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Graham in clacton. Good morning all. Graham, lets get through this, see what you think. What do you think about . ~. ,. , about . Well, to me, nikki, it is a nonsense about . Well, to me, nikki, it is a nonsense. Nobody, about . Well, to me, nikki, it is a nonsense. Nobody, i about . Well, to me, nikki, it is a nonsense. Nobody, i am about . Well, to me, nikki, it is a nonsense. Nobody, i am a about . Well, to me, nikki, it is a l nonsense. Nobody, i am a smoker, about . Well, to me, nikki, it is a. Nonsense. Nobody, i am a smoker, i have tried to give up quite a lot of times, and the fact is, nobody is Addicted To Smoking. Everybody that smokes is addicted to nicotine within the tobacco. So, what has happened over the last few years, and everybody knows, theyve introduced vapes to enable smokers to give up or try to give up smoking. More children are now using vapes than they ever would have done cigarettes. So, what they are trying to do, ban cigarettes because theyre trying to stop children being addicted. Actually, theyve introduced the exact thing that the kids are going to get addicted to, onto the market, which is running rife. � ,. ,. ,. ,. Rife. But they are going to restrict that. The legislation rife. But they are going to restrict that. The legislation will rife. But they are going to restrict that. The legislation will address | that. The legislation will address that. The legislation will address that. And the chief medical officer chris whitty has said that it is a low bar, he says, it is less harmful than tobacco, but he says tobacco is so harmful, it is a low bar but it is a good full mechanism to stop smoking but they want to stop kids starting it. But youre an addict, right . I starting it. But youre an addict, riuht . Starting it. But youre an addict, ri. Ht . ,. ,. Starting it. But youre an addict, riht . , starting it. But youre an addict, riuht . , right . I am addicted to nicotine. That is it, right . I am addicted to nicotine. That is it, not right . I am addicted to nicotine. That is it, not smoking. Right . I am addicted to nicotine. That is it, not smoking. I right . I am addicted to nicotine. That is it, not smoking. I am that is it, not smoking. I am addicted to nicotine. The smoking bit Isjust Parfor the addicted to nicotine. The smoking bit is just par for the course. What i am after is the nicotine within the tobacco, that is what i need. To be honest with you in never bothers me not to smoke. If i dont have a cigarette it doesnt bother me. But what bothers me is if i cant get the nicotine, that is the difficult bit. , the nicotine, that is the difficult bit. ,. ,. ,. , bit. Ian in chippenham, what do you sa . Until bit. Ian in chippenham, what do you say . Until somebody bit. Ian in chippenham, what do you say . Until somebody invents. Bit. Ian in chippenham, what do you | say . Until somebody invents. They should ban smoking say . Until somebody invents. They should ban smoking completely, say . Until somebody invents. They should ban smoking completely, and the reason should ban smoking completely, and the reason why i say that is because my dad. The reason why i say that is because my dad. He the reason why i say that is because my dad, he sadly died a couple of years my dad, he sadly died a couple of years ago. My dad, he sadly died a couple of years ago, he joined the navy and he was given years ago, he joined the navy and he was given 300 cigarettes per month, which was given 300 cigarettes per month, which got was given 300 cigarettes per month, which got him hooked, Addicted To Smoking, which got him hooked, Addicted To Smoking, nicotine, whatever you want to call smoking, nicotine, whatever you want to call it. Smoking, nicotine, whatever you want to call it. But smoking, nicotine, whatever you want to call it, but he was Addicted To Smoking to call it, but he was Addicted To Smoking and i had to provide him with Palliative Care the last four weeks with Palliative Care the last four weeks of with Palliative Care the last four weeks of his life, and his last word that he weeks of his life, and his last word that he ever weeks of his life, and his last word that he ever said to me, ever said on this that he ever said to me, ever said on this earth that he ever said to me, ever said on this earth was, ian, i cant breathe on this earth was, ian, i cant breathe on this earth was, ian, i cant breathe. But on this earth was, ian, i cant breathe. But its on this earth was, ian, i cant breathe. But its addicted breathe. Blimey. But its addicted to nicotine breathe. Blimey. But its addicted to nicotine. Yes, breathe. Blimey. But its addicted to nicotine. Yes, but breathe. Blimey. But its addicted to nicotine. Yes, but if breathe. Blimey. But its addicted to nicotine. Yes, but if you breathe. Blimey. But its addicted to nicotine. Yes, but if you are. To nicotine. Yes, but if you are auoin to to nicotine. Yes, but if you are going to get to nicotine. Yes, but if you are going to get people to nicotine. Yes, but if you are going to get People Addicted l to nicotine. Yes, but if you are| going to get People Addicted to to nicotine. Yes, but if you are going to get People Addicted to it, et going to get People Addicted to it, get them going to get People Addicted to it, get them off of it, and the way that you are get them off of it, and the way that you are taking in that nicotine is through you are taking in that nicotine is through tobacco, that is going to cause through tobacco, that is going to cause you through tobacco, that is going to cause you cancer, if you think, it wont cause you cancer, if you think, it wont happen to me. We are talking about wont happen to me. We are talking about smoking. If youve got somebody who you absolutely careful, love, somebody who you absolutely careful, iove, dyihg somebody who you absolutely careful, love, dying in front of you as a result love, dying in front of you as a result of love, dying in front of you as a result of being force fed cigarettes when result of being force fed cigarettes when he result of being force fed cigarettes when he was 16 when he joined the navy. When he was 16 when he joined the navy. That when he was 16 when he joined the navy, that got him hooked, then we