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Woman that was known is the 1st black woman on television in the United States indeed her series came over and I remember as a young boy watching it was amazing to masing Actually it was the 1st black woman to have her own sitcom I didn't know these things at the time I was just a young man which is amazing series in the United States and it was a series that the lead protagonist was a black woman a single mother and her family we'd never seen that before in television like going back sort of 40 years or perhaps 50 years or so. Yeah cos I didn't realize I was an old but dying Carol has died to later audience she was known as and forgive the language this is genuinely as they referred to in Hollywood the 1st. Let me spell it out to be. Asterisk's t.c.h. Of television I'm saying that way because she was Indian as to the opposite said Joan Collins. Or Joan Collins or was the fam for towels let's put it that way there's a better way of putting it and we will talk about dying Carol later on 1st the British prime minister Boris Johnson has again insisted there can be no further proponent of breaks it which is due to take place at the end of this month he tweeted the message New Deal or No Deal but no delay he made the assertion despite the government handing in documents to a court in Scotland saying that it will ask the e.u. For an extension to the Bracks it deadline if there's no deal by the 19th of October and this comes as the European Commission says the proposals put forward by Mr Johnson to break the deadlock in banks in negotiations do not provide the basis for concluding an agreement earlier I spoke to Kate Ironside who's a former political journalist is now a senior lecturer in journalism at the University of North them to and I asked her if she couldn't lie to us as to what's going to happen on October 31st Ok extremely blunt no because it is confusing you have that written undertaken given to the Scottish court that was revealed on Friday that concrete to everything he has said the prime minister would write a letter to the European Union if he hasn't got a deal by the 90 Toba all skiing for an extension but at the same time you have the prime minister standing up. And saying. You know we are leaving on the 31st of October we will brook no delay it will be Deal or No Deal both things cannot be true hence the computer Jim. Everybody is confused at the highest levels of government the e.u. Is computerized. It doesn't add up both cannot be true however get back to what we do know for sure we do know that the u.k. Government has lost tabled some proposals we do know that the European Union is looking at those proposals with a deep intake of breath we know that the Irish government has severe weather vacations about them the law is clear hood of Boris Johnson's proposals being accepted by the e.u. Looks slim and yet they do not want to be blamed for any new deal scenario what you might have is the European Union turning around saying hey look this is a start let's give you an extension we could talk about it further. And then the interesting question is would Boris Johnson except that extension and that we don't know even if. I mean under one scenario you could say well maybe from the European Union's perspective and particularly from the r.h. Perspective when that backs are against the war the prospect of a chaotic deal would be damaging it could be devastating to the e.u. The u.k. But it would still be damaging for the e.u. Particularly for all and maybe the Boris Johnson alternative is a slightly less would outcome so if the u.k. Is going to go anyway maybe better slightly better that way this is in the sense almost Boris Johnson's dream scenario so they then agree the e.u. Agrees to it at the summit on something to the 18th of October he returns to Westminster in triumph and gets parliament to pass it we leave on the 31st of all and he them plans away that general election and high her alternatively more likely if the e.u. Says in a nice try maybe there's something we can talk about why don't we have an extension . We get to the 19th of October no deal is required Boris Johnson is then required and has given up taking to the Scottish court to want a letter to the e.u. Saying. I too want an extension of the e.u. So yes what we've offered you an extension of course the interesting thing is there's nothing in the in the bin Act were quarreling Boris Johnson to offer an extension there's nothing that says he has to accept it. But even if we have an extension. Then Boris Johnson can turn round and say to parliament this is ridiculous let's have a general election Jeremy Corbin The Labor leader has repeatedly said that he would consider a general election once there was an extension once no deal was at least temporarily off the table in which case so we will then get a general election or go into the general election saying listen I'm battling Boris I've done my best on trying to deliver Bracks it on the foiled by Parliament of the e.u. From a give me a majority of will ram this through once and for who or let's get Bracks it done I mean you can hear him saying it right now indeed he's been saying pretty much little else that might be one way it would pan out. Other interesting factors is supposing he does make headway with these proposals and these proposals would take the u.k. Out of the Customs Union but leave all the law. In the single market for goods a baying for the tree requirements putting a border down the arbor see something do you pay. On the jury to my. Clay opposed. But they were you know they pulled the plug on treason by repeatedly every time she contemplated but