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Welcome to Monday's J.B.S. Show I'm Jonathan Vernon straight today on the big 5. For hates the idea of a germy Corbin Labor Government gift to reason May's bricks and plan is voted down tomorrow Jeremy Colwyn has suggested he's ready to stand P. And to form a minority government and to negotiate a better BRICS it from Britain he says it's inevitable the deal will be voted down as it's so unpopular but what action he would take he says well he's going to keep his powder dry until Wednesday he also suggested this weekend that if we were to have another referendum remaining in the E.U. Should be on the ballot paper this morning I'm very interested to hear your views to love or hate the idea of a Jeremy Corbin Labor government Here's the telephone number of your call it's. Like double. This is the J.D.S. Shares on B.B.C. 3 Counties radio here for you in just a 2nd but 1st the latest B.B.C. News that on a Clarke Here's a new new winter timetable is being introduced on going via train lines running through the 3 counties this morning the company's hoping to avoid the huge disruption caused back in May when a new timetable resulted in thousands of passengers facing delays and cancellations but Emily catchin from Harpenden commuters group says the company still needs to do better when you cut trains and then you reintroduce them that's going to do. Trying to get us back to trying to make timetable but even then they are failing they have cut our services on the weekend from 8 to 2 an hour they're not delivering the form a timetable which was the commitment given a man from Luton accused of a terror attack outside the gates of Buckingham Palace is due to stand trial at the Old Bailey today 27 year old driver has seen a child rape is accused of attacking police officers with a samurai sword in August last year the government's continuing to insist that tomorrow's Coburn's vote on Teresa Mayes bricks. Deal will go ahead as planned despite significant opposition to it from our own backbench M.P.'s The Labor M.P. Sarah Jones says Mrs May must press ahead with the vote or face the consequences if she was to poll this vote having marched us all up the mountain and got to this point and then said oh no sorry I didn't mean it I think that would be quite catastrophic for her personally and for her government developers Taylor Wimpey say they're still committed to finishing a housing estate installed fould mall the 9 years after people 1st moved in the issue was highlighted on B.B.C. 3 Counties radio a year ago and while progress has been made some roads still haven't been tarmacs these residents say they've had enough I didn't realise it was like this when I'd done my exchange and then people were telling me there is free market is I wish I'd never met. Which one is that we want finished we've got enough the U.K.'s biggest Chris manufacturer Walkers' has launched a scheme to recycle used packets following a public backlash against plastic waste around 200 collection points have been set up around the country while people can register to post back empty packets for free in special envelopes Stephen Clarke is from Terra Cycle which is running the scheme we shred it then we wash it we dry and then we either turn it into flakes or into into pellets they can be turned into a sort of outdoor furniture that's very weather resistant like picnic tables park benches you can go into fence post secure going to garden paving a whole host of things really the football manager Harry Redknapp has been crowned King of the jungle on the I.T.V. Show I'm a celebrity and actress Emily atack from amps ill came 2nd in sport Ronnie O'Sullivan has won the U.K. Sneaker championship for a wreck all 7th time and the weather will be chilly but bright the Smalling turning cloudy at the South after noon temperatures around 9 degrees Celsius that's $48.00 degrees Fahrenheit and you get the latest news and sport online a B B C dot co dot cheek a slash 3. P.C. Tease me. Through. It's. From NEW DAY It's. Now it's. On B.B.C. 3 Counties radio Yes good morning welcome to the start of a new week coming up today as. A young children. More than ever we'll hear your stories the Royal Mile reveals Christmas card sending now begins in October. Do you think they're lovely gesture or a big waste of time not to mention the 11 of course I'll deal with your consumer problems but 1st. The idea of a Jeremy in Labor government if to resume class is voted down tomorrow Jeremy Goldman has suggested he is stamping to form a minority government and to negotiate a better for Britain. He says it's inevitable the deal will be voted down as it's so unpopular but one option would he take well he says he's keeping his pound of drive for the time being a very very important vote she's come back with what she says is her best deal I think the chance to vote we will absolutely vote against this I want this deal defeated and that is our priority and that's what we