Theres apparently a lot of that going around and a bunch of her staff had gotten sick but shes doing fine. She just got dehydrated yesterday. Charlie cole and is that what happened . Because when you look at that collapse,. Video that was taken, you wonder if it is not more serious. Its a mystery to me and her doctors. More than one occasion, over the last many years, the same sort of thing has happened to her where she got severely dehydrated. She has worked like a demon as you know. Charlie more importantly, she is on a grueling campaign. I think shes fine now. I was glad. Today, she made a decision which i think was correct to cancel her campaign day. She looked like a million bucks this morning. Charlie she has pneumonia. Sometimes that can take a while, the recovery. Is it possible she will be away for weeks from the Campaign Trial . No. I will be lucky to hold her back another day. Charlie but theres nothing else you can disclose about her health . Connectnnected to the concussion, any other thing that has happened to her . As far as we know, shes undergone extensive physical exams since that concussion repeatedly. Charlie you yourself said it took six months to recover. Some people are more prone, particularly as you get older, to dehydration. People think at my local rallies all the time and im told im sure its not due to them swimming. I would say as long as im in politics, well over 90 of the collapse ine seen but itsical rally almost always because of dehydration. Charlie is it fair to say that if doctors had concerns, they would not let her on the campaign trail and you would not let her on the Campaign Trial . Absolutely. Charlie so theres nothing more to know. Nothing more to know. Her doctor has been in touch. There is just nothing there. All the Health Indicators are good. Shes very strong and has exercised a lot. She sleeps long hours by my standards anyway. Charlie why not release every possible medical record you can . The Campaign Said they would release some more medical information. Charlie what you encourage her . Im not involved in it. Charlie you were encouraging her to release everything. Yell. Yes. If a martian came down from outer space and watched america unfold the last eight weeks, it would be hard to see these earnest pleas for disclosure which are entirely onesided. We also released 40 years of income tax information. Charlie people are demanding donald trump releases returns all the time. We will just see. I dont know if hes going to or not. Charlie that will put more emphasis on her to release, would it not . It would be refreshing if there were one thing in life if he did close more than she had. Charlie why do you think hes not releasing . I have no idea. Charlie you have some speculation. Would you assume he has something to hide . That. Ont want to do i have been on the wrong end of these assumptions before. Because you are on the campaign trail and because its so nuous is drinkou have to do more water. I think she will be doing it a lot more now. You have got to be really disciplined about that. To the falld in allergy season, which i feel too. Charlie charlie she has allergies. Mr. Clinton in the fall she does. She does well in the spring compared to me. But we both have had fall allergy issues. Charlie here is what people are saying. Republicans were presenting theories about her health. The concussion. Charlie conspiracy mr. Clinton conspiracy theories about everything. Charlie people say between a cough that she had and having to take medicine for that, and now the discovery, this has made her health a campaign issue. They think everything is a campaign issue. I think her lifestyle and her underlying indicators, blood pressure, exercise, Everything Else means it is almost certain she is in Better Health than her opponent. We dont know because he hasnt disclosed. Charlie if he does, she would be forthcoming immediately. Mr. Clinton she hasnt been not forthcoming. She has disclose more than he has. I saw the interview with his doctor. They will do the right thing. She is going to be fine. Mr. Clinton you understand how they are saying, this is what we have seen in this campaign, whether it has to do with emails, questions about that from the fbi report that the secretary of state, the nominee secretary of state, the nominee is not forthcoming and it raises questions of trust among the voting public. You know those polls are high. Unpack that for me. Mr. Clinton it has been unpacked. The fbi said there was no basis for any criminal activity. They said it wasnt even close. More revealing to me, a very high number of senior military officials and Senior Republicans who worked in National Security have endorsed her for president , if they thought it was a big deal they would not have done it. Charlie but do they know . Mr. Clinton some would ask. Why dont they ask those questions of mr. Trump . We didnt know until recently that he had to pay a penalty for using his personal charity to pay a campaign contribution. Later did a fundraiser who mysteriously decided not to pursue actions against Trump University like our attorney general did here. You can say that. There has never been a candidate who has disclosed as much information about everything. There has never been a foundation who disclosed as much as i have. Why dont people feel trust . Because of the way it is selectively used. If a martian drop from outer space it would be hard to watch our politics unfold. They will say they say they will disclose but they dont really. Anybody who contributed to my foundation. They have some influence with hillary secretary of state. Ignoring that i organized the foundation in 1997 to prepare for my president ial center in library. Many of these contributions were made long before she was secretary of state by people who had been known to both of us for decades. That is the sort of thing it makes me feel bad because the people who are serious about this, who use