Of our trade for a considerable time I think we all know trade deals take time to negotiate that time is measured in years rather than in months meanwhile the home secretary Jarvis revealed the government won't set a specific target for immigration levels after Bret's it under the new system a person skills rather than their nationality will be prioritised the British drugs giant Glaxo Smith Kline which has bases in half a chair is to merge its Consumer Health Care Division with that of the U.S. Company Pfizer Glaxo operation include sides in Steve Nugent where the chief executive says there will be an impact on staff but it's too early to give details more from Katie Prescott this is a marriage of a power couple the consumer arm of the U.K.'s biggest drug maker is teaming up with its American equivalent joining a stable of over the counter products from Nicorette uncensored on to Advil and Centrum the creation of this new business is about saving money roughly 500000000 pounds over the next 3 years but it's also about G.E.'s case plans to strengthen its now separate pharmaceutical business G S K will hold the controlling stake in the joint venture of 68 percent and their chief executive and the woman will chair the new business which will be listed in the U.K. Police in Welling Garden City repealing the witnesses after a 19 year old man suffered a bleed on the brain following a fight outside a pub in the early hours of Saturday morning it happened outside the 2 willows pub in Howard's gate just before 3 15 am The 20 year old man from Stephen it has been arrested Lewis Hamilton was taken to social media to explain his comments that Sunday night Sports Personality of the year when the F one world champion from Stephen age described getting out of the slums it's led to criticism from politicians and residents in the town but in an Instagram post overnight Hamilton says he chose the wrong words somewhere I'm incredibly proud of coming for still love to this day so please if you get into any feelings about a mistake that I made on stage don't bother with threats as. 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I'm a big phony does the prospect of a no deal break to excite or terrify we've learned this morning that the cabinet is ramping up plans for a no deal breaker 2000000000 pounds has now been put aside in case the U.K. Leaves without a deal on the 29th of March and 3 and a half 1000 Army troops have been put on standby to help government departments Coast business groups have told the B.B.C. They're now watching on in horror stories a mayor has made it very clear in Parliament a no deal bricked it would not be a good deal for Britain if you want to leave without a deal be upfront that in the short term this would call significant economic damage to parts of our country who can least afford to bear the burden I do not believe that any of those courses of action command a majority in this house but notwithstanding that fact for as long as we fail to agree a deal the risk of an accidental no deal increases well this morning I'm very interested to hear your thoughts on this latest development in the BRICs it still. Just the prospect of a new deal breaks it excite terrifying Here's the telephone number for your call is our right one. You can text as well with your thoughts on 823 double 3 Start your text 3 techs and charge the standard network rate you can e-mail me here at the J.V. Airshow at B.B.C. Dot co dot U.K. Does the prospect of a no deal bricks excite or terrify you say on today's big phone in 08081 double 8 Double 0 the. B.B.C. 3 Counties radio. He's the head of European Policy at the freight transport association Good morning to you Pauline morning good morning so we now understand the government is seriously preparing for a no deal breaks it spending billions of pounds on the prospects of no deal bricks it does that excite or terrify you Pauline. Vamos not seem to be excited about I wouldn't say that we're terrified either that or. The prospect of what additional calls. A. Potential significant restrictions transport. To immigration. So frankly nothing too big. For that whatever thing that knowing what we know now you just have to look at. From the government. Very reckless. What is the problem there can you just explain to people listening to this program what your concerns all for the Transport Association and your members. The concerns are that we know there are going to be many more requirements of a minister to storm the field even if it's electronic so costly and there will be a need for investments in software assuming the government has a bases. There will be you know like a Kerry will never again regrettably geishas. The border delays and that pretty self-explanatory obviously disrupt the and change it means that become very unpredictable it's quite difficult and companies to know how long it's going to take so they're going to be transported I saw yesterday on the news they were looking at one particular company that deals with customs checks and it was very interesting he showed a huge great big pile of paperwork you know the kind of equivalent of paperwork that you'd find in pages in the Bible and that was the paperwork that is required for every single lorry that passes through the day to Cali border that he's coming from a country that is outside of the U. And each of those lorries takes 20 minutes to then check over that paperwork with the the driver of the lorry. And he was asked the question if if we leave without a deal you will have to then have the same amount of paperwork and the same checks for every single lorry that passes through this border he said yes and when he was asked the question could you cope with that he said no now if he says they cannot cope with that paperwork what will happen to those borders where lorries are crossing polling. Well 1st of all some products they won't be able to you were talking of the Kelly crossing or talk about all those trades only in your tunnel in that there are. Reasons to Believe. Preps wouldn't be possible to go through these very important for products like a greasy foods exports because we will have to answer the use rejuvenated point when you talk about you know what they call the plantation. And the despair to remind everyone. That just an extra 2 minutes there Lorrie 2 minutes not 20 would create good 17 know and the government