need to navy, that got him hooked, then we need to be navy, that got him hooked, then we need to be thinking about how to stop that need to be thinking about how to stop that from happening. And need to be thinking about how to stop that from happening. And how to sto stop that from happening. And how to Sto Ouna Stop that from happening. And how to step young peeple stop that from happening. And how to stop young people getting stop that from happening. And how to stop young people getting addicted, l stop young people getting addicted, thatis stop young people getting addicted, that is the impetus behind this. Tracey in devon, jason in glasgow, good morning all, get in touch. I will try to come to some of your texts and get in touch on the phones as well. We are flying on this one, i tell you. There are lots of levels to this. Jason, what you think of this proposed curtailment . Absolutely a nanny state. Scotland has already tried this sugar tax on our national drink which is has basically come bush it, so what they do is, they bring out a similar thing on the sugar and charge you double the price. I enjoy my cigarette, i am double the price. I enjoy my cigarette, iam not double the price. I enjoy my cigarette, i am not addicted to have 20. I like my cigarette, ten cigarettes a day, i enjoy one in the morning, i enjoy one after my meal. But to actually say, to ban. Which it wont be for 15 euros, when youre banning cigarettes, when youre banning cigarettes, when youre looking at churchill and youre looking at churchill and youre looking at other things, it is a nanny. You will never be able to impose that law because at the end of the day, people will get cigarettes, even though the law will be banning them. I am 52 years old and i remember kids, youngsters, we all tried a cigarette at 13, 1a, i wouldnt want anybody to smoke, ok . But while the government is going on with this, and moving on to the vapes, but the vapes, i have never seen so many kids actually addicted to vapes, and i have to say that the government havent told anybody, by the way, the vapes are safe. They did not have a clue on how vapes are safe or how they are going to affect you in the long term. You safe or how they are going to affect you in the long term. Safe or how they are going to affect you in the long term. You think this is authoritarian . You in the long term. You think this is authoritarian . Yes. You in the long term. You think this is authoritarian . Yes. Ist you in the long term. You think this is authoritarian . Yes. Ist is you in the long term. You think this is authoritarian . Yes. Ist isjust i is authoritarian . Yes. Ist is ust another want fl is authoritarian . Yes. Ist is ust another want to i is authoritarian . Yes. Ist is ust another want to get i is authoritarian . Yes. Ist is ust another want to get votes. H is authoritarian . Yes. Ist isjust i another want to get votes. Because at the end of the day, the principle is, how much tax you need to ask one of these mps how much tax is made from cigarettes over a year. The whole shebang. Because at the end of the day it must be about 90 of tax that actually goes on to cigarettes. I dont smoke. I smoke a cigarette. I dont smoke. I smoke a cigarette i dont smoke. I smoke a ciuarette. ,. , cigarette. Ten point for billion ounds, cigarette. Ten point for billion pounds. 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Im sorry to say, but when you look at the obese people, i dont go in the queue and say, by the way, you see these sweets and all that youre eating, why are you eating back . ,. ,. ,. , back . They are not designed to get eole back . They are not designed to get peeple addicted. Back . They are not designed to get People Addicted, are back . They are not designed to get People Addicted, are they . Back . They are not designed to get People Addicted, are they . This back . They are not designed to get People Addicted, are they . This is. Back . They are not designed to get| People Addicted, are they . This is a far more complex problem. Trio. People addicted, are they . This is a far more complex problem. Far more complex problem. No, but the will far more complex problem. No, but they will end far more complex problem. No, but they will end on far more complex problem. No, but they will end up in far more complex problem. No, but they will end up in the they will end up in the hospital because theyre going to have diabetes. ,. , because theyre going to have diabetes. ,. , because theyre going to have diabetes. Thank because theyre going to have diabetes. Thank you. Diabetes. Tracy, go on. Thank you. Just to come diabetes. Tracy, go on. Thank you. Just to come in diabetes. Tracy, go on. Thank you. Just to come in there, diabetes. Tracy, go on. Thank you. Just to come in there, smoking diabetes. Tracy, go on. Thank you. L just to come in there, Smoking Costs the nhs just to come in there, Smoking Costs the nhs huge. Just to come in there, Smoking Costs the nhs huge. We just to come in there, Smoking Costs the nhs huge, we are just to come in there, Smoking Costs the nhs huge, we are on just to come in there, Smoking Costs the nhs huge, we are on our just to come in there, Smoking Costs the nhs huge, we are on our knees. 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I am not disputing it is bad for you. That to carry on. I am not disputing it is bad for you. That is to carry on. I am not disputing it is bad for you. That is not i to carry on. I am not disputing it is bad for you. That is not what i i is bad for you. That is not what i am saying. What i am saying is, the law has basically taken your liberty is a way to make that choice. You can do a lot of things when you are 18 years old, as nicky said, join the army, lots of, voting, different things, that is your choice. You make a choice if you want to smoke a lot. I dont smoke 100 cigarettes, i smoke ten cigarettes, not even that, i have got my vapour. But ijust think that when you bring out a law thatis think that when you bring out a law that is unenforceable, it is, because we have a law that was just brought out last week, we have 7000 complaints. Brute brought out last week, we have 7000 comlaints. ~ ,. , � , complaints. We discussed it. Lets aet back complaints. We discussed it. Lets get back