will take tactical decisions off of that Jeremy COLVIN speaking this weekend while he also suggested that if we were to have another referendum remaining in the E.U. Should be on the ballot. I'm really interested to hear your thoughts on the week this is about to be anything could happen this week. However you tend to. Say I'm really interested to hear from you this morning do you love or hate the idea of a Jeremy Corbin Labor Government being something that comes out of this week is the . One that. You can text as. Well with your thoughts almost 813 doubles 3 you start your check to Tracy on takes a charge that standard network great you can e-mail me here at the B.B.C. J.B.S. Show at B.B.C. Dot co dot U.K. Do you love or hate the idea of a Jeremy COLVIN Labor government. On today's big fine in 080-8100 double 8 double 0. And B.B.C. 3 Counties radio Pamela he's an active member of the Labor party she supports Jeremy Corbyn and the Jews for Jeremy group Good morning to you Pam Good morning well I would imagine then you'd love the idea of Jeremy Colby in Labor government coming out this week yes well worked out yes. I mean socialist government to my mind my sort of definition of socialism is caring about other people if you actually mean it. And we have so much so much going wrong in this country from the school to the hospital to the transport to knife crime except except except for most of. My opinion and we have a great many. Things we saw in the last manifesto which nearly needed. Any I mean obviously the bit that negotiations on a big mess that defend the other day that I thought it was like being in Hampton Court made but somebody had closed up the entrance so. Quite where it goes to I don't know well I mean you're right a Labor government well. I was going to say regarding the situation we're in with bricks it and the fact that it does appear like we're in a bit of a maze I mean there are lots of people I'm sure listening to this program agree with you but can I just say and your office he talking turn to leafy largely middle class Bedford chair in Buckinghamshire. I'm largely middle class Sure OK so 3 counties that during the Tony Blair years we did have a a spattering of of Labor M.P.'s now we have very few and I've spoken to a lot of people over the last couple of years and I've spoken to a lot of people recently people of all kinds of backgrounds people who vote remain people who voted to leave and I'm not sure I've heard a single person say that the one thing they really hope is going to come out of all of this is a Jeremy Corbyn government in fact people have been saying to me Oh God we're going to end up with coal been in power next people seem very concerned about the idea yes I think that's true I mean this doesn't obviously apply so. It did we wouldn't have though nearly made it into government at the last election I think I'm a normal amount has been put forward of scaremongering a lot of people talk about that with it but scaremongering in terms of don't recall been under McDonnell quite well people think they're going to do I never get to hear you know they don't trust in people these are they don't try to I'm telling you people a lot of people listening to my program they don't trust Jeremy Corbyn they think Jeremy Corbyn when he gets his hands on power if he gets his hands on power he will make life very difficult for middle England that's what people are worried by Yes I think that I think that's true but what I find it really hard to attain is actually what they are. think very specifically what do they thank a labor government is going to do that's going to May live hard so middle england apart from putting up taxes the people who could well afford to pay a bit mall wealth or what so that it well it about well we're not would you not i mean it would you not be should tell you some of the concerns that people that said to me definitely so people have said to me of course have jeremy call been gets empower the stock market will absolutely tank because the financial markets will have no confidence in him and he's kind of government so the stock market will absolutely plum it to me when the stock market plummets that means people's pensions people's savings people's confidence in the country will start to plumb it and they're very concerned that it a time when already we have the some people are dog you to cloud of bricks it hanging over in terms of uncertainty in this country to chuck jeremy call been into the mix as well would be disastrous and yeah i mean that's a sauce a circular argument isn't it it's those of like it's going to be bad because people will think it going to be bad and there for the stock market will plummet So we need to convince people that you must admit it but you must admit I mean John McDonnell has even spoken in the Paul step out there being a run on the pound if Jeremy Corbin were to be elected there are a lot of people including members of the Labor Party who feel the markets would