list was interesting read but I don't today again today because it was in the papers the the promises made and my concern like a lot of other people is what they pay for it because I'm sure they've tried to call state but they cost but they the way that is going to be paid for it's mostly by taxing corporations and the rich Well good luck you know people been trying to do that for a very long time I can't fault the least it's a wonderful list you know the of what the country could look like it's all nice things actually but one has to pay for it and I just I would be very concerned about that. Realisation Yes the reviewing record speech and I suggested to one listener called in that perhaps this is true to form the idea of being the labor a Labor government comes in spends money they haven't got and then a couple years later a Conservative government comes in and tries to rebalance the books and then it goes back to Labor government they spend more money at it and it just it's a cycle of the same cycle over and over again well I do think all this to austerity is inevitable and I do think you can actually borrow because you can get it get it back throughout the manes you know Hari employment hogtied jobs that kind of things that it's not you know have a tipple but I do think you have to be very very cautious. About promising the earth when people are going to be quite cynical about how that's going to be paid for I mean just raising the minimum wage site attempts pounds a very basic thing right that will cost not sleep for change and great in the Great in the short term but tricky down the road and I absolutely agree with you politics is cyclical he says he's ready for Government his party or the government in the region do you think they are all no because the party is not a cohesive party and there are massive disagreements between them in relation to pretty much everything that's on that piece of paper so no it would be a 1000000 cars out of the going to get elected so that's beside the point I really you know that the numbers aren't there. But I'm just sharing with you that I don't believe they were on your end of that Bill Chappell of your party goes to conference that this could be a tell you know what will happen conference off come from little ball is going to say what what great Jimmy's going to come up with this time of course but. Juridical been saying he's party is ready for Government He's Middle England because I know it's got a big following of course a lot of students love him but is Middle England ready for Germany Corben government don't just middle England it's a war of England and you kno