to complaints. We discussed it. Lets get back to the complaints. We discussed it. Lets get back to the love complaints. We discussed it. Lets get back to the love or complaints. We discussed it. Lets get back to the love or hate i complaints. We discussed it. Lets get back to the love or hate of i get back to the love or hate of cigarettes. And also this legislation. Tracy, is It Practicable . Is it laudable, to stop young people becoming addicted . But do you think this will effect a culture change, tracey . I do you think this will effect a culture change, tracey . I fear not because there culture change, tracey . I fear not because there are culture change, tracey . I fear not because there are too culture change, tracey . I fear not because there are too many i because there are too many advertising campaigns, smoking is seen advertising campaigns, smoking is seen as advertising campaigns, smoking is seen as trendy, i dont think that is going seen as trendy, i dont think that is going to seen as trendy, i dont think that is going to do change, but we do need is going to do change, but we do need to is going to do change, but we do need to do is going to do change, but we do need to do something to try to stop it. I need to do something to try to stop it. , � ,. , ~ it. I dont see where the smoking, where the it. I dont see where the smoking, where the advertisement it. I dont see where the smoking, where the advertisement is i it. I dont see where the smoking, where the advertisement is for i where the advertisement is for smoking, it is not on the telly, i dont see it publicised to say, have a cigarette, it is cool. All that is gone. A cigarette, it is cool. 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How many kids do you see vaping . You go into the shops. | vaping . You go into the shops. Jason, jason. Vaping . You go into the shops. Jason, jason. I vaping . You go into the shops. Jason, jason. I worked vaping . You go into the shops. Jason, jason. I worked in i vaping . You go into the shops. Jason, jason. I worked in a jason, jason. I worked in a secondary jason, jason. I worked in a Secondary School until four years a o Secondary School until four years ago and Secondary School until four years ago and let me tell you you have got kids as ago and let me tell you you have got kids as young as 12, 13 vaping. I see them kids as young as 12, 13 vaping. I see them go down the street, they are everywhere. It is a trendy thing to d0~ are everywhere. It is a trendy thing to d0~ its are everywhere. It is a trendy thing to do. Itsjust disgusting. And what to do. Itsjust disgusting. And what we to do. Itsjust disgusting. And what we are doing to our health ism what we are doing to our health ism i what we are doing to our health ism i hate what we are doing to our health is. I hate walking behind anyone smoking is. I hate walking behind anyone smoking or is. I hate walking behind anyone smoking or vaping, is. I hate walking behind anyone smoking orvaping, i is. I hate walking behind anyone smoking or vaping, i will cross the road, smoking or vaping, i will cross the road. I smoking or vaping, i will cross the road. I dont smoking or vaping, i will cross the road, i dont want to inhale back into road, idont want to inhale back into my road, i dont want to inhale back into my already damaged lungs from years of into my already damaged lungs from years of growing up in that environment. I years of growing up in that environment. Years of growing up in that environment. ,. ,. , environment. I remember going to my aunts house environment. I remember going to my aunts house. Youre environment. I remember going to my aunts house. Youre right, aunts house. Youre right, tracey, in inverness, and aunts in inverness showed a house, and wiping their screen, and all the yellow stuff came off the screen and they thought it was just a bad tv, but it was like putting glasses on. And you see those Old Television programmes there is smoke everywhere, and you think, my goodness me, what a world it was. Stay there, tracey. Cash, nicky, good morning, cash, what to go thing about the prospect of a 36 year old being able to buy fax, but not a 35 year old model you agree with borisjohnson, is this bonkers . Agree with boris johnson, is this bonkers . ,. , ~ agree with boris johnson, is this bonkers . ,. , ~ ,. , bonkers . No, i work in Public Health and the idea bonkers . No, i work in Public Health and the idea that bonkers . No, i work in Public Health and the idea that an bonkers . No, i work in Public Health and the idea that an 80yearold. Bonkers . No, i work in Public Health and the idea that an 80yearold is| and the idea that an 80 year old is going to be idealfor cigarettes, but i think also, it is interesting that smokers are one are saying that this is bad, whereas people that do not smoke are not really against it. And we do have a massive pressure on the nhs at the moment and just like last year, over 500,000 Hospital Admissions were atra beatable to smoking, and over 70 deaths. And the fact that people are still saying this is a good thing, we should be able to smoke if we want, it is just madness. Able to smoke if we want, it is ust madness. �. ,. , able to smoke if we want, it is ust madness. �. , able to smoke if we want, it is ust madness. � , , madness. But nobody said smoking is a aood madness. But nobody said smoking is a good thing madness. But nobody said smoking is a good thing it madness. But nobody said smoking is a good thing. It is madness. But nobody said smoking is a good thing. 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Have you got any sympathy for that taking away a little pleasure from people, tash . I little pleasure from people, tash . I absolutely do, it is the same with alcohol, alcohol causes massive harms but we are not going to say you cant drink. I think if we made smokers pay for their own healthcare, then i think. Who said m name healthcare, then i think. Who said my name just healthcare, then i think. Who said my name just a healthcare, then i think. Who said my name just a moment healthcare, then i think. Who said my name just a moment ago . Healthcare, then i think. Who said my name just a moment ago . It healthcare, then i think. Who said| my name just a moment ago . It was my name ust a moment ago . It was me, my name just a moment ago . It was me, my my name just a moment ago . It was me. Nicky ian, my name just a moment ago . It was me. Nicky ian, it my name just a moment ago . It was me, nicky. Ian, it was my name just a moment ago . It was me, nicky. 