be tremendously spooked by the prospect of Corbat that's hardly surprising because of the amount of totally. ALEISHA attacks that have been in the media so people don't need to worry when people donate to Ari. I don't know I mean there would be a worry if there is a run on the on the pound but then you can say on the positive side is that the Labor leadership is not stupid they beat the press like anybody else they have knowledge of the market like anybody else they are already preparing what they want has but don't they want OS to be a socialist country yes but what you can see both of the socialist country want exactly what your problem where it doesn't it doesn't really matter doesn't really matter what my view is does it but there were not some people listening to this program who will say that a socialist country is completely not what we are at the moment which would mean a massive change economically for this country and again into the mix at the same time that we've got bricks going on and you've got the potential for an absolute catastrophe. Thank you much I wouldn't call it a catastrophe now because I don't use that sort of language easily but we've got a sort of. Minding misery for a lot of people and problems with a lot of people in terms of insecurity of jobs in terms of insecurity of housing people not knowing when they're going to be made homeless because maybe their rents will go up and they can't afford them is that it's it's like a. Misery now rather than one big catastrophe but it's a. It's because people have a totally. Hyped up idea of oh my god those little well those little about socialism is about getting everybody if. Not more about that chant giving everybody a decent life everybody that you can possibly manage it for so I think. So just to conclude them Pam if one thing comes out of this week if it ever ends up being a change of government and Jeremy Corbyn leading the country you'd feel this has been a successful week. Without them there's no evidence no of me to have a poisoned chalice because you know that they're going to up considerably up the country whichever way you do but in terms of corporate and government I would be walking on air really OK Pam thank you very much indeed on this if my listeners agree with you Pam Lawrence is an active member of the Labor Party she supports Jeremy Corbyn and the Jews for Jeremy group as you just heard what comes out of this week is a Jeremy Corbyn Labor government should be walking on air would you also be walking on a Kevin in Boerum would text to say Hi J B S My politics leans towards labor more than conservative but I would never vote for Labor with Corbin in charge security wise he's dangerous Ben says morning Jonathan I don't want Corbin and he's Marxist Muppets to take charge we would have how mass welcomed with open arms Israel would be cost of the wolves and all and serving British soldiers would be charged with murder moving to Venezuela would seem like a good idea as has been. Not at all being dramatic This person says Jeremy Corbyn is an absolute disaster the late B.P. Labor Party brought us to the current financial situation where we now have to have austerity to get the balance right core being cannot make any decisions he supports terrorists sympathising organizations and he's a did the ring fence sitter says anonymous thank you not a lot of love coming in. Jeremy Corbin from you so follow see if that changes Jerry Hayes is a barrister and a former Conservative M.P. How would you Jerry Good RINGBACK morning morning I'm surprised about your callers reaction to that I thought they were rather moderate. Right so you think you'd be disastrous do you I think he would be disastrous actually I mean when I was in the House of Commons from 83 to 97 this sounds really ridiculous now but I have a lot of good friends who were members of labor party Labor M.P.'s and as some of you of course if I said Look I've been Labor all my life feels they can't possibly support Jeremy Corbyn and he had bunch of people to support how much they do support ready the IRA I mean just I mean I loved a couple of friends one couple of friends in the bombing at Brighton in 1800 for 3 weeks afterwards Gerry Corbin brings members of Shin Fein is the House of Commons you know he's back in the old days of the sixty's seventy's and I suppose the eighty's communists and people are scared of that if you're going to win an election you win an election from the center ground if you're a Tory from the slightly right of center if you labor like Tony Blair won 3 elections who they demonized slightly to the left before moderation and people want to feel safe if they're afraid of politicians they're not going to vote for them and the moment I say could change their phrase but generally call them and momentum and he sort of Labor party but you may be right but you all remain because we've spoken before. And you do not like where we're heading with bricks I know they saw follow you on Twitter I see