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Recall it's Roberto Peroni from his day it's. Now it's Jonathan Vernon Smith on B.B.C. 3 Counties radio Yes good morning welcome to choose Day coming up at 11 this morning on the J.B.S. Show I'll deal with your consumer problems and as the juke of Bedford insists dongs must stay on the leave when they're in his words I'll ask if you support him. First though in August of last year Boris Johnson caused controversy by writing in The Telegraph that he didn't like seeing women wearing the full Muslim face veil in this country and that they look like to quote him bank robbers and letter boxes full of Conservative party investigations comments from months later ruled that he hadn't broken any parliamentary rules and he'd face no sanction for this week Mr Johnson has again been asked whether he stands by these comments this was what he had to say having written that piece I received overwhelming support and not just from. Muslims but also Muslim women. You know people say. What they say in that she was. Speaking on L B C Well this morning I'm very interested to hear your thoughts. To stand by his comments. You want to share your thoughts I'd love to hear from you here's the telephone call it's. You can text as well with your thoughts. You can e-mail me here at the B.B.C. J.V. B.B.C. Don't. You think he's right to stand by his comments. a problem and of the later on in this out as the juke of bread for the insists all dogs must be kept own the lead it all times in he's would follow ask if you support his decision to like this sound lot to this kind of policy in i'll the paul x. On other wooded areas as well i'll take your views all my later on how are you tell right juan double double light 1st though i want to discuss the latest episode in the boris johnson burka saga in August of last year boris johnson caused controversy by writing in the telegraph that he didn't like seen women in wearing the full muslim face fail in this country and that they looked like bank robbers and letterboxes the conservative party investigate it is comments a months later ruled but he hadn't actually broken any parliamentary rules and he'd face no sanction for the commons he'd made well this rig mr johnson has again being asked whether he stands by the comments this is what he had to say we having written that piece are receive well mean supports a not just from muslims but also bubble from was in winning agreed with me you know people say oh politician should be kapil what they saying they should wash now words and was a mumbojumbo i think to 3 i don't agree because actually i'm and be very clear when you know i didn't a green with when in being kojo and to wear plaything boris johnson's speaking on l b e c well the smalling ha hutch actually i don't agree with raimi wearing clothing i'm well there was a bit more to it my christ in to year that Do you think Box Jones and he's right to stand by his comments on the burka Here's the telephone number for your call I'm on double double double. Nicky as IMBRA is a former Ukip town counselor from Bedford chair Good morning to you Nicky Good morning Jonathan and Happy New Year Happy New Year to you too Sir Jonathan that I left Ukip with Nigel for Ross he was Ukip So I said forma. Yes so right did I keep my place what's your view on Boris Johnson's comments then on women wearing the burka looking like letter boxes and bank robbers he says he stands by those comments sounds as if he still thinks they are the same way do you agree with him is he right to stand by those comments yes but you know I do love Boris Johnson he's always the man who says what everybody else is thinking and do not have to say it yes he did and by the way I think what is fascinating is that he put into words what a lot of people I think or degree with but where is the tirade of feminists who insist that women rights are not being respected where are they on the fact that these women have to wear veils. In public it's many people and I agree with Boris Johnson This is country is not something that always forces women to wear what they want to try to do and that's what we should stick by so so Nicky at least just break this down a little bit let's work out what the objective of saying something like that and whether saying something like that will achieve the objective Yeah 1st of all do you would you prefer it if Muslim women in the U.K. Did not cover their faces. Yes I was so let's hang on one second let's take it step by step but they're facing up to OK let's just take it step by step so OK i agree so let's say. OK So as a woman if you would doing something if you will wearing something that other people didn't like that other people disagreed with for whatever reason and if the way that those other people expressed their concerns was to in effect be quite rude about you and to say that you look like a bank robber would that make you more or less likely to want to wear that item of clothing. Probably. Less likely to wear it's a gay to be quite so hang on if somebody said you know you can bang on all but you'd be lace likely to wear it boy right but but I put it to you that I don't think you would feel like that I think if somebody insulted the clothing that you were wearing and insulted you knowing you Nicky as I do having spoken to you on this program many telling us you would be more inclined to stick 2 fingers up at them and say I don't care I'm going to wear it because I want to wear it it would have quite the reverse effect on us and I couldn't agree with you more I probably would stick so let's just go back let's keep it always OK but the well hang on as you say those women don't there may well be many women listening to this program who wear the full face veil who have made the decision for themselves now if your ultimate objective is to persuade those women that it doesn't fit in with the culture in the United Kingdom that it makes you feel uncomfortable that you'd really rather they didn't wear 8 again I put to you if you insult them and call