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And said. Him and tapped him on his shoulder and said. I him and tapped him on his shoulder and said, i think i am the shooters father~ and said, i think i am the shooters father~ he and said, i think i am the shooters father. He took me underneath the tape father. He took me underneath the tape. Detectives said, we will go over here tape. Detectives said, we will go over here and ask some questions. I still over here and ask some questions. I stilt doht over here and ask some questions. I still dont know how many people are kitted. Still dont know how many people are kitted. How still dont know how many people are killed, how many people are injured, i killed, how many people are injured, i dont killed, how many people are injured, i dont know killed, how many people are injured, i dont know if andy is Dead Or Alive i dont know if andy is Dead Or Alive im i dont know if andy is Dead Or Alive. Im asking about andy, do not getting alive. Im asking about andy, do not getting any alive. Im asking about andy, do not getting any responses. They go, lets take getting any responses. They go, lets take a break for a little white lets take a break for a little white so lets take a break for a little while. So i get in the car, and i et while. So i get in the car, and i get up while. So i get in the car, and i get upto while. So i get in the car, and i get up to the second stop light, and i get up to the second stop light, and i had get up to the second stop light, and i had the get up to the second stop light, and i had the radio on, and it comes across i had the radio on, and it comes across that i had the radio on, and it comes across that two kids were killed and 13 others across that two kids were killed and 13 others were wounded, and ijust broke 13 others were wounded, and ijust broke down. I wailed in pain. My heart broke down. I wailed in pain. My heart was broke down. I wailed in pain. My heart was aching. It was a day ofjust waiting and waiting i not understanding what was happening, not knowing if dylan was alive or dead, not knowing if he had really hurt other people or if this was all kind of twisted mistake. All day long ijust kept asking the police over and over again, wheres my son, is my son dead . Late in the afternoon, one of them sent to me, yes he is. We got to ourFamily Members house that night, and they had the television on. The news media was beginning to talk about how many people were killed, how many were injured. There was still confusion. Ijust remember groaning, confusion. I just remember groaning, i confusion. Ijust remember groaning, i was literally groaning. And my Family Member said to her husband, turnit Family Member said to her husband, turn it off. I Family Member said to her husband, turn it off. Ull turn it off. I saw the detective ull in, turn it off. I saw the Detective Pull in. And turn it off. I saw the Detective Pull in, and he turn it off. I saw the Detective Pull in, and he was turn it off. I saw the Detective Pull in, and he was going turn it off. I saw the Detective Pull in, and he was going to l turn it off. I saw the detective i pull in, and he was going to take turn it off. I saw the Detective Pull in, and he was going to take me down pull in, and he was going to take me down to pull in, and he was going to take me down to the pull in, and he was going to take me down to the San Diego County sheriffs down to the San Diego County Sheriffs Department. They said, you may want Sheriffs Department. They said, you may want to duck your head. There were may want to duck your head. There were cameras that they were putting iiliit were cameras that they were putting right up were cameras that they were putting right up to were cameras that they were putting right up to the window of the police car and right up to the window of the police car and saying, right up to the window of the police carand saying, are right up to the window of the police car and saying, are you the father, are you car and saying, are you the father, are you the car and saying, are you the father, are you the father of the shooter . There are you the father of the shooter . There was are you the father of the shooter . There was no way we can avoid them. There was no way we can avoid them. The officer there was no way we can avoid them. The officer asked me some questions about the officer asked me some questions about my the officer asked me some questions about my guns and ammunition, and i had my about my guns and ammunition, and i had my pistit about my guns and ammunition, and i had my pistil that i used. They were only used had my pistil that i used. They were only used for hunting or Target Shooting only used for hunting or Target Shooting. The whole time we were there. Shooting. The whole time we were there. We shooting. The whole time we were there, we never took out our guns, we never there, we never took out our guns, we never took out or did any shootihg~ we never took out or did any shooting. Being a single parent, there shooting. Being a single parent, there were times that andy was home alone, there were times that andy was home atone, ahd there were times that andy was home alone, and at the daytime he might be home alone, and at the daytime he might be home alone sometimes and there was a be home alone sometimes and there was a rash be home alone sometimes and there was a rash of robberies, so he did know was a rash of robberies, so he did know where was a rash of robberies, so he did know where the gun for the cabinet was. Know where the gun for the cabinet was the know where the gun for the cabinet was. The whole point was to go, teave was. The whole point was to go, leave me was. The whole point was to go, leave me alone, take the guns, get out of leave me alone, take the guns, get out of here leave me alone, take the guns, get out of here. So