On the air of a weekly sociopolitical talk show, today we will talk about the economy and money and our closest ally in the studio for you Kirill Kazakov alena serova and our dear experts, but at the same time, you can also join our discussion. There are screens down here. You see the qr code. Point your smartphone at it. And on youtube, write your comment or question, we will try to voice it and figure it out. And here in the right corner is a link to our telegram channel, where there are more details of our behind thescenes life, our opinions and what remains on the air in it. Hello and lets start good evening, there were two interesting news. One of them is somehow connected with in fact, with our wallet, the second, as if it is not very clear. The first is connected with our wallet, well, it became known that there is deflation in the country. Lets try to figure it out. This and roughly speaking, what do you eat it with . How will this affect our course of events . And the second is the meeting of two president s Alexander Lukashenko and Vladimir Vladimirovich putin, in fact, two big topics were announced there. The first is the International Situation around our border and the second topic is, well, economic cooperation. And so as for me it is the most important synchronicity, which i saw synchronized under television, here is a short interview that i saw from sochi , it was an interview with Alexander Lukashenko who said how he sees the next year and again the main phrase that was this, and. I hope that we will reach the sanctions period and everything will be fine. And i understand, its great, that probably this sagging economy happened due to the fact that sanctions were imposed against us, searching for supply chains , searching for new investors, but still, well, you understand, what is the presanction period . What is the sanctions period . And how will we get out of it . Uh, kostya, ill start with you , a person who is competent in economics. Thats why you were in vladivostok at the Economic Forum . Yes, as a field reporter who works there, yes, to understand the situation. And what is the attitude towards belarusian goods, not technology, just goods in primorye . We know very well that this is a network of belarusian stores, no matter what they are called, it stretches from bryansk to vladivostok this is the first second the exhibition is still not about well, roughly speaking, the average bill of the exhibition is about millions of dollars, of course, your opinion, your feelings and maybe some comments about how the meetings between belarusians and russia took place. Well , Kirill Vladimirovich yes, the eastern Economic Forum for the belarusian delegation this was probably some kind of synchronization of watches with the far east. And, of course, the personality of the governor. Kozhemyaka. She stood like that separately, because you need to understand that this person, firstly, is an ethnic belarusian and has such warm relations with the president of our country. They talk about this a lot and of course the conversation between our ambassador Dmitry Krutoy and mikhail yasnikovich, who was also present there as part of the belarusian delegation. They showed that the building faces east. We will only gain momentum; the task for the next five years is to increase trade turnover with the far east to one billion dollars. And now, of course, thats it. I will repeat once again moving. In such a good way, thanks to the current governor, that is, the purchase of belarusian equipment, and propaganda in a good way in the good sense of the word. What was the attitude towards the exhibition . Ill explain to you, there s china nearby; for us, china is no matter how much we talk about it being our Strategic Partner. This is also our strategic competitor, because what belarusians produce is also produced in china. Therefore, we also have to compete in china, a small one. Remark you say, china. It seems to me that in fact, maybe i m wrong. And when the time was chosen only due to the price. Mmm, maybe cheaper goods, but its gone now theres also political moment. This is what kostya is talking about. And why is this, of course, its very difficult to compete with china, its very difficult to compete , you need to understand that chinese manufacturers. This is no longer consumer goods. They are ready to offer their equivalent for any belarusian equipment in different price segments, etc. And of course, the promotion of belarusian goods in the far east, where china is just a stones throw away, is primarily political lobbying. Here are the statistics that i heard from governor kozhemyako, if we take all a loaf of belarusian equipment that goes to the far east 90 , uh, if yes in the belarusian, yes region, 90 of equipment is purchased here from the state budget, only 10 are private businessmen, that is, the municipal city federal budget buys belarusian equipment businessmen. They look a little differently. Yes, they look at the service. They look at price and so on. Moreover, you need to understand that sanctions are sanctions. Okay. But if you are in the far east and you need to buy japanese equipment, you will buy it. Yes, it will be 40 more expensive there than before the sanctions, i understand. Well, after all, yes, from the ministry of industry. We always say that our technology is competitive. Our technology can also show itself. Its better there than our competitors, and our equipment is the best there. The best technology in the world, were talking about filming a report there. Yes, and when the sanctions happened, we talked about the fact that the russian market is huge, it can absorb, well , almost everything that we produce, and then after a while, well, 1. 