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Port of person Paul had a mess is in Moscow a score of ambassadors have shown up at the Foreign Ministry they came in none of them stay for very long and then the steady drip of information about countries being told to expel one here to that 3 there so it's all adding up very much in the way that people expected I think it was always inevitable that the Russians would choose to expel the American diplomats 1st and then the rest of them following suit today and interestingly that additional move against the British I think is a sign that the Russians feel that Britain is deserving of special punishment for what it called provocative actions which led to the moves by all of those other countries Palestinian sources Ingo says he thought people have been killed by Israeli forces and hundreds wounded during clashes along the border with Israel most protests are underway and the Israeli army says rioting has broken out heal and now is in Jerusalem a mass officials addressed large crowds of Palestinians gathering in 5 protest camps along the border this is meant to be the 1st day of 6 weeks of demonstrations in the run up to the 70th anniversary of the creation of the state the Israeli military has deployed tanks and snipers in the area it says Palestinian protesters throwing stones and burning tires and it's used tear gas to force them back from approaching the border fence the authorities in the Czech Republic have extradited a suspected Russian hacker to the United States defying Moscow which would also wanted him extradited on different charges if Gainey know Colin has denied any wrongdoing Rob Cameron is in Prague 2 years ago Yevgeny in the cooling was approached by police as he sat perusing a menu with a female friend in a progress Toronto police video showed a rather lengthy man in his late twenty's wearing fashionable clothes and with an expensive sports car parked outside the F.B.I. Said missed in the coolin was suspected of hacking and millions of users are. Sites including Dropbox and Langton and demanded he stands trial in California but his arrest sparked off a diplomatic tug of war between Prague Moscow and Washington the prime minister of Kosovo had a D.N.I. Has sent 2 top officials for keeping him in the dark about the deportation to Turkey of 6 supposed supporters of the exile cleric fit to allow Glenn Mr Harradine I said the interior minister and the head of the Intelligence Agency ordered the arrests without his permission and this is the world news from the B.B.C. The Pentagon has confirmed that a U.S. Marine was killed on Thursday while serving in Syria for the coalition fighting Islamic state militants a 2nd coalition soldier died in the bomb blast and 5 others were wounded the nationalities of the other casualties have not yet been confirmed. A prominent Senegalese politician Holly for cell has been given a 5 year jail sentence for fraud this does sound who is the mayor of the capital Dhaka that being accused of embezzling public funds Alex Duval Smith who's in Dhaka has more details the month long trial had sought to establish the whereabouts of $34000000.00 significantly the mare and the finance director of Dhaka City Hall were found guilty of using fake invoices that charge strips L. Of eligibility just then for political office the man's supporters claim the conviction is political and intended to prevent the politician from standing for president of Senegal in 2019. Smith attorney in Moscow has begun issuing masks and respirators to residents affected by clouds of hydrogen sulfide coming from a nearby landfill site people in the little lambs cans been staging protests saying the toxic rotten egg smell is making children ill officials say the level was 10 times over the limit on Thursday 9 days ago 57 children were taken to hospital with nausea and headaches Crim and spokesman Dmitri Peskov said President Putin was following the situation closely but added that there was no quick fix and Muslim Eman in the Indian state of West Bengal has appealed for karma after his teenage son was killed in Hindu Muslim riots addressing the funeral prayers of his son in the town of S. And saw him am in Madrid all of a Sheedy said it was his duty to ensure that no other child died and no house was torched he went around the town appealing for peace using a megaphone and that's the latest from B.B.C. News. And welcome to Tech tent Joe with regard to all the news and trends in the technology World I'm Mary Catherine Jones and this way the story that keeps on growing we explore just how much data Facebook advertisers are still scooping up about us we hear from a marketer he uses quizzes to target ads at Facebook users and from an open data advocate who's worried that the current controversy could harm he's well research projects plus will discuss whether progress in autonomous car technology will really make our cities safer and less congested with me this week is Leo Kelly an editor at The B.B.C.'s technology news site they were good to have you back and my special guest I frequent visitor is K. Pettit Bevan editor at the consumer site which computing allocate time roaring is the flavor of what's in the shelves what's happening on the world's roadways are nothing that we as humans should be proud of $1250000.00 people die every year on roads around the world it is increasing the total number of trips and these are these are discretionary trips that the person would not have taken if not for cheap available ride sharing more on that later but 1st the scandal over Cambridge analytical alleged mining of Facebook data for political campaigning has led to more soul searching this week about the social media giants use of information the data at the heart of the controversy was collected 4 years ago through a personality quiz designed by a Cambridge University academic and Facebook says it since made it much harder for apps like that to scoop up data without consent but I've been speaking to a marketing consultant who helps businesses use Facebook quizzes to target ads Derek Cohen from Utah in the United States explain just how much you could learn from a quiz what I realized with these violent quizzes is that you can get people to answer questions that were necessarily important to the quiz result but could be really helpful for the business as an exam. Well I would have a quiz out there that would say something like What's your mommy superpower but we would get really detailed into maybe how stressed are you at home or how much did you spend last time you did some online shopping and we could use that information to build