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BLOOMBERG Countdown October 7, 2016

Im anna edwards. Manus and im manus cranny. Algorithms abound in the market, smashed down 6 at its worst point today, but that is nothing. On the brexit day, we dropped by over 8 . We dropped by 6 and saw it come back to a decline of 1 , standard deviation. There they are. This is one standard deviation, two standard deviations. Has dropped by approximately one and a half standard deviations. Goldman sachs says there has been a big psychological break. That break of 120 changes the dynamic. On one platform, it traded down to 113. 78. Hollandether francois had something to do with it during a very low volume period of trading, that is something to consider. Lets start the risk radar around the pound and show you how we are recovering. The pound was selling against a number of currencies, not just the dollar. We have recovered a bit, that we are still down 1. 5 against the u. S. Dollar into down by 1 against the euro. We have seen is essential move, or the Great British selloff. Manus the break even, this is the crux of the matter. The precipitous drop in sterling has driven the break evens. Lets have a look at the risk radar because it is jobs day in the usa. We have the longest rally on the dollar in five months. We are waiting for the payrolls. The probability of a hike in december is 64 . Anna it is edging up, isnt it . The gold price is rising. We are not farley from that number. The ftse feature is in thei as ere as well because we have seen this Great British selloff in the pound. U. K. Equities have a substantial dollar earnings base. Manus lets get out to david ingles, who has the first word news. A very good day to you, david. David an interesting day. Lets start things off of Deutsche Bank, which is holding informal talks with security firms, exploring options, including raising capital, should mounting legal bills require it. Sale, aslude a share the disposal, an asset disposal, and more. Meanwhile, the imf managing director says the sooner deutsche reaches a settlement, the better. Bloomberg television was told a bad settlement is always better than a good trial. The settlement would certainly be welcome because they could deliver some certainty as to what weight the bank will have to carry, and whether it matches with this provision or not. So, the sooner the better. David chinas Foreign Exchange reserve declined more than expected in december. S shrank says the stock by 3. 17 trillion. Now, to japan. The country needs a double dose of monetary and fiscal easing. Abes Prime Minister advisors says this limits the effectiveness of the bojs eas ing, and is the biggest reason the inflation has not risen to the target of 2 . Hurricane matthew is set to be the strongest form hitting the u. S. Since 2005. Four storm with winds of 130 Miles Per Hour is expected to make landfall in causing as much as 50 billion in economic loss. Global news 24 hours a day, powered by 2600 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries around the world. You can find more stories on the bloomberg at top. Im david ingles, and this is bloomberg. Manus david, thank you very much. It is jobs day. Sterling is moving. What is happening in asia . What are the repercussions of this move in sterling . Good day to you. Reporter good day to you. It does not take much to unsettle investors. We already had that trepidation ahead of the u. S. Jobs report, and then that slash crash that came through. Ahead of the major market open in asia, we have had a sense of sellers moving in. The pound drop has actually made what could have been a boring day in little bit more spiced up, but we have seen weakness as well. We have also seen money moving into the yen. So, japanese equities, they were on a four day winning streak, but they end the day in the red. Australia also closes lower. Except for i should say, the Energy Producers, which have been doing quite well. And new zealand is finishing pretty negative. In hong kong, the hang seng has snapped four days of gains as well. China, of course, on monday will have a lot to play catchup to. It has been closed all week due to of course, the holiday. Just having a look at some of the movers. We have been watching samsung, coming through with a little bit of an expected quarterly profit of. 8 . Then, can see the Energy Producers doing quite well. But the holdings in tokyo are down about 5 . This is after the Restructuring Plan was unveiled. Anna it has been an event filled day and it is only 6 07. Manus the pound got smashed. It plunged by as much as 6 , the biggest decline since the day the brexit referendum was announced. Anna it is a move traders say was exacerbated by computer initiated sell orders. This pointed to a Financial Times article that cited francois hollande. Manus he told the paper there must be a threat, a risk, a price. Otherwise, we will be in a negotiation that cannot end well. We are now joined by the head of the u. K. Investment office. If it was the hollande comment, whatever it was, this flash crash down 6 opens a new quarter in sterling. Do you sell the rallies . One thing i would say, if you want to sell on the rally, you might not have momentum in your favor. We saw this with the swiss franc of 2015. Anuary it was pretty hard to sell the on the official first few days. On the other