disclosure to make serious announcements are the major evaluators Like Charity Navigator or Charity Watch. I know one of the networks the other night, the head of Charity Watch said it was it would be viewed as one of the great organizations of our time. Charlie i have seen those reports and watch the good work the Clinton Foundation has done in the clinton initiative. I think most people know that. Mr. Clinton i think voters heard about us for the first time when they said look how many gave to this money to the foundation. Charlie we know what he has done. Mr. Clinton they didnt know from reading the story. I think that is the real issue here. I have bent over backwards to make sure theres no conflict of interest or appearance of conflict of interest. We reached an agreement with the white house before hillary became secretary of state about how donations, how it would be handled. I have been working ever since hillary declared trying to determine what more we need to do. I said the other day, if she wins i will resign from the foundation board. I wont raise any money. We wont take any foreign money, nor will we take any american corporate money. Some people say then why not do it now . Why not say from now on, not whether she is elected president. Mr. Clinton because there is nothing wrong with what were doing now. I have got to wind it down. It takes time to undo this. We have a lot of lives on the line. For example, the easiest thing for us to do is make the health operations, which gets the bulk of the Foreign Government money, from places like norway, ireland, canada, the united kingdom, hardly enemies of the united states, to do work all over the world. I will get off of the board and it will be totally independent. Everybody will be satisfied. Charlie if she is elected. Mr. Clinton yeah. Then the Clinton Global Initiative, we will not have it anymore. Unless someone decides to pick up the idea which i would help them do, it cant run without the support of corporate sponsors and international contributors. That is how we have gotten 3500 commitments that have helped people. We cant do that. So we have said that. I would resign from the board of my foundation. I would not raise money for that. Charlie what happens to your daughter chelsea . Will she stay on . Mr. Clinton i hope so. The first responsibility is the president ial Library Center in little rock. Which among other things runs a Leadership Program with the bush library. I might add, i believe when president bush was president , he had family members. He had points of light foundation. Nobody raised a peep. Chelsea had three advanced degrees in Public Service operations. And the things we can do in america if we can do it with individual contributions, there is no conflict. Charlie may i make this point. I dont think people recognize the Clinton Foundation has done a lot of good work and has spent millions of dollars. Mr. Clinton mr. Trump called a criminal enterprise. Charlie im talking about the american public. They also recognize the Clinton Global Initiative has been a way to talk about how to solve problems. Thats a different issue. You can recognize that and say there have been instances in which people have called members of the foundation and said we would like to be at a meeting. We would like to have a meeting with the secretary of state. Whatever their motive. They have called from the foundation to her office, whether it went from doug van to say could we get this on the calendar . Or could this person who is a friend of the foundation may have given something come to this event . Has that happened . Mr. Clinton you know from the emails what has and hasnt happened. I think you know what the state department said. There were two instances, one of which they did not get what they wanted. And the other, the request had gone through normal state Department Channels anyway. That cant happen anymore. That has all been eliminated. Do you understand how for some people the optics were not good and it had the appearance of influence . Mr. Clinton i believe people who know each other and call each other all the time, all i know is what i read in the paper. The papers indicated there was a presumption of suspicion if hillary gave a meeting to the Mohammed Younis before trying to find the facts. He won a nobel prize. He has been a friend of ours for 33 years. You can say there were others but thats my point. The presumption of guilt was there on a decent man. They even raised the possibility there was something wrong with elie wiesel. Charlie we are talking about circumstances of people who had not won great awards or who had not called a revolution in africa. But people who were Business People who simply wanted to be associated with the clintons. Mr. Clinton and what happened . Charlie did none of them get an opportunity to participate in a meeting . Mr. Clinton first of all meetings are set up all the time. Members of congress do that all the time. The white house has a political director. They can do it all the time. The secretary of state is is out of elected politics. In every case i read about hillary knew the person involved and had for years. I have no idea why someone called that then. Keep in mind, he worked for me in my capacity as a former president. So we realized all that had to be cleared up and we fixed it. The state department has said conclusively and has offered documentary proof that nothing was ever done for anybody because they were contributing to the foundation. And i might say as paul krugman has pointed out, all of this stuff has been dragged out and not one example, not even one of something wrong happened. Millions of dollars gets spent. You were playing the same old game. We have spent the whole interview talking about this. Lets just get down to it. Charlie my impression is two things. One, that you want to talk about this because you want to set the record straight. Because there is speculation