them bank robbers and letter boxes are you actually doing anything that is going to help you achieve your objective. You know probably I wouldn't be so graphic but I'd . Already is and he's spoken up for the fact that this is what this country OK So Nikki do you think. Nikki Nikki let's just again go back to basics with this do you think Boris Johnson's comments were designed more for you a woman who doesn't wear the full face veil his comments were designed to please you rather than comments designed to achieve an objective which is to persuade women who wear the face veil that they shouldn't. Well actually no I don't think he was thinking about who was actually pacing really I think with standing up for the politician indicate it isn't part of this country he's a politician politicians always think about who he's hearing their message and the message that they want to get across you know that you're a former politician yourself actually I've been as outspoken as far as so I am going to say that I wish politicians would speak out but if you were a politician at least he's on it for God Yeah but but if you replace the Treasury and if you're a politician that wants to achieve things don't you think about what she want to achieve and don't you then think about the best way to get the message across to the people that needs to hear the message in order to achieve what you want to achieve. I've always made it very clear in every piece of the extent that I had when I stood as a counselor exactly where I stood and if people didn't like it they had the right not to vote for me the whole point is that Ari speaks for an awful lot of people who don't have a voice and if other people don't like it he takes the flack produce and just isn't he just pandering to people who don't like to see the full face veil of which there will be many people who have perfectly justifiable and they would be able to all the reasons behind their their concerns about the full facial veil he's playing to that audience rather than trying to change anything with the comments that he's making no I think you firmly believe that. I think that he is he was courageous enough to say what other politicians are too creepy to say. Really I think it is quite right. Ready that what happened to the phrase when in Rome do as the Romans do listen we are not a country that forces women to cover their faces and that's the way he did it but on we also a country that allows people to wear what they want to weigh and we allow individuals to make those decisions. Well within reason not to be done to prove a streak a size a they might say but a lot you know aman you did so. What the hell are you going on about you know we do have an actual right to say that women in this country should not be forced to wear something that covers their face. Well or it stood up Nikki thank you very much as a former Ukip town council and from Bedford. Is the telephone number if you think Boris Johnson's right to stand by his comments on the Bucha. Political commentator women's March organizers and activists Good morning Josh thanks for coming on thank you don't and learning everybody Boris Johnson has said then he stands by those comments do you think he's wrong to do so yes I pointed in both. His little comments in the summer of 2018. And I spoke to him that many of the people now just took home a mission I do not believe in the face covering I do not believe in the niqab but I respect any woman. He wants whatever he wants even if he defends a lot of people in the country that she lives in. The point you're talking to me just now when the key point Nic you said you could come again of a small minority of people that are offended and weak you take if you take a step back from the front of an amazing country where allowed. To speak. Aloud in the could. Have been strictly a question of how we able to. Live with it within the society but when we have politicians like both Johnson who made comments quite vocal to me he was saying this but I don't know I sure. Can I just pick you out. Can I pick you up on the point you just made you described Nikki as a brain uses you count searches it's a small minority of people that dislike seeing the full facial veil I think you were wrong. A comrade's Channel 4 News poll showed that more than half of the public believe women should not be allowed to wear the niqab in public 55 percent backed an outright ban similar to the one in France so it's not true to say that just a little minority of people don't like seeing a lot of people don't like seeing the full face veil in this country how many people do you think whether the. Small minority. Is very small. I would suggest probably 2 percent. OK. So 6 point. Ride. And. I'm talking 20 per. Cent. I. Agree with it but I respect. Your quite right in pointing out it is a very small number of Muslim when women do cover their faces in this country you're absolutely right but and here is the bot it depends on where you live as to whether or not you are likely to see lots of these women or not so for example if you leave if I was to take you to my hometown of Hope and chances are you would not see a single Muslim woman covering her face in hope and then if I was to drive you 10 minutes up the road into Luton and take you into Berry pong you'd probably see quite a number of women wearing a full face veil now if you are somebody that lives in Luton rather than Harpenden you may well see a lot of women wearing the full face veil and if it makes you feel uncomfortable if it makes you feel worried in your own neighborhood don't you have a perfectly legitimate right to raise those concerns. By relating this concern to the pit his eye you basically have to put in a hypothetical question a person who who has an issue that they want the woman to then remove the niqab so they would see the face of the person they want to. And yes they do but what if the person who's wearing the niqab I mean they don't want to show their face what if they don't want him to why don't they want to show their face a RINGBACK