more quickly tojustice. matt graveling, bbc news. joining me now is ruth davison, the chief executive of the domestic abuse charity refuge. welcome to bbc news, that afternoon. an epidemic of violence. i was very struck by that phrase. what do you make of this report?— struck by that phrase. what do you make of this report? yes, thanks for havint me make of this report? yes, thanks for having me on- _ make of this report? yes, thanks for having me on- i— make of this report? yes, thanks for having me on. i agree _ make of this report? yes, thanks for having me on. i agree it— make of this report? yes, thanks for having me on. i agree it is— make of this report? yes, thanks for having me on. i agree it is a - make of this report? yes, thanks for having me on. i agree it is a really. having me on. i agree it is a really striking phrase but not a surprise to us at refuge. we no prosecution rates are at an all—time low and we know the police are repeatedly failing women and girls so we welcome this report, we welcome the very strong positive recommendations, and our main take is we want to see positive action result from it. there has been a lot of works, a lot of conversation. but what women and girls need is action. how optimistic can you be that they will be positive action, that this will be positive action, that this will be positive action, that this will be a real moment of change and this is notjust another report that