it is in your interest and her interest to talk about it. Second point, with respect to rwanda, you have apologized in terms of your administration, have you not . I have done everything i can to make it up to them. When you seem to believe there was a mistake you say it. Mass incarceration was another example. In terms of making sure we know what you are saying. With respect to the foundation and whatever might have taken place with the foundation, any access to the secretary of state, there is nothing to apologize for, nothing happened. There were no consequences and we have been as transparent as we should and can. Is that what you are saying . Mr. Clinton we have been as transparent as we can be and more transparent than any other foundation. More transparent than any foundation has ever been asked to be. Certainly more transparent than anybody else in this line of work. I have said that to the best of my knowledge nobody ever got anything from the state department. Because they supported the Clinton Foundation. If they did i would say that was wrong. I have proved i am not adverse to apologizing for things that i think are wrong. So im unaware of that. I believe the state department has forcefully said there is no example of that happening. If you think nobody should ever call somebody they know and say soandso would like a meeting, that is the way the National Government works. I can say to the best of my knowledge, i know for a fact only from the people i read in the paper that people they accused are implied gave money to the foundation did so, did not do that. That was simply not true. That is not why they did it. Charlie david brooks said i understand why donald trump is unpopular. He earned it the old fashion way. Why is Hillary Clinton unpopular . She was not unpopular as secretary of state. Two of the most unpopular candidates for president in the history of american politics. If i answered that it will be the only story. We wont talk about my foundation. It wont talk about what ive done for 15 years or cgi. She was popular as first lady. She was a popular senator. The most widely trusted figure in National Politics when she walked out of the secretary of states office. She is popular today among people who know her. Theres a big difference between her and her opponent. Plenty of people know him and are supporting her. All of the other people are not. Lets look at this benghazi thing, the way it was handled. Four americans were killed. There has never been such an attempt to make political hay. First there were six congressional committees who did their job and reached the same conclusion independent commission did. It was a security lapse. The secretary of state never makes those decisions. Now, when hundreds of americans were killed when president reagan was in office in four separate attacks. Tip oneill said we dont play politics with National Security. They had one hearing. They recommended changes. The changes were supposed to have been implemented long before the last attack which involved kidnapping and killing the cia station chief. When the president was asked he said it was like repairing your home. If hillary said Something Like that i doubt if she would have been in this race today. But oneill refused to play politics. How many times were there reports on this Benghazi Committee that said this has never been done before . Then we have the seventh committee, she endured 11 hours of questioning. She proved to me, she said how do you think i did, i said ill vote for you. She should everyone she should be president. The Republican House leader committed the ultimate sin. Why did this happen . He told the truth. He said when you guys what did you get done this year, he said look what the special committee did to hillary. He said it, not me. Therefore because he committed the truth, he could no longer be speaker of the house. We live in a toxic atmosphere when people respond to what they read in the press. Everyone got the bit in the mouth. Charlie you think this has to do with social media. Mr. Clinton a little bit. Most is driven by the fact that everybody is under lets back up. Look at the environment. The political, economic and social order is discredited all over the world. That crash had a long tail. When you go a long time without a pay raise. When you think your future is bleak, when you worry you cant provide for your children and your borders have negative ways, you have the biggest refugee crisis since world war ii and massive cultural change, you have this disorientation. Charlie why are they attracted to donald trump . Who lives above manhattan in a luxury penthouse . Mr. Clinton he told them, hes rubbing salt in their wounds. He makes them dislike other people. He says i will fix it all and make it like it used to be. I understand. Look at what happened in the brexit vote. Who voted to stay . Young people. Charlie old people and pensioners voted to leave because they thought they lost control. Mr. Clinton scotland and Northern Ireland voted to stay. People who wanted to shut the door are doing pretty well everywhere. The ultimate nationalist, more authoritarian candidates. The ultimate nationalist, more authoritarian candidates. Charlie why is secretary clinton who has an agenda, an economic agenda, having less appeal to workingclass americans than you did. They were your constituency. She has a program. Donald trump is getting more of their vote. Why is that . Mr. Clinton it has been steadily the case. It started in the 1960s. It started in the 1960s. You go back and look. When president johnson signed the Voting Rights act he said i think that ended the Democratic Party in the south. A lot of this is cultural. Shes the first woman candidate for major office. She trying to get a third term for a party it is difficult. And the level of difficulty with the economic and social orders all over the world is very high. Charlie you know how to speak to these p