he still knew where i out of here. So he still knew where i kept out of here. So he still knew where i kept the out of here. So he still knew where i kept the key. They continued to ask about, i kept the key. They continued to ask about, you know, guns and ammunition, and i said, i dont know where ammunition, and i said, i dont know where he ammunition, and i said, i dont know where he got ammunition, and i said, i dont know where he got the ammunition. I didnt where he got the ammunition. I didnt have where he got the ammunition. I didnt have any in there, i thought we had didnt have any in there, i thought we had shut didnt have any in there, i thought we had shut it all when we went out in the we had shut it all when we went out in the desert. For we had shut it all when we went out in the desert in the desert. For months i was in denial. In the desert. For months i was in denial they in the desert. For months i was in denial. They said in the desert. For months i was in denial. They said that in the desert. For months i was in denial. They said that the in the desert. For months i was in denial. They said that the boys i in the desert. For months i was in | denial. They said that the boys did all these terrible things, that they not only killed and hurt people, but they will say awful racist things and sadistic things, and ijust shut that out of my mind, i said dylan would not say anything like that. They had got so much information wrong about dylan and our family that i began to settle into the Belief System that they were wrong about what dylan did. It took six months for the police to make a report of what had happened. They allowed us to go in privately and meet with the sheriffs representatives there, and they gave a presentation on what happened. And for the first time, i got it. I saw that it was planned. I saw video tapes that they had made. I saw dylan in a way that i had never seen him before. They were talking about what they were going to do. It showed him with weapons. It was horrifying to see him in that mode. I had been grieving so much for this lost, precious child, and remembering who he was, and that was the point that i realised who he was to everyone else in the world. Everything died in my world. God died. I believe in truth, my belief in what ourfamily died. I believe in truth, my belief in what our family was, my belief in who dylan was, everything was torn apart. The person that i thought i was no longer existed. I thought i was no longer existed. I thought i was a good mum, i thought i had raise responsible kids who were kind and loving and charitable, and everything was gone, everything. My belief in everything was gone. My son, dylan, who was 17 years old, and his friend eric who was 18 went to Columbine High School with the intention of killing everyone in the school and destroying the school. And if there is any gratitude i feel in this whole process, it is that they failed to do that. But what they failed to do that. But what they did do was it killed 12 students and a teacher before taking their own lives, and they injured more than 20 other people, some very serious injuries, Brain Injuries and spinal cord injuries, disfigurement. When andy was about four years old, his mum when andy was about four years old, his mum took an Unaccompanied Tour with the his mum took an Unaccompanied Tour with the un his mum took an Unaccompanied Tour with the Un Peacekeeping forces, and when she with the Un Peacekeeping forces, and when she came back, we decided to go our separate when she came back, we decided to go our separate ways. And andy stayed with me our separate ways. And andy stayed with me he our separate ways. And andy stayed with me. He would go running through the woods. With me. He would go running through the woods, riding his bike. We would io the woods, riding his bike. We would go down the woods, riding his bike. We would go down to the woods, riding his bike. We would go down to the river, go fishing. We would go down to the river, go fishing. We would do go down to the river, go fishing. We would do a go down to the river, go fishing. We would do a lot of things together. He was would do a lot of things together. He was like my best friend. I go to the public he was like my best friend. I go to the public defenders office, and i would the public defenders office, and i would say. The public defenders office, and i would say, we will go and see andy, he is would say, we will go and see andy, he is over would say, we will go and see andy, he is over irr would say, we will go and see andy, he is over injuvenile hall. Went down he is over injuvenile hall. Went down to he is over injuvenile hall. Went down to this little small interrogation room, i was sitting in there interrogation room, i was sitting in there and interrogation room, i was sitting in there and they brought him down the hall, there and they brought him down the hall. And there and they brought him down the hall, and we were both crying, i was hurting. Hall, and we were both crying, i was hurting. I hall, and we were both crying, i was hurting, i felt so bad. That is the first time hurting, i felt so bad. That is the first time i hurting, i felt so bad. That is the first time i can remember telling him that first time i can remember telling him that i first time i can remember telling him that i loved him, was that day. Nicholas was born in california. Unfortunately, his mother and i got divorced. She had no authority to bring nicholas. He was snatched out of california, and it didnt make sense to be running back and forth with him to virginia, sol sense to be running back and forth with him to virginia, so ijust left well enough alone and hope that things would work out. California to virginia, it was a culture shock. I would call nicholas every sunday, and he said, dad, you know this Christian School im going to . He