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Your phoneins are fantastic and you reach into and you reach into so many different people and you reach into so many different peoriie iaut and you reach into so many different peorrie but perhaps and you reach into so many different people but perhaps if and you reach into so many different people but perhaps if you and you reach into so many different people but perhaps if you were and you reach into so many different people but perhaps if you were able | people but perhaps if you were able to have people but perhaps if you were able to have a people but perhaps if you were able to have a seance people but perhaps if you were able to have a seance and people but perhaps if you were able to have a seance and Contact People but perhaps if you were able to have a seance and contact all to have a seance and contact all those to have a seance and contact all those that to have a seance and contact all those that have to have a seance and contact all those that have died, to have a seance and contact all those that have died, you to have a seance and contact allj those that have died, you would to have a seance and contact all those that have died, you would have millions those that have died, you would have millions of those that have died, you would have millions of people those that have died, you would have millions of people ringing those that have died, you would have millions of people ringing in those that have died, you would have millions of people ringing in or millions of people ringing in or contacting millions of people ringing in or Contacting You millions of people ringing in or Contacting You via, millions of people ringing in or Contacting You via, i millions of people ringing in or Contacting You via, i dont millions of people ringing in or. 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I am seeing a door we are joining hands, we are we arejoining hands, we are contacting the living, and nicky in coventry is one of them, what other think . ,. , think . So, basically if we are being realistic, this think . So, basically if we are being realistic, this is think . So, basically if we are being realistic, this is just think . So, basically if we are being realistic, this isjust another realistic, this isjust another thing realistic, this isjust another thing that they are going to do that is not thing that they are going to do that is not going to work. I100 agree, iwork is not going to work. I100 agree, i work in is not going to work. I100 agree, i work in Childrens Services and we hear i work in Childrens Services and we hear about i work in Childrens Services and we hear about children, six years old, seven hear about children, six years old, seven years hear about children, six years old, seven years old, vaping, which is absolutely. Never used to see a sixyearoid absolutely. Never used to see a six year old or seven year old smoking six year old or seven year old smoking but they are trying to reduce smoking but they are trying to reduce people smoking and it is causing reduce people smoking and it is causing other things. And when does it stop . Causing other things. And when does it stop . Everything has a consequence. You cant eat too many sweets, consequence. You cant eat too many sweets, you consequence. You cant eat too many sweets, you cant drink fizzy drinks because sweets, you cant drink fizzy drinks because you are going to get diabetes. You cant drink, it is not good diabetes. You cant drink, it is not good for diabetes. You cant drink, it is not good for your liver. When does it stop . Good for your liver. When does it stop . If good for your liver. When does it stop . If people want to smoke, if they are stop . If people want to smoke, if they are overan stop . If people want to smoke, if they are over an age and they can make they are over an age and they can make that they are over an age and they can make that decision, if youre old enough make that decision, if youre old enough to make that decision, if youre old enough to vote, then you are old enough enough to vote, then you are old enough to enough to vote, then you are old enough to smoke. But enough to vote, then you are old enough to smoke. Enough to vote, then you are old enough to smoke. But what about, it is so addictive enough to smoke. But what about, it is so addictive nikki. Enough to smoke. But what about, it is so addictive nikki. I enough to smoke. But what about, it is so addictive nikki. I feel is so addictive nikki. Ifeel like i am talking to myself it is so addictive nikki, let me put this to nikki and then i will let you back in, tracey. It is so addictive. I am nicky as well and i was an addict. It is so difficult and if you can stop young people getting hooked on this, you are going to save so much money. But hooked on this, you are going to save so much money. Hooked on this, you are going to save so much money. But we are already hooked save so much money. But we are already hooked on save so much money. But we are already hooked on the save so much money. But we are already hooked on the nicotine, l already hooked on the nicotine, nicky, that is the problem, the nicotine is the problem. You are auoin to nicotine is the problem. You are going to end nicotine is the problem. You are going to end up. Nicotine is the problem. You are going to end up. Wait, nicotine is the problem. You are i going to end up. Wait, everyone. Nikki . What going to end up. Wait, everyone. Nikki . What you going to end up. Wait, everyone. Nikki . What you are going to end up. Wait, everyone. Nikki . What you are going going to end up. Wait, everyone. Nikki . What you are going to going to end up. Wait, everyone. Nikki . What you are going to do i going to end up. Wait, everyone. Nikki . What you are going to do is| nikki . What you are going to do is end up nikki . What you are going to do is end up with, because you have hrought end up with, because you have brought these vapes