From all angles. We had an Access Problem where we needed technical Ropes Rescue to get down into the gill, logistical problems to get all the gear up with limited people. And then medically, quite a difficult challenge in rescue in difficult Winter Conditions and in a gale with water and in a gill with water flowing all around. In the last eight years, there have been four deaths and a0 rescues, some involving serious injuries. Volunteers say its too easy to take a wrong turn, as Ben Longton did. Do you think having signage up there would have prevented some of the fatalities and serious injuries that youve seen on Piers Gill . Yes, undoubtedly. I would be loath to see a lot of signage, but i think there are points where because specifically on Scafell Pike, the topography tends to draw people one way or another at specific points, i think it could be really helpful. The landowner, the national trust, though, is reluctant. It says signs on Scafell Pike would set a precedent for elsewhere