the lead. europeans now coming to the lead. europeans now coming to the fore, macon and moscow at the moment talking about what security things they might offer, but at the end of the day, it is the united states that runs nato, or as a senior partner in nato, and if there is going to be a solution clearly the russians need to be talking to americans, don't they? that the russians need to be talking to americans, don't they?— americans, don't they? at some oint, americans, don't they? at some point. yes. _ americans, don't they? at some point. yes. and _ americans, don't they? at some point, yes, and that _ americans, don't they? at some point, yes, and that has - americans, don't they? at some point, yes, and that has to - americans, don't they? at some point, yes, and that has to do i americans, don't they? at some l point, yes, and that has to do with russian _ point, yes, and that has to do with russian threat perceptions from moscow. — russian threat perceptions from moscow, its united states and the military— moscow, its united states and the military capabilities that keep focus on the russian stuff up at night _ focus on the russian stuff up at night as— focus on the russian stuff up at night as much as anything else, so yes, some — night as much as anything else, so yes, some point the us or the party if this— yes, some point the us or the party if this is— yes, some point the us or the party if this is going to be a settlement, that said. — if this is going to be a settlement, that said, the european allies can play important roles in all of this, so, in _ play important roles in all of this, so, in that— play important roles in all of this, so, in that context, as long as there — so, in that context, as long as there is— so, in that context, as long as there is coordination, micron's initiative — there is coordination, micron's initiative can certainly be useful.