is taking them very seriously because they are developing traffic management plans and trying to encourage companies to let you vote polling thank you very much polling basters on is the head of European Policy at the freight transport association what was interesting when I watched on the news last night this particular man who is involved in checking the paperwork of various lorries he's company does the customs checks of these lorries he said that they wouldn't be able to do it in the event of no deal for every single lorry so he said what it will ultimately mean is that at the border we will just have to let the lorries come through without checking them at all and then we will then have to as a nation deal with the potential problems that could arise from that because of course once word gets out that the U.K.'s borders are not being checked that lorries are not being checked that could potentially cause problems it could potentially mean that things are being smuggled into the country that shouldn't be smuggled into the country and people could potentially come into the country that shouldn't be coming to the country that's the concern. What does that does the prospect of a no deal does it concern you I mean Paula I'm saying she's not terrified but she's very concerned are you. Concern don't you think no we don't have to be worried by any news this it would be absolutely fine Peter Kandel He's a farmer in Bedford chair and past president of the National Farmers Union Good morning to you Peter Hi Good morning morning so what about the prospect of no deal for you Does it excite you want terrify you it terrifies me on a number of levels a farmer and a business person I keep chickens around in our farm as well with my brother 80 percent of the vaccines to treat our animals come from Europe a massive supply of all fertilizer and chemicals my crops could starve and get disease but my animals to see them if I was unable to get the right medicines to treat them would be devastating it would say terrify me to see that sort of impact the other consequences are of thinkers somebody who's involved in the food industry the prospects we get our food security today by and large we're being part of the European Union 73 percent of our food imports comes from Europe today Russia is the biggest exporter of wheat I don't think I'd want to trust President Putin to be feeding me China holds half the width stocks in the world so if we lose that relationship with Europe if we start putting checks as your previous speaker was saying on imports of listen to the big retailers talking to government and they believe it will be food shortages very quickly indeed it's not only the boat the food that's got to come into the country it's the fact that we've also to get lorries back out again people predict that within 3 or 4 days we will have semi mobile warehouses with food not getting onto supermarket shelves in time the last point I'm really distressed about is I actually believe no deal will lead to the breakup of the United Kingdom it will in fact sickly mean a hard border in northern Ireland it will open up all those souls again. And I think you will see Scotland so concerned by the prospects of a no deal it will impact on the whole structure of United Kingdom so on 3 levels I'm very very concerned about but line where you must actually be heading but B.G. Must be aware there are lots of farmers that Breck sage. Yeah look and I spend a lot of time talking to them and I'm not arguing for not having breakfast now and arguing against the no deal I think they Norway option would be my preferred way out of the NO WAY do but in Norway option doesn't fulfill any of the promises that were made in the referendum because if we had a Norway deal we still have free movement of people we're still under the jurisdiction of the European court something we don't get any positive. We still paid and yet we don't have any seats at the table so why don't you want that what I what I do want to create that common market that we joined up in 19 people voted to leave that they voted to leave I think the political establishment of the European Union and we have looked at this is this is a debate we could have for a long period of time the no deal whether whether it's through the maze whether it's a Norway deal. That would both be preferable in fact sickly than no daily must do everything we can politicians need to realize us the. Mid-ocean it indoors has been saying there's nothing to fear by this she needs to get out and talk to the pharmacist to people running businesses to retailers this will cause disruption on a scale we've never seen before we spent 45 years developing just in time supply chains and whatever happened recently that isn't this true late isn't a lot of this to the people who voted Firstly the you people were told about the the risks and people from many people just ignored those those warnings and said it was Project FIA now we are where we all if it ends up putting farmers like you out of business well isn't that what the British people voted for actually putting I don't think it would put me out of business I think I think food shortages people hoarding food what do you want to do you from PETA I produce cereal. Of course our God got real concerned live there and we trade on W T O rules how have you have you contemplated how that will affect you when we then trading on W T R rules would be forced to allow food cereals such as yours to come in from from far off countries that could probably produce a cereals much cheaper than you can. 40 percent of my chicken has to go via Rotterdam to go out and around the world the dark meat that we don't eat this would be massively disruptive and over time of course it could wipe my business out there I think I think I'm I think hopefully I'll get a plan believe me as a business reason be fleet of foot How are you going to compete for example not OK if we start if we start one second hang on one second if we start trading on W T O rules you are going to be competing for your cereal selling your cereals you're going to be competing in this country alone with a country like Argentina a country that has the U.K. Fit 17 times into the landmass of Argentina Argentina has a climate that he's probably far more conducive to growing mass amounts of cereal and they genetically modify all of their crops so