now under Boris Johnson it is apparently Ok all right fine but the Boris Johnson plan would involve some form of customs checks in Northern Ireland as that. Is a complete. Pull back from what to reason may have been offering to reason my pledge knowing full of hob organo full checks this is now saying we're going to have we're going to put back a customs border there will have to be checks we will make them as minimal as possible but even if you say there is no checks at the border. You still need customs offices somewhere doing checks somewhere and those customs offices could then become vulnerable to attack from nationalist dissidents which point those customs offices will need protection so you don't have to bring all the police to night and have to bring on the army and we will be sliding back to the troubles in the troubles you know the member the guns in Northern Ireland have never gone away. They are still there they are still operating in plain sight you only need to think back to east. Of La Ricky that young journalist shot by accident by the new on your way during. Derry and there were posters up in Derry warning the local populace not to talk to the police about the murder of law Remicade saying we know who you are you don't you talk you go you know when the police Lea we will still be here. Neither the police know the local authorities have the gumption to take those notices down that just underlines the power of the member with the guns still in all in all it give them an excuse bring back some 4 border checks and we will be back on the slippery slope back to the Vaal and switch to Good Friday Agreement which is probably one of the greatest political achievements. Certainly I think in a white political life time for storing pace that would be seriously at risk we understand. In then you mentioned the Benedict that is the legal obstacle that the government either has to comply with or navigate its way yes the yes the then Act It requires Boris Johnson to ask for an extension if he hasn't got a deal by the 19th of October Is there any way around it. Oh well this is the interesting question I mean it was drafted by some 1st class lawyers who hoped they had made it as watertight as possible the difficulty is number 10 Keep say ah we are gay to obey the law. But we're going to test the Benedict we're going to abate the law but we're still going to leave Deal or No Deal those you know those are 2 contradictory statements so where is the loophole those who drafted the Bennett act don't know whether the loophole is they are not sure that been speculation the former prime minister John Major. Problems to John Major who face it he was amongst those who took Boris Johnson to court Supreme Court he fears Boris Johnson will use a rather all Kate form of procedure called an order of counsel for the Privy Council that. He John Major fears could be used to circumvent it. I mean we are now really playing around with the obscurities in the rarities of British constitutional procedures. In exploiting things that have been used to a very very very long time in ways that they have not been used before but then again we seen a government that has been willing to tear up convention or the cause of we are delivering the will of the people we've got to deliver we are in a terrible mess we've been looked at every pause and the will of the people most trial against all else that will in extension then result in an election. I think that is Boris Johnson's number one go on election because if the pin him you know if you look at the opinion polls are that they are volatile at the 1000000 and you know on average the conservatives have a 9 point lead over labor. I think thinking in Number 10 is that Jeremy Corbin. Is very easy to beat even though Jeremy Corbin gave to reason by a heck of a run for her money in 2017. They believe that the wheels coming off the Gerry Cobain leadership that his young and enthusiastic support is on now disenchanted by Corbin's own reluctance to come down in favor of when Main. Germy cool been very much with Maine's sitting on the fence when it comes to bricks it. He's offering to negotiate a new deal and then have another referendum. But he's not prepared to advocate full blooded remain a stance now and it has helped is one of the factors that has been undermining Jeremy Coburn leaving aside you know the control that Caesar Semitism and so forth because Labour's amidst all the focus on the tour splits Labor has been having its own good say privately to be very very public you look at the shenanigans the party conferences the temp the temp to unseat the deputy leader from the conservative point of view they're seeing the main opponent is seriously would now the conservative government you might say a pretty much on the days you know. Desperately cling to the finishing line. But I think against a week in the pundit like this. With Boris Johnson who is certainly a doubt a campaigner they think they have a child's and they see if this election is going to become essentially the bricks it election. The way Boris Johnson's camp would view it is leave supporters have no where to go really Ok yes I know there's not a party but the conservative pitch will be Boris Johnson is fighting tooth and nail to get bricks it done he's the only man who has a fighting chance of becoming Prime Minister Nigel for a large copy point minister. So Rally Round Boris get us over the line and they hope to pick up leaves supporters. In a lot of traditional Labor seats. And then what the remaining fracture between the Liberal Democrats the Greens labor votes might go every which way in the meantime you know the s. And. Pe will be making them against