I'm a suspected drug lord in 2011 b.b.c. News. I man you're listening to assignment on the b.b.c. World Service. When a homemade bomb was detonated on a train on the London Underground last month it is the latest in a wave of terrorist attacks to hit Britain this year. It's a problem the government and security services desperate to get under control his the British prime minister to resign May Speaking at the United Nations last month we must step up our efforts as never before to tackle the terrorist use of the Internet but we need to go further and faster to reduce the time it takes to remove terrorist content online. This is a major step in reclaiming the Internet from those who would use it to do it on. But is the digital world the any place where extremist ideas the meant in this program I'll be exposing hate speech sectarianism and even support for jihad appearing in old media here in the u.k. In newspapers that serve the British Pakistani community. I'm in east London home to the biggest Muslim community in Britain and just outside the skin here on the doorstep there's a huge pile of newspapers they've just been delivered to the press this is the. It's a free paper which is distributed to mosques and Islamic centers of the country looking at the front page of the right red logo at the top which also incorporates the Pakistani flag and the paper is printed primarily. Language spoken by the majority of British Pakistanis of which there are about 1200000 inside a mix u.k. And Pakistani news providing readers with a link to what's going on here in Britain as well as back in the homeland of Pakistan. To the communities and. The papers are you a regular reader because. It's a good newspaper What do you like about. Information. We have. A picture of her. But between the pages discussing what's going on in Pakistani politics and cricket not to mention a sizeable number of lonely hearts ads assignment has discovered some of Britain's or 2 papers a publishing much more content for there's a concerted campaign targeting the enmity community which is a minority Muslim sect. He. So we've come into a little grocery shop here in London as you walk in the hall which is on one side as a grocery counter on the other and right in front of you there are language uses and looking up I thought sauces we've got pickles and jams tell me a bit about what their products to sell it's a basically a fruit based company and or brand it goes back over the over 40 years people in Pakistan are really familiar with the brand and that it has the Pakistani diaspora exists big in the u.k. We do find a market for our products. The man I'm speaking with us he doesn't want me to tell you his name only that he's a senior executive at the food for. A popular brand in Pakistan which has been exporting to Britain 3 years. Over the buzz of the put She saw he tells me about the source of his nervousness and add that which has been running in the why news paper calling on readers to point caught his company's products in recent days there have been some sort of you know religious it has to be careful it's alleged that you know she's on it by a member of the minority community by that you mean people from the comedy community and yes and because of that the programs exist minority community do. An umbrella of shares but we don't have any identity as a and your religious company or something that we are you surprised because we certainly have been looking at newspapers in this country they seem to be running big full page ads calling for boycotts of your products yes in this country I was really surprised that the liberal minded people you have people saying boy courses on looks or it was quite shocking to me quite shocking. This is the offending advertisement which we found in several editions of know why they published this summer. A full page ad featuring rows of shoes on products and across the middle it says God which is a derogatory term for Amity people so what's behind the why. Joining me is assignment producer subject because previously worked as a print journalist in Pakistan in many ways such as you've been reading through some of the back issues can you tell me that about the paper and we know why the junk is put together by a small team invest London and Manchester and have been for coalition for around like 15 years this Edward multiple times the FIA and there is a back strong it can you just translate that yeah it is she van of the company owned by car the unease in order to uphold the honor of your feet by courted completely you shouldn't buy these products and put others to the theme. That's what it feels it's as blatant as that yeah the fuse this effectively. And box done hundreds if not 1000 for them they've ever been killed for good belief. And that deadly violence against the m. And a community spread from Pakistan to the u.k. Last year when asked that shark a shopkeeper from Scotland was stabbed to death after a man accused him of blasphemy. This shocking murder exposed the sectarian schism within Britain's Muslim community although a man was killed it continues to rage as can be seen in the flow of m.t.m. Of the material in the know why news paper. We contacted the paper's editors asking them to justify why they published this kind of content but despite an early promise to provide answers they failed to respond and didn't give us an interview. Through the end of the community still reeling from the murder of a sledge shark such blatant hatred is deeply worrying at the London mosque where I am of these worship I meet with feet higher at a senior leader of the community in the u.k. I asked him to explain what led to the end of these being targeted in the 1st place all the major religions of the world are expecting the 2nd coming of the Messiah or the promised reformer and we believe the former has come and he came in India over 100 years ago and his name was and this is where we have conflict with some of the other Muslims because they do not accept him to be the reformer. And therefore we are not true Muslims many Muslims regard Emmet these as being outside of the religion but don't see this is anything more than just a theological difference but there is a minority which is actively fueling sectarian hate so when I revealed our findings terrific high at he was not and then he surprised this is the other one here I want to still have to watch about. And that's for sure 2017 this is this is only one small