audiences on Facebook to target with really targeted advertising afterwards what sort of data would you end up collecting and how useful would that be to those businesses slow the way Facebook advertising works is I didn't really have to get anybody to give me their name their e-mail address or their phone number oftentimes they did depending on the type of quiz I was using but even without them giving me any specific information there's a little piece of code that you could add to basically any web page that records what you do on the web page so I would get a list of people who told me that they spent a lot of money on online purchases I can now upload that list to Facebook and say hey give me more people like them so here in the states anyway I would tell them give me the one percent of people on Facebook that are most like those 500 people they would give me back a list of about 2200000 people who I could now target with advertising that look like audience type thing is what everybody's doing to get really great ads but together now that is for commercial use to try and sell I don't know shoes or or nappies Oh whatever could this technique be used for political campaigns if it's a political campaign want to do something like that today it wouldn't be hard at all to put together any type of quiz I mean you could make it really political and say who should you vote for next or you can make it kind of goofy and just say you know what sports team should you be playing for you can always throw in the weird questions like Well when was the last time you voted or what party you affiliate with and what I found anyway as those kind of questions really didn't get people to for. Fall out of the quiz process and the data that's collected by those quizzes Is there anything to stop companies that collect them selling that data are on to other companies that are definitely not necessarily there is there I mean Facebook might have a couple of policies in place that you can't but they're not enforcing anything like that and even further there is actually a little process within the Facebook advertising interface where I can just literally click on share audience and send it over to another ad campaign another. Account so I could run a quiz on my account and then at some other company wanted that same information I could click share or send them that audience and then they could run ads with that same audience from their account Steranko and we asked Facebook to respond to Mr Cowen suggestion that its system actually encouraged advertisers to share data with each other the companies yet to get back to us but locally in their pretty busy because there's now a new row over an internal Facebook memo which gives us a bit of insight into how the company thinks take us through that this was headlined the ugly written in 2016 bit only league now to Buzz Feed about Facebook's pursuit of growth Let me read you a few sentences from it maybe it costs a life by exposing someone to bullies maybe someone dies in a terrorist attack called Natan on our talk the ugly truth is that we believe in connecting people so deeply that anything that allows us to connect more people more often is de facto good and know this is being confirmed as being written by the inventor of the news feed and who pulls worth he says he never actually believed what he wrote a new journey intended to be provocative and chief executive Mark Zuckerberg has also come out saying he disagrees strongly with the sentiment about what was in it but part of was really damaging about this is that it's being leaked right now just when investor and public confidence from Facebook isn't alone struggling to get to grips with Cambridge analytical. Yeah there was another line in his about questionable. Loading of contacts which comes from a call with me because I had a look at my data this week and found out that yeah they had all my phone contacts which I'd forgotten giving permission for but I had obviously now I got not one but 2 guests to talk this through our come to Cape Evan in a moment we're also joined by Jenny Tennyson and the U.K.'s Open Data Institute and Jenny you've got concerns in this whole kind of panic about data it's going to make lots of organizations in fact less open and there are bad effects is that right you know more or less we really think that decisions that are informed by better by data can be made quicker and they're better so we want to see data you know getting to the people who need to make those decisions and if people start withdrawing consent for data or lying for example in the census when data gets collected then we went Have a good quality data in the decisions made off the back of that are going to be worse but Kate BEVAN The problem is the WE these companies are losing trust they are very rapidly and they are and they've got a real job to do to rebuild that trust because I think what's really important about this ongoing multi-faceted Rao is that we're having a conversation about the transparency versus the passageway of what we've been consenting to and I think that's really really important and I think it helps people to understand what happens when you do a stupid quiz on Facebook with something like the story particularly And what is the end point of the data you give them isn't how it's used so I think that's important and maybe by being more transparent the trust will come back. Journey to us and we you at all surprised or even shocked by what that marketed told us was because. It will be a mystery to most people who use Facebook but not to anyone who's involved in the advertising industry I wasn't it wasn't that surprised that quizzes could get hold of that information I think what shocked has shocked me about the Cambridge analytical widest story is how much information they could get about other. The people that we are connected to so it really highlights how the information that is how it about us is actually about lots and lots of people not just about us and when we give consent for access to information about us where actually giving it consent for information for a friends and family to and how do you as a body which you know is encouraging data sharing in some way how do you. Encourage the public to think that that's a good thing when actually every headline is blaring out that is a bad thing at the moment. I think there is going to aspects for control over data that's about you there's the control that says right and I don't want anybody to use this I want to hold it back and there's the control that says I want to be able to use it I want to be able to make good decisions based on this I want to