north of the border. And what Boris Johnson would hope is the conservatives come through the middle and end up with I wouldn't say hefty majority but a workable Shorty a decent George that would actually enable him with should we say the light members apart members of parliament because we have seen some Conservative M.P.'s prepared to fight him to the bitter red and not. Prepared to cut off his nose to spite his face in a way that kicked out $21.00 of. Them without a 2nd thought. A coalition there is likely to be a coalition Well that's the seeming That is assuming that. If the Conservatives lose any next election. That and if there is no clear winner and a hung parliament is. A credible alternative. Then what happens Josue and soon the Liberal Democrat leader has been an increase a noticeably really on enthusiastic about the possibility of going into coalition with Jeremy Corbett and we must remember that the Liberal Democrats have a very bad experience of going into coalition last on they did so with the conservatives they saw their number of parliamentary seats reduced from 57 to just 8. Which was savage. The conserved part but. Then attention. No no no no but if the price of going into coalition with anybody means that you decimated the polling next election why would they give in to coalition with even with labor because the junior partner of any coalition. History tells us gets hammered at the next election the Liberal Democrats are paid a terrible price for going into coalition with anyone and they're going to be very reluctant to do it again so the interesting question is Where else would turn to he's always will go over the border to the s.n.p. . And the s.n.p. Made it clear that they would be willing to talk and of course what would be the s. And P's price another referendum on Scottish independence wouldn't it. So you know there would be a price to pay the Liberal Democrats might lend their support to a Labor government informally simply to prevent a hard Brix it or. Anything from the Liberal Democrats perspectives that actually could even weather sparks it because that is what the Liberal Democrats all committed to they would work with Labor on that but I don't see them going into coalition with them Same with anybody labor. Not even the Labor Party simply because they got their fingers so badly beforehand. And of course they take a very dim view of Jeremy Coburn himself if you had a different type of leader. I think they would be able to work much more closely together the moment was when wrestling with all these issues over here and what joys Yes. What about perspective from Brussels do you think there will come a point no doubt if it comes it will come in the next short while there will come a point where the European Union says that that's it we've just had enough please u.k. Leave to take. A human wouldn't it it really would be. President of fraud has been taking all those in or making it very clear look you know the Brits taking you for a ride this is ridiculous enough is enough he was against the last extension. To it the one thing that will keep the e.u. Hanging on and it's all well and. Remains a member of the European. Union and no deal is going to her. Very hold they will be very conscious they are there to support one of their own. No longer one of their time we're heading towards the exit door but they will stand foursquare behind on oil and. So I think they will be guided in a considerably by Dublin's wishes and if Dublin wants another extension there will be another extension and if you can just keep talking and talking and somehow minimize a no deal breaks it or you know soften the bricks deal to Olens advantage that will always be worth doing actually while on the subject of the all of all and there's another element to all of this which is extraordinary is. Monk's Boris Johnson's proposals halt which is that the Northern Ireland Assembly would have a veto every 4 years only deal that's been proposed in all the law and which after which is underpinning you know this is what Boris Johnson's proposals is all about. So the future trade relations between the e.u. And the u.k. Would be at the mercy of a regional assembly a regional assembly which has been suspended since January 27th teen and shows no sign of getting back together again certainly won't be back together by October the 31st I mean that's cloud cuckoo land but the idea. E.u. Would agree to a circumstance where a regional assembly could tear up. The trading agreement it has with a now the government I think is something that is going to be completely unacceptable to it it frankly should be completely unacceptable to the u.k. When the hold evolution settle was mapped out Westminster made every very short that control of international trade and foreign policy remained at Westminster you didn't get either a green assembly all which will parliament say no that remains at Westminster but instead Boris Johnson is no we will give the Northern Ireland Assembly and the executive. I say every 4 years if they want us to carry on and if they say no. Then the deal is off. Now even if let's just assume this deal gets approved which is such a big if it. If it does get approved and if and this is another big if a neon lights the northern all assembly staggers to its feet starts beating once again then every 4 years as. Both the e.u. And the u.k. Government are going to have to go look at Stallman say pretty please can you when you. New trading arrangements and if somebody says no it goes up in smoke and you can imagine the plights that still want might Demond from all sides to agree to a renewal I mean before I mean we are now getting. Into truly Lupino and.