part of it I mean if you look through these papers you will find there is so much been published against the community you know there are articles and articles openly being published to prejudice the minds of Muslims you know that these are disloyal Muslims over with the don't consider is Muslim of this vile people working against the larger Muslim community the tinies between Britain's Pakistani community and Pakistan run deep but in the grand scheme of things who do media and Britain is a very small fish in a very big pond So just how influential is it it's a question we put to Dr it through their cim a bombing in basic human rights an interfaith activist whose advise both the British government and the un Well they're very influential although the leadership might be very small what we should understand is the culture of gossip amongst the community so fun member of a community read a very sensational news than most likely he will spread it across and now I find it very disturbing that in the social media people would put certain extracts from the news and would say it's a religious binding on you to share it if you're a good Muslim and if you love the Prophet You must share it so it's spread across the community very very quick. Another newspaper which is a direct link to Pakistan is the Dail solve it originates from Pakistan but it's also we hear a politician which is published here in London and distributed throughout the play . I just walked into a new. One just like any other country and here is a copy of the. 1000. It said it is say the paper is based on 3 principles. And unison. Has been reading this paper pretty regularly over recent months. So I'm back in the office with assignment produces such a big bell and some but copies of the paper subject he worked as a print journalist in Pakistan you must have come across the daily Assaf it's a really popular paper here in the British Pakistani community well what's in it. It is quite popular in Pakistan not on the top but 2nd ranking newspaper that comes under that kept getting help out here yet here it is the most popular language newspaper that what management and claim. Here and what's in it it's more like Pakistan's best Pakistani politics and very familiar content again a lot of and b m d stories and you've translated some of these articles here what they say there is no expletive incitement telling the truth to harm them of these but the language is very insulting for for example the call for Gord to be in fire on the grave of. The founder of the movement they describe him as. We contacted the Daily Mail self to ask why it's publishing and distributing the articles here in the u.k. While they ignored our requests for an interview we did receive an e-mail from its office in Islamabad from Editor Mohamed Haneef who also sees the London operation and he was unrepentant saying that the regards to the issues raised in relation to the end of the community I would like to clarify that this community not just in Pakistan but many other Muslim countries have been declared non Muslims to Wreford to them as Ghost is very common in our society a mother even says it to her son and therefore it shouldn't be taken as serious as it may sound so the day is defiant on the end of the issue but there's more isn't it yes there is also articles in private hummable logged in and formally draw for Afghan Taliban there also seems to be quite a lot here on Kashmir Yeah Kashmir big issue. Of the people frequently publishes stories that celebrate commander of militant groups like his Bill McBride beam. These are all described groups here and so we ban them we consider them terrorist groups and yet just looking through the translations Eve done here his is a column by one of the paper's star writers in which he recalls meeting one of these commanders and he says he had bright eyes and an impressive personality and when you look at him you can't take your eyes off him he then goes on to describe his faces glowing with celestial light and how they talked about jihad being the aim of his life this is typical for this paper it is like you know what ship. India and Pakistan this bitter territorial dispute over Kashmir has gone on for decades and it remains a particularly hot button issue for many British Pakistanis and you have to remember in this country the biggest Muslim community comes from customer figures sort of very but you're talking about almost a 1000000 people who trace their heritage back to that part of Pakistan Rafaello plant Tucci is the director of International Security Studies at the think tank the Royal United Services Institute and he says Kashmir has also played an important role in luring British Muslims into the global jihad I mean it can be a gateway if you go back and look at sort of you know the pre 911 period you can see the lot of the young British Muslims who are going out to explore the idea of jihad to go train we're going to his bomber Jane in comes people like Mohammed City Khan whose whole adventure towards jihad and ultimately launching an attack on London's public transport system really starts with exploring the sort of cautionary movements. We did ask the daily Assaf about its coverage of Kashmiri militants and what considerations it made with regard to publishing articles and interviews with militant leaders who would be considered perscribe terrorists here in Britain in an email the paper senior editor many floaty reiterated the principles in the paper's editorial policy piece faith. And said the material we've highlighted was taken out of context however he also admitted that there were breaches of editorial policy in the articles being questioned by assignment which were printed earlier this year during a period when Mr Lowy was absent from the office we were told that an internal investigation took place and the daily solves that 2 members of staff. He showed us the texture measures were now in place to ensure that such material wouldn't appear again in the future all very positive but in the polls to be weeks that pledge has seemingly gone out of the window looking through copies of The Daily Show self published in the past month opinion pieces by one of its columnists clearly expressed support for jihad jihad by the sword while none of the current daily management were willing to provide an interview we did track down the former editor of it's your position that being Choudhry Dale solved from 2005 and step down