have personalized services and it's finding it's kind of exercising both of those controls is what we need this story is highlighting the need for control to to stop stuff happening but we also know that openness part is having the control to make stuff happen to use that other applications rather than just using the ones that you're given. This week Facebook made a great show of revamping its previously settings. Saying instead of looking at 20 different screens you look at one and you'd be able to exercise more control over your data are they really doing enough here they have they handled this whole affair Well one of the 1st listen it could point out that the revamping of the privacy controls is about G.D.P. Which is a new incoming E.U. Data protection and I said to them that's what they said you know they were insisting we didn't bring this forward because of because of this controversy but we're we've got to get ready for the nice new data protection regulation I think they've been really caught in the back foot by this I think internally I suspect they think oh well this is normal we understand this therefore we think everybody else probably doesn't they're realizing that actually maybe people don't so I think think they got scrambling to catch up a bit and I think we're all scrambling to catch up with it actually. Jenny I mean it's strikes me that they they need to be a bit more proactive I put it to them that for instance I found out that they had all my thousands of phone contacts when I didn't realize that and they basically said well it was up to you you know shouldn't they actually be going out actively and saying to the pretty billions of people who have stuck all their phone contacts unknowingly on Facebook by the way you've done this you know you might want to think about it yeah I think they need to be more trying. Behrendt about the way who data has been shared with and also how it's been used who has been taking out ads and what has been targeted with those ads and I think I would like to see them actually publishing that as open data so that we can get transparency on that for the media for consumer groups so we can really understand what the targeting looks like and and get to grips with how the data has been used not just how it's been collected Well I think we can be sure of one thing this story has got some more weeks to run us need to take turn on the B.B.C. World Service with Rory Catherine Jones in a moment we'll autonomous cars really make our cities less congested. First though let's have a look at some of the week's other big tech stories with Leo Kelly and Leo a big week for China's tech giant Holloway despite the fact that it shut out of America that's right launched its latest flagship 3 camera smartphone 3 Cameron small and why did a 3 terrorism as well there's all kinds of reasons that people seem to like that it also came out with some strong earnings but what I want to highlight is its research and development spend ruled it was close to 14000000000 dollars last year and said it could be as much as $20000000000.00 over the current period no longer than its preparation for 5 G. But it puts it spending ahead of the likes of Samsung Apple Microsoft Intel involves while getting fined according to The Financial Times and the Amazon an alphabet spend more and 2017 and you can see off the back that why some U.S. Politicians might indeed be under pressure to protect their own companies from the competition it poses Kate Bevan who our way is this sort of we're not hidden giant but an overload of people in the west pretty don't realize quite how powerful it is now which is spending on artificial intelligence for one AI is kind of the next big thing that's coming to your phone particular your Android phone of course who are makes Android phones it's already on phones. You know my phone is a Google phone and I can ask it to put pictures of my cat looking at the computer because all of my pictures are of my cat but without actually having tagged it it's doing that and so this kind of thing which is quite fun at the moment is coming to your phone in a way that the idea is going to help use the phone better help you take better pictures with those 3 cameras for example I think is actually very cool and it's the next step in Mobile Phone development and it's also another big data question mark of I seriously what kind of control we're having that and another big data breach this time a fitness app you know feels like there's another one of these pretty much every day this time it's my fitness Powell of the popular food and I actively track a 150000000 people have been infected including me and usernames you know about you know they go it looks like use names and e-mail addresses potentially stolen supposedly we're told the passwords were strongly in coded encrypted so people's data should in theory be safe in the company's favor it did make this public within 4 days of learning the incident even search for mind why you might want to keep a different password for each account user password manager user password manager Kate with the news with that family is that what we holding running around there on the. Air every morning as he runs over with another story and one burger chain didn't see the funny side of You Tube prank videos if you spend much time on You Tube You'll notice prank video has been a really popular trend and to get eyeballs those pranks seem to be getting even more more extreme Well this week one business U.S. Business decided to take a stand after one prankster pretended to be its chief executive Cody Roeder who calls himself a troll munchies allegedly went into 2 of In and Out burgers California restaurants through stewed on the floor shouted out that it was contaminated and garbage firms reacted by suing him for damages and seeking a restraining court order we believe the case store lived at the same can't be said for the. Of the incident which Mr Roeder has since and to be private not so you can see it yes all human life is there and it's not always that attractive but now suddenly the progress toward So driving cars looks less certain after last week's fatal crash in which an you know Thomas mode struck a pedestrian but Google's autonomous vehicle division way Mo is still forging ahead this week you don't build a plan to include $20000.00 electric cars made by the luxury brand JAG you will land rover in its autonomous fleet and man in Silicon Valley Dave Lee asked way most chief executive John Kraft chick whether the public perception of so driving cars had taken a hit our focus h

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