hand, sterling is still well below where we were a few hours ago. Sentiment is still weak. Unlike that event, breaking the peg in the euroswiss. It will be another two and a half years before we get any kind of resolution, and people know this. On a technical basis, you might want to be careful in selling after such a big move. Anna there does same to be something fundamental driving this. We have ended substantially lower than where we started before this flash crash, but what worries you more, the state of the u. K. Economy and brexit, or the use of machines in trading to such a degree . Move markets, can but when computers are involved, they can do quite a bit. I am not going to go into a apocalyptic computer research. This is going to disrupt the g7. When they talk about excessive volatility. Anna yes, one of my colleagues wrote in. Perhaps some oversight will come out of this. Manus as we discussed yesterday, at what point does the sterling pain become political pain . Before this, the chancellor hammond spoke about the low level on the pound. We dont target one Exchange Rate level. We have a free Exchange Rate and the market will make its judgment on the appropriate level of sterling on any given time. History tells us those judgments can move fairly significantly on fairly small provocations. Selfdenying ordinances for chancellors is we dont speculate on what are the appropriate Exchange Rates of sterling. But you dont seem unhappy about the current level. It is not unusual for a chancellor to protest that it is too high or too low. The market decides the appropriate value and we are committed to a free market Exchange Rate system. Anna Philip Hammond did not want to comment too directly. What is your call . How weak can the pound get, and during what time frame . 1. 25, thatd up at has been a hit overnight. At the same time, going back to what Philip Hammond said, will there be a political going back to 1992, and what happened afterwards. When will this become unpopular, it will have to come down to inflation at the end of the day. Manus one of the charts we were looking at was the ftse 100 the 350, a0 and the ftse trifecta of records we have not 1990s. Ce the we dont know this is in a new channel, but it has changed the conversation, hasnt it . The ftse 100, a lot of people just say it is a commodity index. However, if you go further down gets down toet down tit the unique than amex. It gets down to the unique dynamics. Manus it has risen by 24 basis points, the highest since 2014. That is anticipating it will be passed on. If the u. K. Is an open economy, like in sweden and switzerland, we can see manufacturers that dont want to pass that on to consumers. However, it is not a free lunch either. So, they will have to absorb the higher import costs in their margin. That will not be a positive story for the stocks. We have to be very careful who is hedged and who can absorb it better. Anna who is in the market and invest. As you mentioned, lunch, we have a Trading Update not long ago. People have been feeling the pressure already from the weakness in the pound, in terms of the import costs. Prices can be quite sticky. Geoffrey yu, thank you. Manus we look at Industrial Production for the month of august at 9 30. Anna at 1 30, the muchanticipated u. S. Non pharm payrolls. The function on the bloomberg, whis pay. Tell me how you say that. Manus and in the evening, we get the u. S. Fed vice chair speaking at the institute of International Finance meeting in washington. Stay with bloomberg because we have a lot coming up from the imf. This includes. Anna the bank of italy governor during the programming at 9 40. Then, 20 minutes later, we will be speaking to sergio ermotti. Then, we are speaking to the eu commissioner. Manus a lot is going on. Lets tell you what is coming up on countdown. Goldman sachs downgrades the electric carmaker, adding to the woes of the ceo, elon musk. Anna the german lender will be holding informal talks and raising capital. Will the biggest ipo since glencore yield to expectations . We take a closer look. This is bloomberg. Manus yes, it has indeed. It is just after lunch, 18 minutes after 1 00. Nervous, 23,821 for the hang seng. Lets get the business flash with david ingles. David thanks, manus. Lets start with samsung. The company had better than expected thirdquarter earnings. The impact of the note 7 recall was limited. Samsung did not specify the Financial Impact of the recall of its Flagship Smartphone, but analysts are estimating it is between 1 billion and 2 billion. If the post merger earlier this year, but it was rejected according to a person with knowledge of the matter. Had it gone through, it wouldve been the biggest bank merger in europe since the financial crisis. The Dutch Finance Ministry also declined to comment. Rio tinto says mongolia will not receive any dividend. That is the worlds secondbiggest Mining Company. He completed a 5. 