social media platforms are now much more engaged in supporting the monetisation of good, factual, engaging, unbiased news and information on social media sites, they've done lots and lots of deals. so there are monetisation models now to enable us to solve this really key problem of this under—supply of trusted news and information on social media and other digital platforms. we are starting on a journey here. ok, well, look, we talked earlier about some of the difficult editorial policy—making decisions around a bomb attack. let's talk with you about other thorny decisions being made — the bbc has just pulled out of stonewall�*s diversity champions programme, the scheme where the charity gives advice on inclusive workspaces. is your new organisation signed up? no, we've not had that conversation. we are very small and just starting. i think your approach to these things is to listen