into the mix, i dont brought these vapes into the mix, i dont remember vapes when i was at school, dont remember vapes when i was at school, i dont remember vapes when i was at school, i am dont remember vapes when i was at school, iam in dont remember vapes when i was at school, i am in my mid 40s, rightly or mirongo, school, i am in my mid 40s, rightly or mirongo, i school, i am in my mid 40s, rightly or mbongo, i dont remember vapes when or mbongo, i dont remember vapes when i or mbongo, i dont remember vapes when i was or mbongo, i dont remember vapes when i was at school. Never used to see kids when i was at school. Never used to See Kids Smoking Vapes when i was at schooi~ See Kids Smoking Vapes when i was at schooi~ but See Kids Smoking Vapes when i was at school. But now because we are trying school. But now because we are trying to school. But now because we are trying to reduce the people that smoke trying to reduce the people that smoke they have bought these vapes into the smoke they have bought these vapes into the mix that have got all these ioveiy into the mix that have got all these lovely flavours of watermelon and all this lovely flavours of watermelon and all this. ,. ,. ,. ,. All this. They are going to restrict the fiavours all this. They are going to restrict the flavours. They all this. They are going to restrict the flavours. They are all this. They are going to restrict the flavours. They are promoting | the flavours. They are promoting something the flavours. They are promoting something else, the flavours. They are promoting something else, not the flavours. They are promoting l something else, not intentionally, but at something else, not intentionally, but at the something else, not intentionally, but at the end of the day, everything is highly addictive. People everything is highly addictive. People that drink a lot of coca cola for example, it is hard for them to et for example, it is hard for them to get off for example, it is hard for them to get off it for example, it is hard for them to get off it because they will get a headacheif get off it because they will get a headache if they stop drinking coke. But at headache if they stop drinking coke. But at the headache if they stop drinking coke. But at the end of the day i think it makes but at the end of the day i think it makes sense to increase the cost of cigarettes, makes sense to increase the cost of cigarettes, like they did before, if someone cigarettes, like they did before, if someone still wants to smoke. £16 for 20 now. Someone still wants to smoke. For20 now, its someone still wants to smoke. £115 for 20 now, its incredible. Someone still wants to smoke. £16 for 20 now, its incredible. That someone still wants to smoke. £16 for 20 now, its incredible. That is i for 20 now, its incredible. That is what i for 20 now, its incredible. That is what i mean. For 20 now, its incredible. That is what i mean, if for 20 now, its incredible. That is what i mean, if you for 20 now, its incredible. That is what i mean, if you want for 20 now, its incredible. That is what i mean, if you want to for 20 now, its incredible. That is what i mean, if you want to go. For 20 now, its incredible. That is| what i mean, if you want to go and waste what i mean, if you want to go and waste of what i mean, if you want to go and waste of £16 on a box of flags in a cost crisis. Waste of £16 on a box of flags in a cost crisis, that is entirely up to you cost crisis, that is entirely up to you but cost crisis, that is entirely up to you. But youve got to be realistic. So, you. But youve got to be realistic. So. That you. But youve got to be realistic. So. That is you. But youve got to be realistic. So, that is the nudge. Tash in lincoln, as you say, you work in Public Health, you know how dangerous these evil Little Things are, dont you, tash . Dangerous these evil Little Things are, dont you, tash . Yes, and the comment about are, dont you, tash . Yes, and the comment about the are, dont you, tash . Yes, and the comment about the costoflivingl comment about the cost of living crisis, smoking disproportionately affects those with poor education, poor job affects those with poor education, poorjob prospects, poorer incomes, people who are addicted, we are then going to make them have an even greater strain on their budgets by basically allowing them to smoke. But argue, i basically allowing them to smoke. Butargue, i pay basically allowing them to smoke. But argue, i pay so much tax on it and stuff. The tax on a cigarette does not even come close to the cost of the healthcare that that person is going to require, if they have copd, if they have lung cancer. It is not even going to come close to it. And the people arguing about things, 10 of the National Health budget is spent on di botes. Fizzy drinks. We have to do something about this, it is just breaking the nhs system. On diabetes. Because of peoples life choices. Maybe we should say, if you are going to smoke, then you pay for your own healthcare. You suffer the consequences. Healthcare. You suffer the conseruences. ~. , ,. , consequences. Wow very draconian, we are going consequences. Wow very draconian, we are going down consequences. Wow very draconian, we are going down that consequences. Wow very draconian, we are going down that road consequences. Wow very draconian, we are going down that road of we are going down that road of draconian, to say pay for your health draconian, to say pay for your health now. Draconian, to say pay for your health now. Well, you make the choice to smoke, health now. Well, you make the choice to smoke, so health now. Well, you make the choice to smoke, so why health now. Well, you make the choice to smoke, so why should j choice to smoke, so why should everyone pay for it . Choice to smoke, so why should everyone pay for it . Could you tell me, i everyone pay for it . Could you tell me. I enjoy everyone pay for it . Could you tell me. I enjoy a everyone pay for it . Could you tell me. I enjoy a pint everyone pay for it . Could you tell me, i enjoy a pint with everyone pay for it . Could you tell me, i enjoy a pint with a everyone pay for it . Could you tell me, i enjoy a pint with a cigarette | me, i enjoy a pint with a Cigarette Outside me, i enjoy a pint with a Cigarette Outside. 