your tweets and your your thumb really depressed by the direction we're heading as a country now there are not some people who will cling to the IDEA who are in agreement with you that potentially Jeremy cool been Dinshaw which would mean no bricks at a toll or if we did have a bricks. It it would be a very very mild brick we'd still probably remain in the single market the Customs Union would be very closely tied to the European Union we wouldn't feel much change toll and I guess that maybe some people think well you know we could put up with 4 years of Jeremy Corbett even if he did cause some problems during that time because we can always vote in 4 years time but if he stops breaks it and it's worth it well now there is a conundrum because most Labor supporters would remain as I did. By Jeremy Corbett I've known him since 83 when we're both elected and always voted against Europe and in fact socialists tend to be against him so the surface in this country because it means they can't subsidize failing nationalize industries so the fact of the matter is and if gas prices old ideas of the T.V. Debate you know had to raise him a saying yes we must deliver the bricks and she is a remain and you go gently call me saying no they deliver the remaking of the brakes it is so it's a complete contradiction in terms busy the whole saying but it goes back to fair and you know although you're right in saying that I am or may not but I do respect the view of the election a referendum and I don't think there should be another referendum on it's going to have to sort it out parliament is actually have to take some responsibility for the actions you know how's that going to happen because I'm looking at you know major I mean for gosh they can be director general of B.B.C. If you want they don't want that job but if you don't read out what are we just don't know what this is the thing is that I mean we're all looking at what he's going all in the country split the M. Pays a completely. Has tried to get this deal she says it's the best deal we're ever going to get on the table but it's very likely to get through We've got coal being saying oh don't worry we'll take over I mean we the British public are looking at all of this unfold in front of us and thinking What the hell's going to happen this weekend. It's not just the British public's not just us as members of parliament they just do not know the reality I think I think it is relatively straightforward the how you get through the reality into something substantive I don't know they're out at sea is there is anyone on the table we can talk about Norway Plus Will plus possible Canadian Canada plus will Plus what they know and say what they really are not any one thing which all 27 have agreed and that is Teresa Mayes agreement it is in agreement. What you do with the Irish backstop and there seems to be I don't know. Perry's a bit of movement going on because it was reported in the late night news by I was just not that there had been a conversation between Donald Tusk who's chairman of the council happened yesterday morning are missing one of the obs Sorry but the papers weren't really full of it today there's only one tusk what was more important she was also speaking to the T.-Shirt of all and now those 2 people why would she specifically talk to them there might be some sort of extra deal between what we would say bilaterally in other words there's a deal which will stop a backstop between the U.K. And now I think this is probably going to be the way out I suspect we'll start hearing about it tonight the number 10 machine will start working in ready for the vote tomorrow I may be hopelessly Were you think she's going to pull a rabbit out of the bag out of the rubble I think general whenever she pulls a rabbit. On the right. Of a rabbit it's merely a rabbit because it seems to me that the 3 cane we're seeing an interesting and interesting alternative prospect to rise on both sides we have Boris Johnson appearing on Andrew mull over the new head caught that was supposed to not you know we're supposed to not know she said suddenly that he's had a cow and it looks more sensible than it's ever. Look to befall he's appearing in a statesman like way on Andrew Mohl suggesting that there's no wire course he's about to challenge to reason why as if we're almost you. Got Jeremy Colbert in being quite open about the prospect of him saying I'm planning to take on Wednesday and to form a minority government it would be of no use all the 2 alternatives to Theresa May Yes And then then I'm 40 Amber right he's normally quite sensible suddenly says Oh no way is plausible or the way is unpleasant just for people listeners who are not quite sure Norway is after which is the European Economic Area and it is Norway Liechtenstein in a couple of other countries and they should remain in the single market but they have to pay for that. They don't take any part in re

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