52 years passed , we started talking about that the chinese they compete with us precisely due to the fact that somewhere their parts are more accessible , somewhere in terms of service and many experts. They say that we have already reached our maximum and in terms of trade with russia, from an industrial point of view, we have already reached it. Now there will be a rollback, whether it is true or not , at first by literally two figures on the results of the outgoing year for the outgoing one. More precisely. Well, how we work today and it would seem. Eh, when sanctions happen, that means, of course, a very difficult period. When all enterprises had to almost urgently turn around and look for new ways for new partners in this situation. Its quite typical that our main partner , the Russian Federation, uh, practically, we found a common language with them and were able to supply, uh, the bulk of our goods. E to the Russian Federation, that is, the export growth rate. For us in the Russian Federation last year it was more than 150 . Despite the fact that total exports. Uh, we also showed an increase of 115 , if we talk about the enterprises of the ministry of industry, this year the trend continues to be dynamic. May be is slowing down a little bit, that is , we now have exports from the Russian Federation. Uh, about 140 a little more than 140 , uh, yes absolutely so uh, well, he is he and he drives enough creatures 140 . This is a high pace and next year we predict that we will grow . Well, of course, the pace will probably decrease, because look, yes. It will decrease because there are many niches where we could already occupy them, which means thats all. Its harder and harder to really compete with the chinese a little bit different sight. Yes, thats on the topic under discussion. Uh , that question is not even only in the ministry of industry or the industrial enterprise. There is such a thing as Financial Support from a point of view. These are preferential loans, installment plans, there and so on. There, like china, there are no selfmeasuring Financial Resources in relation to Belarusian Enterprises. As such , the European Union is even going to sue the banks due to the fact that cheap electric vehicles are talking about the need to talk about finances of industrial cooperation groups, this is what we are talking about today really. We shouldnt even overtake. At least not to lag behind china, but here are the questions. I would like to explain to your colleague who said that 90 comes at the expense of the region after all. I think not the federal republic. Well, probably this is also the point of view. Well , probably, it seems to me that it characterizes the state approach. Why . Because today one job, in particular masha , in the country creates from 7 to 12 jobs in related industries, including in the Russian Federation, that is, they have a private enterprise such a bit of a parochial, yes, selfish, and pragmatic, but a parochial approach, original bodies, federal bodies. Why are they attracted . This is not a wife, its not even that he is ethnically belarusian, its just that the vision of the problem is much more stateowned and they. We are talking about the fact that even russia, a Strategic Partner , talks about cooperation, the same import substitution programs involve the involvement of russian and Belarusian Enterprises in one production chain. Here, too, this dude is not china. This is another country. They have these they dont care about problems at all. And vice versa, you need to tighten it on yourself. We have it there, so to speak , to process it and supply it, including to the Russian Federation; dont look at it, on friday there was a dialogue platform at the minsk Electrical Engineering plant named after kozlov, in fact, for the majority of residents. Belarus is, well, an enterprise that produces something. What is not clear is that they began to talk about the fact that the average salary is 2,600. We work three shifts, most often on saturday and sunday. Yes, they make transformers. This is a serious story and says, we have grown in number over the past year and a half. We are building an additional building in order to assemble a paint shop; we bought a new installation from china, that is. Strictly speaking, an enterprise. Its growing, growing, growing. I say okay. Where do you sell . He says, russia but the funny thing is that he says we sell to europe, well, he says we sell to europe, well, of course, no one discloses these supply chains, but he says we had very large orders. They had the same increase. There are big ones orders from europe and says, well, in fact , people understand that this is really a technique that is pricequality. Very uh, well, kind of worthy and thats why we really are renewing these chains. Here is the resumption of these chains. Over the past year and a half , the president has said that sanctions are, well, just another reason. Yes, in order to find new markets, find new people who will work. But the restoration of these new markets or old new markets, russia is understandable. And Everything Else. Well, of course, this task is very important today, because we understand that on the one hand. No matter how much russia can accept, it is necessary to think about diversification and supplies to other markets, of course, first of all. Here uh, go out to uh. The first place in the market are countries that have , lets say, good relations with us and are ready to cooperate, no matter what, with us and our enterprises. These are, first of all, countries. The cis is the countries of africa, these are the countries of asia, but here they ask the second question logistics issue. This means we understand that to deliver goods, uh, if somewhere through asia , absolutely, so here it becomes even more difficult for us to compete with our very same asian partners. Well, when, uh, sanctions pressure affected russia , such a serious speech was made that, in principle, well, with some basic things, yes , the first necessity goods there, of course, we can provide ourselves. The question arose, precisely in technology, it was about the fact that somewhere in their time the development of technology was slowed down. Or other