they could you sort of know how you're going to compete with them hold on a 2nd for a big pumpers this is my mastermind subject I spend a lot of time talking about this my risk is the Ukraine for example Russia dumping you know anyone tied in the moment the U.K. Isn't we're on the balancing act between self-sufficient and grain most of my grain goes to local markets in a very short distance they don't want G.M. Products to be going into the baking industry right industry in the U.K. But what there is a real concern that at the moment Ukraine can put 800000 tonnes into you but a very small terrace if we came out into the system you talk about they would then be dumping onto our market if you cause massive volatility I think over time there would be a relationship develop that that would not. I mean that we would be just always trading at the bottom but there are the sectors but over time it must massively to the be massively disadvantage no deal dumping on British agriculture could destroy our industry and I'll tell you one example I could very briefly we destroyed agriculture of the repeal of the Corn Laws and the 846 we went into the 1st World War producing 20 percent of all grain we need the starved we didn't us a lesson we didn't assume we went into the 2nd mobile again not producing enough for food with climate change we mustn't sacrifice prisoners alter OK thank you very much indeed Peter Peter Kendall is a farmer in Bedford chair past president of the National Farmers Union you just have to understand that if we start trading on top of rules and this is not about being politically boss this is just about the way that it works and this is about fact if we start treading on W.T.R. Rolls it means that we have to allow all of those countries that at the moment it's quite expensive to bring bring stuff in from we allow them to export their stuff to us. At the cheapest possible price now that of course means that some of our food produce is going to come from countries that are able to produce it much much cheaper than we can how that's going to then affect British businesses like farms Well you do the math so I see how it one Double Double 0 is the telephone number if you want to have your say you can text as well like 13 double 3 I mentioned to the man who spoke on Channel 4 News last night this was the man who runs a customs clearance Halsey's called Steve Appleby this is the moment he stood above a massive pile of paperwork. I would say about 7 inches thick. And this was one pile that he said was for just one lorry a good example that's a laugh track. That we as far as I know. Well my question to you this morning does the prospect of a no deal breaker excite or terrify you Kerry installment And good morning to you Kerry morning and morning so it's me I hope you'll bear with me I can think of at least 10 reasons. 90 percent of small businesses will be placed because had I bless you a huge bureaucracy all these old people. Have been selfish because so sorry let's take each point of the time Kerry and just prepare to be challenge because I don't allow people just to say things without backing them up on this program can you just tell me what all the bureaucracy you think small businesses won't have to abide by WILL BE Well I had a small business setting. And the amount to be obscene amount of force coming through you would when it was impossible absolutely like Walt and. The rolls on noise regulations you had to comply with 96 they're supposed at 3 meters you fireworks. Tremendously more but that's just one example it was such a high rate so you'll be able to sell much louder fireworks a much louder No I'm just talking about in general small business. You talk about big businesses all the time let me let me tell you that small businesses the majority you will be pleased to be able to if you are up and get rid of a lot the a year bureaucracy. They can we move on to other things I'm so pleased immigration will be able to choose our own immigration and not what they want send over from Europe to us what you mean what they want to send for to you what you want to raise as we voted out of Europe so we could control our own immigration rights and how do you think that's going to go well when we would be out of run our country Jonathan . Does not maintain or we. Around country for a long time Karen So what does that mean we the immigration has been just mass mass immigration also those OK let's look at it what are the immigrants that have come to this country what are they doing Carrie. Well that there's a lot of illegal and there's a lot of NO JUST NO NO NO NO NO NO NO hang on hang on a minute you can't stop bringing illegal immigration into a discussion about perfectly legal immigration so so can you just tell me what the immigrants that you're complaining about what of what are they doing in this country that so bad. We've got straight that you can't walk down anymore because of the crime because we've had the wrong sort of immigration I've been told is African countries are saying these people queuing up but want to come here Africa is not in the. Problem Africa is not in the KERRY No no no no no I know but so what should the which and the immigrants which are the immigrants that you think are coming here and are and are creating all this crime Somalis all sorts someone Sorry. Do you think Somalia is in the you know but they're not answer so why are you talking about Somalian immigration in reference trust leaving the European Union carry because we'll be able to control our immigration we have control over Somalia and immigration now because they're not in the E.U. Now business still coming through and not so many others well you talk about well try Jonathan your pick on yes but can I just take you back to the point because Kerry you've just said something and with the greatest of respect it's just ridiculous what you've just stated you have said that one of the positives of us leaving the European Union is that we'll be able to control immigration to stop people from Somalia not going to do you know Somalia is not in the E.U. We'll be. We'll be able to bring over who way you want for the jobs that we want them to help us with people like that. But who are the who are the immigrants that are in this country that you have a problem with and what are they here doing that makes you feel you have a problem with them t