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BBCNEWS Outside Source January 12, 2021

They will take tougher action against those who do not comply with coronavirus restrictions. We will play you a devastating report that has revealed around 9000 children died in more than a dozen so called mother and baby homes in ireland over eight decades, extending into the 20th century. This is the ugandan opposition, he says soldiers raided his home and arrested his Security Guards. This is as uganda prepares to vote. We will be live there. Donald trump has left the white house for the First Time Since his supporters ransacked the capitol last week. Hes visiting alamo in texas, to see the barrier thats being built along the border with mexico. Well update on that visit in a minute first the the house of representatives, the lower house of congress, is preparing to vote on a motion calling on Vice President mike pence to remove donald trump from office. If mr pence declines, they will move toward impeach a president the first time a president would have been impeached twice. Heres what President Trump said as he left for texas we want no violence, never violence. We want absolutely no violence. And on the impeachments, its really a continuation of the greatest witchhunt in the history of politics. Its ridiculous. Its absolutely ridiculous. This impeachment is causing tremendous anger, and theyre doing it, and its really a terrible thing that theyre doing. For nancy pelosi and Chuck Schumer to continue on this path, i think its causing tremendous danger to our country, and its causing tremendous anger. I want no violence. Thank you very much. Thank you, everybody. So that was donald trump a little while ago. Lets have a look at some of the pictures coming in from texas. These are supporters waiting to greet President Trump in texas. He is there to emphasise his policies on immigration from his particular policy around the border wall, although that border is not being completed, nowhere near, something that the president said would happen if he were elected in 2016. Gary 0donoghue is in washington. Hejoins us now. What did you make up hejoins us now. What did you make up what the president said . Welcome i think up what the president said . Welcome ithinka up what the president said . Welcome i think a few people would be surprised. A lot of people will think this is the president doing the thing that he does, effectively denying what a lot of people think is the obvious. Certainly taking no responsibility for what happened last week. Suggesting a kind of political dog whistle way which will worried people, that maybe there is a lot of anger out there at the attem pts a lot of anger out there at the atte m pts to a lot of anger out there at the attempts to impeach him. Now, a lot of people will say that that is a dog whistle to his supporters to be angry, which, of course, is what he said to them last week. Dont be weak, go up there, make your presence felt. And that is what led, of course, at least proceeded, those attacks on the capital. Presumably, for all the condemnation, theres not really a great deal he can do to influence whether this impeachment proceeds are not. He could resign. That would stop the impeachment in its tracks. Im pretty sure about that. Thats an option to him, thats what Richard Nixon did in 1974, of course, when he knew impeachment was about to happen. The republican senators went to him and said the time is up. He resigned. That would be an option for the president. He seems unlikely that he would consider that. The on the option or the way he would consider resignation is this business of a pardon. You know, that is one way of him potentially getting his Vice President to pardon him of any future prosecutions. Thats what happened to nixon, gerald ford pardoned nixon once he became president. But, of course come ford sought his saw his populated go through the floor as soon as he had done that. In terms of mr trumps relationship with their public and party, that may be relevant if impeachment does begin. How are you reading the reaction of Senior Republicans in the last few days . Well, look, there have been some republican senators who have come out and said that he should resign. Some have hinted that they might vote for an impeachment process. Some of those more moderate republicans who are up for election soon, people like Susan Collins, lisa makowski, they are not up for election at the moment, in fact, Susan Collins just won her seat again, didnt she . So that may be possible. Mitt romney from utah come he voted for one of those articles of impeachment last time around. I think in terms of the house, the vote in the house which could take place tomorrow, there have been some hints from some republicans that they might go with that. It would be a handful at most, i think, they might go with that. It would be a handful at most, ithink, if they might go with that. It would be a handful at most, i think, if they did. But democrats would love that because they would be able to say there was some bipartisan elements to its, which of course, there wasnt enough last time around. 