directions. The same microelectronics. Why are the russians, who for a long time did not support us in some way, reluctant to share something . Hmm now. Eh, we are ready to develop that same cooperation even in such a narrow and specific topic. Well, because there is a need, there is a request, and we paid attention to the technopark, including vladimir aleksandrovich, heres how things stand. And now what kind of requests do they come to you with and if we are talking about hmm technologies, which well, perhaps, and now critically important, then this is what, well, i, first of all, with positioning myself. My mother and i work in the middle sector of entrepreneurship, with entrepreneurs who are production workers who are involved. Yes, that is, it is something that you can touch with your hands. They are releasing some specific products based on the request that we have, that is, we need to distinguish between two types of requests, firstly, from the entrepreneurs who are inside, who are starting their own business or are going to continue to develop it, but they need to decide, as if the first global task is to get hooked somewhere in good conditions. Here we are we provide matte opportunities, that is, we have several sites around the city, the largest one. Now it is actively developing and undergoing reconstruction. At partizansky eight there are also traditional pumps. There are still promising sites that will also be under construction soon, but still. We try to work with every business and entrepreneur who contacts us. Well, its not just about posting. This is the concept of his problem, and they will be more willing to help solve them, help gain access to resources and opportunities to promote the foreign market provide, therefore, a fairly serious tax benefit. Tax benefits, this means that we are not united, that is, we are not alone in the world. More precisely in belarus or in the universe we have the great stone. If spvt has its own client, it means that it is a more advanced enterprise. If you touch any stone, or this is pure it. If we touch on pvp , although there is not only pure it. Well, we have our own segment. This means that we work, but we work not only with those. Who has already come to us . And with those who . Eh, basically, he wants to stay somewhere to get hooked, we help them, and we look for other sites around the city and also try to understand their problems and solve these problems. What areas are Financial Resources , technological human resources, and product promotion, E Consulting Services for help, just show which doors to knock on, where you can save on bank interest, where you can refinance at a lower interest rate. Uh, where can you get some kind of technological, and a technological cup, that is, to the operation inside the Technology Park itself. Well, i wanted more say with an external request. That is, as if often in many exhibitions, a always fits. Eh, foreigners, for example, yesterday there was a wonderful exhibition at the bike show, which means the walkietalkie was suitable. And everyone has a request, but for some reason everyone is trying to sell what they produce, for example, on the belarusian market. Well, in order for them to want to buy, you need to at least surprise them. Here, in fact, our task is to find enterprises or entrepreneurs who are doing something that will surprise our foreign partners a little more than you shared with foreigners. So the last example. You touched on china. And our partners from the middle kingdom, that is, in recent months. They came to us twice. These were representatives of the embassy and representatives of such a structure as a center, as a civilization. Here but they are positioned in china, they are in china. So we got acquainted with the products of some residents. You will be surprised and they became interested in one product that is being made in our Technology Park, made by our belarusian company, which patented this product and uh, and they lamented somehow chinese, that means its guess what. Yes, this is coffee, this is coffee, it seems like they grow coffee here. No one. Yes, look. Well, i also understand that the Technology Parks that exist in russia are also becoming a definite object of our attention. For example, last year the mayor of minsk Vladimir Evgenievich kukharev went to ulyanovsk, there were big cookies from the technopark, what do you take from there . Because, well, if they are already working with this, we are starting to work here, probably some, well, aspects of the conditional sister cities or just ours partners. We are adopting, we are carefully monitoring, and the situation regarding the development of these parking lots in the Russian Federation, they have associations of Technology Parks and a. There are hundreds of industrial clusters there, maybe already 1,000. And so to speak, the participants. Eh, we even measure somewhere and the state commission for science and technology also measures our positions in their ratings. So we have good positions, rather closer to the top third. Even maybe a quarter, uh, but what can we get there that we lack, for example, if we take the largest ones and their technopark is skolkovo we take there all the competencies that we need from our residents. Ours, we also hold many competitions of the republic , entrepreneurs participate in them, regardless of location in the country, be it minsk or victor anywhere, and the winners in various youth categories, not only youth, we, uh, have such events. How to increase where it takes place in a school near moscow which means participation in the event itself is free. Well, you have to get there somehow fashionably. We also call them business angels. Well, business angels are the ones who has. These are free resources that can be placed in some startup in which he himself believes. And what is the point of a business angel is that he gives not only money and not so much money. As much as ones competencies, ones connections, on