0utside, me, i enjoy a pint with a Cigarette Outside. Outside, there is nothing better, outside. Outside, there is nothing better, from my personal point of view, better, from my personal point of view, being a smoker, i enjoy a pint with a view, being a smoker, i enjoy a pint with a cigarette. People come up to you and with a cigarette. People come up to you and say, with a cigarette. People come up to you and say, can you not smoke outside . You and say, can you not smoke outside . Well, why dont you go inside outside . Well, why dont you go inside then . You are making people like leprechauns . You inside then . You are making people like leprechauns . Like leprechauns . You are costing the nhs a lot like leprechauns . You are costing the nhs a lot of like leprechauns . You are costing the nhs a lot of money, like leprechauns . You are costing the nhs a lot of money, jason. I like leprechauns . You are costing l the nhs a lot of money, jason. This is the point. Office for budget responsibility say that Smoking Costs in england, this is, not scotland, 49. 2 billion pounds each year. And an additional 25. 9 million lost in quality adjusted life years due to premature death from smoking as well. I want to bring in louise In Addlestone. And kelly. Mar; as well. I want to bring in louise In Addlestone. And kelly. May be auttin In Addlestone. And kelly. May be putting extra In Addlestone. And kelly. May be putting extra on In Addlestone. And kelly. May be putting extra on the In Addlestone. And kelly. May be putting extra on the cigarettes, putting extra on the cigarettes, they should putting extra on the cigarettes, they should give putting extra on the cigarettes, they should give that putting extra on the cigarettes, they should give that to putting extra on the cigarettes, they should give that to the. I putting extra on the cigarettes, j they should give that to the. L they should give that to the. [ ust they should give that to the. Just wanted to say one thing. Havent just wanted to say one thing. I havent smoked since the year 2000, this is driving me back to it louise In Addlestone, kelly and sittingbourne. Wait a minute, everyone, i want to just impose a little bit of calm in the situation and bring in louise In Addlestone and bring in louise In Addlestone and kelly and sittingbourne. Good morning, both of you. I am and kelly and sittingbourne. Good morning, both of you. And kelly and sittingbourne. Good morning, both of you. I am a smoker and i morning, both of you. I am a smoker and not morning, both of you. I am a smoker and i got three morning, both of you. I am a smoker and i got three children morning, both of you. I am a smoker and i got Three Children Born morning, both of you. I am a smoker and i got Three Children Born after. And i got Three Children Born after the year 2013, but i do not want my children smoking, because i cant quit. And i 100 agree with the band. Because ive always said to my kids, never, eversmoke. Ifollowed my parents, smoke since i was 13, i agree with it because i think it is terrible, ijust do not want my kids smoking. And they get the choice taken away from them, that is great, i think, personally. Taken away from them, that is great, ithink, personally. Because i taken away from them, that is great, i think, personally. Because i dont want them to smoke. This i think, personally. Because i dont want them to smoke. Want them to smoke. This is kelly from sittingbourne. Want them to smoke. This is kelly from sittingbourne. I want them to smoke. This is kelly from sittingbourne. I think want them to smoke. This is kelly i from sittingbourne. I think anything you tran from sittingbourne. I think anything you ban creates an element of criminality, because it then Goes Underground like probation in america. Underground like probation in america, when you ban smoking, it goes america, when you ban smoking, it Goes Underground, like drugs. Wait a minute. Goes underground, like drugs. Wait a minute let Goes Underground, like drugs. Wait a minute. Let me Goes Underground, like drugs. Wait a minute. Let me just Goes Underground, like drugs. Wait a minute. Let me just explore Goes Underground, like drugs. Wait a minute. Let me just explore this minute. Let me just explore this with kelly. They are not banning it, they are stopping young people getting addicted to it. So you, for the rest of your long and happy life, kelly, will be able to buy cigarettes. Life, kelly, will be able to buy cigarettes life, kelly, will be able to buy ciuarettes. �. , �. , cigarettes. But i dont care about that, i cigarettes. But i dont care about that. I care cigarettes. But i dont care about that, i care about cigarettes. But i dont care about that, i care about it, cigarettes. But i dont care about that, i care about it, it cigarettes. But i dont care about that, i care about it, it will cigarettes. But i dont care about that, i care about it, it will go that, i care about it, it will go underground, if kids cant get hold of it, underground, if kids cant get hold of it. They underground, if kids cant get hold of it, they will get hold of it. If you say of it, they will get hold of it. If you say dont do something, they will do you say dont do something, they will do it you say dont do something, they will do it. Because that is the nature will do it. Because that is the nature of will do it. Because that is the nature of children, and they are going nature of children, and they are going to nature of children, and they are going to grow up with it. And there will be going to grow up with it. And there will be a going to grow up with it. And there will be a criminal element to it. Louise. Will be a criminal element to it. Louise, what did you save . The arents louise, what did you save . The parents should louise, what did you save . Tie parents should be louise, what did you save . Tte parents should be telling louise, what did you save . Tt9 parents should be telling them not to smoke a do you tell your kids not to smoke a do you tell your kids not to smoke . 100 . But to smoke a do you tell your kids not to smoke . 100 . To smoke . 100 . But you tell your kids not to smoke . 100 . But you tell your kids rrot to to smoke . 100 . But you tell your kids rrot to do to smoke . 