0k, gary, thank you so much indeed. Gary out in the street in washington, dc. Lets be clear. Only three president s have been impeached and donald trump is already one of them. The Us Constitution allows congress to remove president s if enough lawmakers vote to say they committed treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors. But there are other options. The 25th amendment allows the Vice President and cabinet to remove the president. Democratic house leader nancy pelosi has already asked for this to be invoked, thats whats being debated today. But Vice President pence has signalled he will not do it which leaves, impeachment, where charges are brought to the house and can be passed in a simple majority vote. The case is then passed to the senate for a trial, where a two thirds vote is necessary for a president s removal. Last time, in 2019, the democratic led house impeached donald trump then the Republican Majority Senate acquitted him. Lets be clear there is the 14th amendment, which bars a president from office if he is found to have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the constitution. That debate is getting heated. Here is the chair of the house rules committee, a democrat withjim jordan, a republican who voted against recognising some of the 20 20 president ial election results. That is not the question i asked. I asked you to lay bare the fact that this light out there that i asked you to lay bare the fact that this lie out there that somehowjoe biden did not win the election fair and square. He did. The president to this day continues to perpetrate that. And so. Are you saying there were no problems . There were no concerns . Is that what you are saying, mrchairman . Of course i understand joe biden won, but are you saying there are no concerns with this election . Heres an example of what theyre talking about, this is donald trump speaking last wednesday we will never give up, we will never concede. It doesnt happen. You dont concede when there is theft involved. Cheering. Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore. Hours later, members of that crowd marched to the Capitol Building and this was the scene that unfolded. Trump supporters broke through police lines and invaded congress, five people died during the riot including a police officer. Today donald trump defended his speech what is your role in what happened at the capital . What is your personal responsibility . So, if you read my speech, and many people have done it, and i have seen it both in the papers and in the media, on television, its been analysed, and people thought that what i said was totally appropriate. And if you look at what other people have said, politicians at a high level, about the riots during the summer, the horrible riots in portland and seattle and various other places, that was a real problem, what they said. But they have analysed my speech into my words and my final paragraph, my final sentence, and everybody thought it was totally appropriate. 0k . Thank you. Donald trump and mike pence didnt speak for days after the capitol 0ne one key part of the speech last week was a message to mike pence, his Vice President. He was pressurising him to block the certification of joe biden is the winner of the election by invoking powers that the Vice President did not possess. Heres a bit more of what President Trump told a crowd of his supporters last wednesday all Vice President pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify, and we become president and you are the happiest people. Well, they werent happy. They marched on the Capitol Building, as you know. Cccording to this article in the indpendent, donald trump never bothered to cheque on the Vice President s safety as mike pence spent hours in a secure holding area with his staff and family as the rioters chanted about wanting to hang him outside the capitol doors. According to reports, they didnt speakfor according to reports, they didnt speak for days after that, but yesterday, monday, they did have a meeting in degree that donald trump should be allowed to finish his term ending next week, january the 20th. Thats the day ofjoe bidens inauguration. After last week, as would imagine, washington remains on high alert ahead of presidect elect joe bidens inauguration, following the events of last week. Donald trump has signed an emergency orderfor washington dc which allows for the National Guard to be deployed to protect key buildings. More than 6000 troops are already in the city as many as 15,000 could be on duty by wednesday of next week. Questions still remain about how the Trump Supporters were able to break through police lines to enter the Capital Building last week. On that, here is the former director of homeland security, michael. Capital police really failed to take adequate steps to prepare for what was a very foreseeable and dangerous event. Anybody who saw what was being reported about online threats and even what donald trump was saying publicly knew there was a substantial risk that people would try and interfere with the vote certification on january 6th. In the barriers they put up were pathetically small if you compare them to what was put up outside the white house over the summer. They were willfully underprepared in terms of personnel. They apparentley did not reach out to the National Guard in advance, and there was very little planning for this kind of event, and that is a serious security lapse, which i think has resulted in some people being fired. In the uk, Police Forces are warning they will take tougher action against those who do not comply with coronavirus restrictions, with one police chief describing them as dangerous, selfish and totally irresponsible. The home secretary, priti patel, has thanked the majority of people for complying with the rules, but blamed a minority who she said were putting the health of the nation at risk. Heres our home editor mark easton. Visitors arent welcome on the seaside, peaked caps patrolling the shoreline. With people restricted, the rats are enjoying new freedoms. This tourist town doesnt want non locals coming for a constitutional. They shouldnt be coming. They have to define what local is. I heard that they are going from downing street to the olympic park. What irritates me is that i hear minister after minister saying, dont go out. But they dont follow it except for exercise. The news that the towns capital is struggling to cope, close to running out of oxygen yesterday, has contributed to the sense of emergency. Most people do seem to be obeying the rules. Southend looks like a place in lockdown. It feels as though the mood has changed. In the last couple of days, police say they will be quicker to fine rule breakers. There is strong public support for tougher enforcement and tighter restrictions, as the appeals