as editor at the end of July this year I asked him to explain who had the editorial control when it came to putting the paper together actually it but appeared in Islamabad and came over here. From pox on it. For. I couldn't check. Writing but sometimes people told me that that is going to. Be published how did they respond when you put that up when you pointed out that some of the stuff would cause trouble for. They say Ok I'm going to tell and he told your staff and you also keep looking on the matter and let me know if it happened again Well it's interesting you say that because despite your pointing it out to them and them being aware that it was real problem here I mean just looking at some of the articles you have printed that went out in the paper you know there are several which very very negative in a very offensive about the of the community. You know this this one for example where it talks about the Yemenis having a huge contingent and his radio Army says that there are hundreds of and the people in the Israeli army Now obviously that's going to be very provocative to the Muslim heritage here and also it's not true yeah I know it's true but that there are cells in Pakistan you know they are just transforming the information over here we don't want it. Then that's when you say you know it's not true and it just sells well in fact is the kind of journalism is that. You know a discard that takes all that is well General or a lack of a bar where there is no rule of law the law ethics during the course of our interview the bean challenge retold me how the daily all self focus on Kashmiri issues was a calculated move to talk at the British Pakistani community in fact he said the paper had been struggling financially in its early is and realize there was a sizable market to be tapped but does that justify the papers woman approval of Kashmiri militant groups I don't think that is it's my duty to label one that either Dennis or either here or I only have to check that I have to publish the material which was for your benefit him not. For my audience sympathies. You know right I've never I don't think it is your duty but luckily the government does do this they do state who they you know designated as terrorist groups groups who are banned so are these groups will notify diminution of yes they say yes because at the same time many published articles very openly sort of saying very positive things about Osama bin Ladin you know saying he wasn't really a terrorist he was just a humble servant of the Creator is a man who's responsible for thousands of deaths including the deaths of Muslims he said similar things about Miller well that the head of the Afghan Taliban so well put I don't know if I have published these kind of thing and I would like I believe love to not one day have been published we we have the articles for sure I would love to so that's a column by that that said it will be aired disparage had been published in all of the additions of course often parsed on a visual has that make it acceptable here how do you feel about what it says Do you agree with the sentiment of the novelist I don't call him the hero for a Muslim woman. When I am not so why that would be for those who have of the predominantly this or that very rigid in their believe I'm a liberal Muslim and I published this day off today why would you allow that what I'm telling you that if I don't have the guidelines and rules and regulations that really have my limits and I am publishing anything but that is not toward the rich have been strictly checking our Sony or any other. Community Newspapers We want to speak to the papers management in Pakistan about this how they receive concerns from the u.k. Colleagues and what do they have to say about publishing so-called fake news just a piece but they didn't respond to our inquiries. But is anyone else paying attention to what these newspapers are publishing a regulator perhaps in the u.k. The print media has a pretty free reign newspapers self regulate and the government takes an intentionally hands off approach in order to maintain the freedom of the press free from government influence However this also means that will do papers like no why adjourn and daily Assaf have been able to print what have they want but when you propagating prejudice against religious minorities or supporting the actions of militant groups it's not breaking the law lawyer Max Hill is the man in charge of overseeing the U.K.'s terrorism. I also how easy it is to prosecute people for airing what most people in Britain would consider to be extremist views if that extremism doesn't actually lead to violence I would say that the bar is high it's appropriate that the bar is high because the law in this area has to be particularly sensitive to the rights of individuals to say what they feel even if the majority of the population would not agree with what they feel so the law is retreating into that area where what people are saying is so extreme that it actually breaks the criminal law that is a difficult boundary to identify for the law and for lawyers what I think would be an enormous retrograde step for the criminal law is for it to bear down on freedom of communication freedom of speech because actually it's only when people say things that are offensive that the opportunity appears for ordinary people to put them right the British government says it's committed to tackling extremist content and hate speech in all its forms. But that's a delicate balance between protecting the right to freedom of speech and protecting the public the classic double edged sword but for those people in communities who are at the sharp end of that sot who are affected by harmful free speech it can be a difficult compromise to accept his her feet high at from the British Amity community I guess again this issue of freedom of speech comes in. A suspect the government feels that people have the right to say but this is where they have to ask the question what type of His side to want to live in such a friend of hate and prejudice where you know people have to fear their lives because people are allowed to say whatever they like and I think this is somebody somewhere has to define what free speech actually means. And. You've been listening to assignment with me man Vin Ron and the producers were Richard Fenton Smith and subject Paul you're listening to the b.b.c. 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