100 . But you tell your kids not to do stuff to smoke . 100 . But you tell your kids not to do stuff and to smoke . 100 . But you tell your kids not to do stuff and they to smoke . 100 . But you tell your kids not to do stuff and they do kids not to do stuff and they do things kids not to do stuff and they do thins. , , � kids not to do stuff and they do things so things. No, they dont. So everything things. No, they dont. So everything you things. No, they dont. So everything you tell things. No, they dont. So everything you tell them, | things. No, they dont. So everything you tell them, they do . Well, everything you tell them, they do . Well, they everything you tell them, they do . Well, they are only ten and. So they listen at the minute. Thea;r well, they are only ten and. So they listen at the minute. They will make u they listen at the minute. They will make up their they listen at the minute. They will make up their own they listen at the minute. They will make up their own minds they listen at the minute. They will make up their own minds and they listen at the minute. They will make up their own minds and if they listen at the minute. They will. Make up their own minds and if they want to make up their own minds and if they want to smoke they will get these itiegai want to smoke they will get these illegal cigarettes which are on the market illegal cigarettes which are on the market anyway. That illegal cigarettes which are on the market anyway. Market anyway. That is true, contraband market anyway. That is true, Contraband Flooding market anyway. That is true, Contraband Flooding the market anyway. That is true, i Contraband Flooding the market, illegal cigarettes, that is a very important point. Let me ask you, louise, you are an addict, are you . A cigarette addicts, 100 , i cant quit. I have tried patches, everything, i cannot quit. So. What does it feel like when you dont have a cigarette for a few hours or for a day dont have a cigarette for a few hours orfor a day or dont have a cigarette for a few hours or for a day or whatever . Dont have a cigarette for a few hours orfor a day or whatever . A, hours or for a day or whatever . Few hours, even with a patch on, its impossible to quit. Ijust find its impossible to quit. Ijust find it impossible, cant do it. Its awful. You feel angry, frustrated, it is just horrible. I last about two days with the patches and then i just go back to smoking. I smoke in the garden, not around the kids but i tell my kids constantly, dont smoke. I have been smoking since 13. I would love to quit but i cant. How many do you smoke a day . Gardening obviously because they are getting more expensive, i am on the roll ups, lasts about three days, a packet of roll ups. And that is quite a lot, really. A few years back when i was helping people give up back when i was helping people give up smoking it is much better to be on a programme with other people that are giving up smoking. But t that are giving up smoking. But i cant aet that are giving up smoking. But i cant get hold that are giving up smoking. But i cant get hold of that are giving up smoking. But i cant get hold of that that are giving up smoking. But i cant get hold of that type of thing at the cant get hold of that type of thing at the moment where i live. It is ust at the moment where i live. It is just all at the moment where i live. It is just all single, on your own, you can get just all single, on your own, you can get vouchers of the internet, there can get vouchers of the internet, there isnt can get vouchers of the internet, there isnt that support for people to give there isnt that support for people to give up there isnt that support for people to give up smoking. In there isnt that support for people to give up smoking. There isnt that support for people to give up smoking. In one aspect of this is disbursement to give up smoking. In one aspect of this is Disbursement My to give up smoking. In one aspect of this is Disbursement My money, to give up smoking. In one aspect of this is Disbursement My money, to i this is Disbursement My money, to councils, for Cessation Programmes have been cut as well. I councils, for Cessation Programmes have been cut as well. Have been cut as well. I tried to rive u have been cut as well. I tried to give up and have been cut as well. I tried to give up and i have been cut as well. I tried to give up and i cant. Have been cut as well. I tried to give up and i cant. I have been cut as well. I tried to give up and i cant. I need have been cut as well. I tried to give up and i cant. I need a give up and i cant. I need a cessation programme, and i used to run it. , ,. , cessation programme, and i used to run it not cessation programme, and i used to| run it not bad. Run it. Ethan, how are you . Not bad, ourself . Run it. Ethan, how are you . Not bad, yourself . I run it. Ethan, how are you . Not bad, yourself . I am run it. Ethan, how are you . Not bad, yourself . I am not run it. Ethan, how are you . Not bad, yourself . I am not bad, run it. Ethan, how are you . Not bad, yourself . I am not bad, it run it. Ethan, how are you . Not bad, yourself . I am not bad, it is run it. Ethan, how are you . Not bad, yourself . I am not bad, it is a yourself . I am not bad, it is a hectic old yourself . I am not bad, it is a hectic old morning yourself . I am not bad, it is a hectic old morning but yourself . I am not bad, it is a hectic old morning but when i yourself . I am not bad, it is a l hectic old morning but when we discuss this, it always is. And it is extra busy, thanks to liz. Liz truss, saying this is madness. Boris johnson, saying this is bonkers. It is impractical and it is illiberal. Ethan, what you think . Is impractical and it is illiberal. Ethan, what you think . Well, i am 21 ears old ethan, what you think . Well, i am 21 years old and ethan, what you think . Well, i am 21 years old and vaping, ethan, what you think . Well, i am 21 years old and vaping, cigarettes ethan, what you think . Well, i am 21 years old and vaping, cigarettes go l years old and vaping, cigarettes go that sort of thing has been quite prominent in my friendship circle. The thing is, it is a slippery slope. My friends started off with vaping because it was 20, it was seen as a cool thing