from Health Professionals become ever more desperate. We need to really focus on what the enforcement issues are. If the legislation was a lot tighter, it would make it a lot easier for our colleagues in the police force to enforce what we are asking them to do. The home secretary warned that we may be facing a Health Service catastrophe. So why are the rules of this lockdown not as tough as they were last spring . The rules are actually very simple and clear. We are meant to stay at home and only leave home for a very limited number of reasons. That didnt answer the question, of course. The concern is not about the clarity of the rules, but their strength. Police say people who flagrantly break the law, like these illegal gatherings in london, can expect heavy fines. Because of the lack of engagement from people here, you are probably going to end up with up to a £10,000 fine. 0ur successful staged enforcement approach remains, but we will not linger on encouragement for those who are choosing to break the rules. The rules are clear, and we need to abide by them if we are going to protect the nhs unsafe peoples lives. If we are going to protect the nhs and save peoples lives. Psychologists say getting people to obey the rules may have less to do with confronting lawbreakers and more the focus on those who are following the guidance. If you tell people, everybody is doing this, stop it, actually, everybody hears that people are hearing the everybody is doing it. And people think, if everybody is doing it, why shouldnt i . And it undermines the behaviour. Positive tests in southend have been falling in the past week, but 55 people have also died from the disease, an increase of 53 . What happens next is a matter of life and death. Mark easton, bbc news, southend. Now a full global update on the pandemic for you. Were seeing spikes in cases and new lockdowns in a numberof countries. And the so called uk strain which we know is more transmissible is being held in part responsible. Its now been identified in 49 countries. These 16 countries have whats called Community Transmission of the uk strain this means its spreading through the population and and tracking it in detail is not possible. Many of those countries are in western europe they include the uk, ireland, germany, france and italy. Its also in the us, canada, russia and the phillipnes. Then theres another 33 countries with recorded cases where people have arrived with the variant rather than it being caught locally. There is though, of course, the possiility of local transmission. And if thats the uk variant, theres also the south africa variant. Its known to be in 15 countries four have Community Transmission south africa, zambia, botswana and the uk the other 11 have imported cases only. 0ne place that has seen a dramatic rise in cases is ireland. In fact, there have been more people infected in ireland in the last seven days than were infected from march to october. That black vertical line is the beginning of 2021. As you can see the number of cases per million of the population has surged since then. And the countrys seven day rolling average is 1,394 cases per million of population to put that in context the uk is at 810, europe as a whole is at 335. To reiterate irelands is four times hiugher than that. Many in ireland are blaming the spread on the new, more tranismissable variant, but heres the whos dr michael ryan on that. In my own country, in ireland, which has suffered a massive increase in cases over the last number of weeks, have done extremely well in two surges of disease, had brought the disease under control and suffered one of the most acute increases in disease incidence of any country in the world over the last number of months, and not due to the variant, let me out, but mainly due to increased social mixing and reduction of physical distancing. The government and the authorities there have taken, and the community, have taken immediate action over the last two weeks, and already, we are starting to see disease number starting to drop, the Positivity Rate starting to drop. Ireland is, of course, a much smaller country than most within europe. It has a population ofjust 4. 9m. And despite their cases per million being the highest, its only at 6,400 per day based on a seven day average. Compare that to their closest neighbours, the uk, that has a population of 66. 6m. And a seven day average of over 57,000 new daily cases dr Shane Mckeogh is a gp in dublin and one of the organisers of the gp tracker an online tracker in which gps have tracked cases as they are identified in their practises. Hejoins us now. Thank you he joins us now. Thank you very much for joining he joins us now. Thank you very much forjoining us. I Must Immediately ask you, do you agree with Michael Ryans analysis that this huge surge we are seeing is driven just by a change in behaviour . Thanks for having me on. I think we probably think there are a few aspects to this. I think at the moment, there are probably three things leading to this dramatic surge in ireland. 0ne is the seasonality of the coronavirus having to be active this time of year, the second one is the change in the socialising that happened in ireland. We are social people, when the last restrictions ended getting of december, a lot of people went out, met friends, family, a lot of people felt it was safe at that time. And unfortunately commit propagated the virus quite quickly. At the third aspect is probably uk variant. The latest analysis of that in the last number of hours suggest its more than what was initially expected, probably in the region of 40 of cases they looked out now look to be part of that new variant. Its deftly part of the picture, but there are multiple factors here. The graphic i was showing before introduced to show the huge spike in infections commit was a national picture, but doesnt mirror what you are seeing . Yes, it does. We have been runn

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