said, yes, whats wrong . He said, its the devil All Over The Place. I said, explain it, let me know whats going on. He said, no, that is it. I said to his mother, nick is dissatisfied with the school, whats going on . Check into it. One morning i had my tv on, and i can see these Police Officers bringing a kid out of a schoolhouse, and i looked at his shirt, im saying, thats my son i call the airlines, made the reservations, jumped on the plane and got here, and by that time, my ex wife had returned home, and i talk to her to find out precisely what had transpired. He shot one of his teachers. Andy had his two buddies that he hung andy had his two buddies that he hung out andy had his two buddies that he hung out with the most, and one of those hung out with the most, and one of those bodies, there was a gentleman who was those bodies, there was a gentleman who was irr those bodies, there was a gentleman who was in his late 20s that would provide who was in his late 20s that would provide them with cigarettes and beer and provide them with cigarettes and beer and marijuana. Provide them with cigarettes and beerand marijuana. He provide them with cigarettes and beer and marijuana. He would come home beer and marijuana. He would come home with beer and marijuana. He would come home with what looked like Bird Markings home with what looked like Bird Markings on his neck, and he said they markings on his neck, and he said they were markings on his neck, and he said they were from skateboarding accidents. I told they were from skateboarding accidents. Itold him they were from skateboarding accidents. I told him over and over i accidents. I told him over and over i didnt accidents. I told him over and over ididht tike accidents. I told him over and over i didnt like these kids, but he stayed i didnt like these kids, but he stayed with them, no matter how badiy stayed with them, no matter how tradty he stayed with them, no matter how badly he was treated with them. These badly he was treated with them. These two boys, they were supposed to have these two boys, they were supposed to have participated, but they backed to have participated, but they backed out. And it was in his mindset backed out. And it was in his mindset that if i back out i will et mindset that if i back out i will get picked on even more, so i made his threats. Get picked on even more, so i made his threats, and that was what made him determined to go and do the school him determined to go and do the school shooting. Around me, he was pretty much light hearted. Pretty much happy go lucky kid, didnt have much worries~ happy go lucky kid, didnt have much worries~ you happy go lucky kid, didnt have much worries. You kind of find out that the bullying and the Race Relations at Santana High School had got so bad, at Santana High School had got so bad. They at Santana High School had got so bad, they were under a warning from the justice bad, they were under a warning from the justice department, and they were the justice department, and they were supposed to have put out the report were supposed to have put out the report saying this is what we are going report saying this is what we are going to report saying this is what we are going to fix to alleviate these problems. They put it off because of the shooting. Finally towards the end the shooting. Finally towards the ehd of the shooting. Finally towards the end of the year, they put out the report. End of the year, they put out the report. And end of the year, they put out the report, and blamed andy on all the problems report, and blamed andy on all the problems at the school. It was ortahdis problems at the school. It was orlandis fault. Before andy there was nothing wrong with our school. You just was nothing wrong with our school. You just look at this going, right. And he you just look at this going, right. And he was you just look at this going, right. And he was bullied at santana, his trackpack and he was bullied at santana, his backpack was thrown into the rhine, he was backpack was thrown into the rhine, he was injured, and years later i know he was injured, and years later i know what he was injured, and years later i know what would cause and issue the shooting. Know what would cause and issue the shooting, he had the sentencing hearing. Shooting, he had the sentencing hearing, the victim impact statements were read, and so for four hours statements were read, and so for four hours i statements were read, and so for four hours i had to sit there and listen four hours i had to sit there and listen to four hours i had to sit there and listen to how bad my son was and how peoples listen to how bad my son was and how peoples lives were affected. The cops report from Santana High School said that cops report from Santana High School said that if cops report from Santana High School said that if it wasnt for andy, there said that if it wasnt for andy, there were no problems at the high schoot~ there were no problems at the high schoot~ he there were no problems at the high school. He wasjust there were no problems at the high school. He was just a little there were no problems at the high school. He wasjust a little kid there were no problems at the high school. He was just a little kid at the track school. He was just a little kid at the back row, it comes up and approaches the microphone and said, im a member of the marching band, the buttyihg im a member of the marching band, the bullying is awful here, i dont blame the bullying is awful here, i dont blame andy for coming to the school and shooting up the place, this place and shooting up the place, this place is and shooting up the place, this place is awful, the bullying is terrible place is awful, the bullying is terrible. In the next day in the newspaper, that kid is not even mentioned. I newspaper, that kid is not even mentioned newspaper, that kid is not