statue he is absolutely they told. Me I'm just going out there wily with a nic whether. It make you or the people comfortable. Talking about a very small minority of women who they feel they're being picked on because of the the sort of every few months that debate in the US is an article a politician next comment so they're very I mean I own I think young girls who read . Them and sometimes a young girl. When I think to them they do you on the task they do still single and they do feel that. Way. So then to not wear the item of clothing that is attracting the I want to detention if this is how they want expressed I wanted to see their religious expression I would live in an amazing country that allows why they're wrong we're not going to get. Their rights to as you say express their religious freedom the religious side of wearing the niqab of course as you will well know he's very debatable why are their rights greater than the rights of other people living in their hometown to see a visual commitment to the existing norms of the society that this culture has come into. I could put that question. To why the lives of people who are getting offended a little a small tiny minority of the women they get. And so you don't believe people have the right someone who. Tell me shit. OK. For example if I for example. Moved to Saudi Arabia and were to walk through the street wearing nothing but a pair of speed eyes would I be disrespectful to the community in south in Saudi Arabia would I be disrespectful should I show more respect by wearing suitable clothing that fits in with the culture in in that country. If you were cool down the high 60 K. Because you know lack of disrespect. To people so I think you have that same. Trying to say. Look when you're the reason you're deflecting as it contradicts the point that you were just making the reality is it would be very disrespectful if I went to Saudi Arabia and wore Speedos walking down the High Street it would also be very disrespectful if I moved to Saudi Arabia and lived there for 10 years and then started walking down the High Street with speedos because it doesn't fit in with the culture of that country that's the argument there are people who don't like to see women covering their faces in this country makes them feel very uncomfortable it makes them feel scared people have a right to say we don't want to see it. People into law on a daily basis I think pointed out that the number of women who wear the niqab just . Comes at the into people. To interact why would why would anybody want to interact with a woman who has covered virtually her entire body apart from her eyes. Showing. You know this kind of we have the right to tell people what I'm saying who is pushing the old stickle to interaction if they do. Not go to them and say you have to interact with Similarly I cannot go to somebody. I want to talk to you talk to me talk to me and chased him a lot it doesn't look like this and if you're going to feel offended if you don't feel well you know what try to see it from the perspective that they're going to live decide in the clothing but then that's a doing something that expresses the safe thing to me Try going up to somebody who has an incumbent high saying hello and chances are you will get a hello about can you get a pleasant interaction but this kind of thing somebody else who looks a little bit distant who was something different. From coming for a listening woman's perspective I'm coming from the daughter of immigrants perspective as well because as far as we were concerned with weekend Kate this was a RINGBACK welcoming welcoming country and a possible war to mine incident. Never felt anything but being a local I want to thank you very much for your time very interesting speaking to you I shall economists political commentator women's March organizer and activist if you want to share your thoughts. Morning wake up bright and early. Nothing happens and then we have taken ships Yes. Ready and we gave it to my girlfriend and she said it was for I could. Be morning wake up . Time you translate into the tunnel. In your family and then me. Bring your. Because of it. Every weekday morning from say well sure that our folks say as I don't need people like you and I that I agree. With an easy one I mean entertainment that you need to bring it up for you. For it where it will be the cartel appreciate it. 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With the headlines I'm Simon Oxley Marks and Spencer has just announced plans to close its stores in Bedford and Luton town centers with the loss of over $140.00 jobs this morning's announcement is the latest part of a nationwide restructuring program pays will vote later on a deal which sets out the terms of Britain's departure from the European Union Government sources have dismissed reports that the reason I could resign if her deals rejected Labor's expected to table a motion of no confidence if the agreements voted down staff have been threatened with a gun joining an armed robbery at a Bedford bookmakers on Sunday night it happened just after 8 pm at coral on Castle Road when a man demanded money from the tills on the safe he made off with over $600.00 pounds towards how brave straight and the inquest begins this morning into the death of an inmate it would heal prison in Milton Keynes 23 year old Ron Harvey was found hanged in his cell in May 2015 he died 5 days later in hospital the weather a mixture of cloud and sunny intervals but staying dry a maximum temperature 10 degrees Celsius those are the headlines the next 4 bulletin is at and on F.M. AM digital and online this is the J.B.S. Show on B.B.C. 3 Counties radio Yes good morning still to come at 11 I'll deal with your consumer problems also discuss the Duke of Bedford who's insisting dogs must stay on the lead when they're being walked through his woods but 1st we've been talking about Boris Johnson's Commons about about the Birkenau in August of last year you may recall he caused controversy. By rushing in the Telegraph that he didn't like