to do, but they have become so nicotine dependent and vaping has become so expensive that they are actually turning to more traditional cigarettes to get their fix. More traditional cigarettes to get theirfix. I think more traditional cigarettes to get their fix. I think that it should be cut off from a certain age, definitely. The public cant be trusted to make the decision for their own health, then it should be respected. Their own health, then it should be resected. ~ , , their own health, then it should be resected. ,. , , their own health, then it should be resected. ~ ,. , , respected. What a thing to say the ublic, he respected. What a thing to say the public. He said. Respected. What a thing to say the public, he said, being respected. What a thing to say the public, he said, being a respected. What a thing to say the public, he said, being a devils public, he said, being a devils advocate. The public cannot be trusted to make their own choices . this is what the representative earlier on defending smoking said. This is infantilised in us, treating us like children, that we can be trusted to make aaron choices, what are you saying ethan . Are you saying ethan . Well. it is uuite a are you saying ethan . Well. it is quite a difficult are you saying ethan . Well. it is quite a difficult position are you saying ethan . Well. it is quite a difficult position to quite a difficult position to explain when youre trying to restrict peoples, i wouldnt say freedom, but Freedom Of Choice. It is a product that kills you. It is a product that affects our nhs, when people are trained off the illnesses that they get from the product. We shouldnt be selling this in our shops on our shelves, quite friendly. Shops on our shelves, quite friendl. , ~ , shops on our shelves, quite friendl. , friendly. Quite frankly. So alcohol should friendly. Quite frankly. So alcohol should be friendly. 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I think when you have had a cigarette . I think it when you have had a cigarette . I think it needs when you have had a cigarette . I think it needs to when you have had a cigarette . I think it needs to be when you have had a cigarette . I think it needs to be people when you have had a cigarette . I. Think it needs to be people making that age. Think it needs to be people making that age. 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It has to be enforced on the shops as well because there j on the shops as well because there is so on the shops as well because there is so many on the shops as well because there is so many flags on the shops as well because there is so many flags being on the shops as well because there is so many flags being sold on the shops as well because there is so many flags being sold under. Is so many flags being sold under the market is so many flags being sold under the market in is so many flags being sold under the market is so many flags being sold under the market. ,. , the market. In the next hour i want to hear from the market. In the next hour i want to hear from retailers the market. In the next hour i want to hear from retailers as the market. In the next hour i want to hear from retailers as well. I the market. In the next hour i want to hear from retailers as well. Who | to hearfrom retailers as well. Who thinks, of the people on the line at the moment, that this is an infringement of liberty . Yeah. Yeah. Who said yet . Infringement of liberty . Yeah. Yeah. Who said yet . Kelly. Infringement of liberty . Yeah. Yeah. Who said yet . Kelly. But infringement of liberty . Yeah. Yeah. Who said yet . Kelly. But what i infringement of liberty . Yeah. Yeah. Who said yet . Kelly. But what about| who said yet . Kelly. But what about chris whittys who said yet . Kelly. But what about chris whittys argument, the chief medical officer, against kelly and sittingbourne, i would medical officer, against kelly and sittingbourne, iwould pay medical officer, against kelly and sittingbourne, i would pay to see that one, he says if you get Addicted To Smoking, because it is so addictive, youre actually having your Freedom Of Choice taken away from you, because you are an addict and you have no choice but to stretch for the packet and light up and have another cigarette . I think i know nicotine and have another cigarette . I think i know nicotine and and have another cigarette . I think i know nicotine and i and have another cigarette . I think i know nicotine and i have and have another cigarette . I think i know nicotine and i have tried i and have another cigarette . I think i know nicotine and i have tried the j i know nicotine and i have tried the vapes, which cause indigestion sol went back to the cigarettes. But i do think it is the nicotine and that is why the nicotine replacement therapy should be put in, loads of support behind these people, to give up support behind these people, to give up smoking. And gradually come off it, and that is the only way it is going to work. It, and that is the only way it is going to work it, and that is the only way it is going to work. That is the only way ou sa it going to work. That is the only way you say it is going to work. That is the only way you say it is going going to work. That is the only way you say it is going to going to work. That is the only way you say it is going to work. Going to work. That is the only way you say it is going to work. Its i you say it is going to work. Its always very busy. We are carrying this on on the radio and radio 5 live. It is something you need to have your say on. Thank you to our viewers on bbc news, bbc two, for watching. Live from london, this is bbc news. Rishi sunak is expected to urge restraint when he speaks to his israeli counterpart Benjamin Netanyahu today after israel vows retaliation over irans attack. A developing story out of denmark the scene as firefighters battle a blaze engulfing the Old Stock Exchange one of the oldest buildings in copenhagen. In the uk, members of parliament are to debate a smoking ban for future generations in what would be a world first. And dozens of prospective jurors in new york are dismissed amid impartiality concerns as Donald Trumps hush money criminal trial gets under way. 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