3 billion underground expansion. This will be one of the top five world, andes in the currently owned by the mongolian government. So, we did not receive any dividends. It is a longterm project. To build the underground, of the valueis 80 of the project. It will take us five years to build the infrastructure and seven to nine years to finish it. To pay some dividends, you have to be profitable. Until we get to a finished state, which is clearly 10 years down the road, we will not pay dividends to anybody. Is losing somek of his biggest wall street cheerleaders at a critical time. A similar move was completed by morgan stanley. Pressure. Dergoing he is said to be looking to raise as much as 2 billion in a new round of financing. Snapchat has begun preparing, filing for an official Public Offering in the First Quarter of next year. That is according to people familiar with what is going on. The Company Recently changed its name to snap inc. This could depend on the health of the chinese economy and the outcome of the u. S. President ial election. That is your Bloomberg Business flash. Anna david, thank you. Every day. Manus everyday a different combination. Anna now, it is jobs day in the u. S. And investors will be focusing on the non pharm payrolls number, which comes out at 1 30 u. K. Time. How will that impact the great rate debate . Reporter plus, 172,000 jobs. That is what the bloomberg medium forecasts on friday when we have the september non ph arm payrolls. Lubricant intelligence predicts a number a little bit higher, 190,000. Look for an upward revision to that number. This is something that has happened over the last several years. And all of this will help guide the feds thought on a rate hike later this year. We have a chance of 50 priced in for december and a oene in fo ur chance by november. We saw a rise of 2. 6 on the year from 2. 4 . The work week is projected to increase to 44. 4 hours. The Unemployment Rate is atecasted to stay the same 4. 9 . It has been sticky for the last 13 years. That could mean the economy is close to full employment. The september jobs report comes out friday, 8 30 a. M. New york time. Ubss geoffrey yu is with management. We have listened to a lot of the numbers coming in there, number after number. It is all about the wages. The fed is overly data dependent. 2. 6 about the wages and seems to be where the market is focused. Are you focused on the wages . In the context of where inflation should build, yes. But if you are focused on wages, shouldnt we be talking high numbers as well . The Unemployment Rate is close to, or even slightly below. We keep talking about whether the concept makes sense of not, but that is for another debate. Be,it is as tight as it can why arent we seeing more inflation. Even the u. K. Could make a similar argument as well. Yes, we focus on wages, and what part of the income scale is enjoying wage growth. And then the important thing, if you can have 10 to 15 wage growth. The fed will not be in a position to hike rates. It is not just about wages, is it growing as fast as a relative to employment, and what is being done with it. 172,000, what is the have to be to really change the conversation around the fed, in any direction . I would say, in any other year, up. But in this year, i dont think it will move ahead of november. Moving into december, if it confirms we are on track, around 175,000 to 200,000, able just push up expectations for december, which is what we expect as well. Manus where are we . The dollar is on longest winning streak. What next . Is there a step chance in the yield curve in the u. S. . I think that will much more outlook fore fed 2017 and 2018. If we look at what has happened to terminal rates, they have been dragged down, outlook for 2017 and James Bullard is not helping things either. You could conceivably have a december hike, but then the fed saying, where will terminal rates be . I dont think it will do the dollar any favors. I dont think that will do yield any favors. We have to see what kind of hike there will be. We have two kinds. The hawkish hike, or the dovish hike. There, we would have won this e this year, and the maybe two next year. Anna risk is so high and relatively and hedging are so low. People are unwilling to take any risk with this election. What do you think . The facts matter, and we are seeing this in our business as well. If you go around the bigger risks, you will always find them. Anna geoffrey yu stays with us. Manus up next, Deutsche Bank is reportedly exploring a cash call. We discuss. Anna welcome back, everybody. In london, which means another addition of daybreak is available on your bloomberg, and on your mobile. Lets take a look at the stories making into todays edition. I dont even need to look to my right hand side to see what the story will be about. It is all about the pound, manus. Manus a toxic combination. The dollars during dropped by 6 , 1. 5 standard deviations. Saw on near that 8 we the morning after breakfast. It was a move that traders say was exacerbated by computer initiated sell orders. What did you read this morning . Stop the bots. Anna that is one persons analysis. One of our colleagues is talking about adding some insight. Theher story on daybreak, news around Deutsche Bank. It is holding informal talks, talking about exploring options, should mounting legal bills require it. A spokeswoman for Deutsche Bank declined to comment. Manus i think what is interesting here, if we think back to last september, john cryan declined he would raise capital. How much capital would john cryan and Deutsche Bank need to raise . That is an excerpt ital inextrio raise . Linked. Doesnt this come down to some sort of elliptical conversation, in terms of the boj and what they will do. Finally, daybreak focuses on saudi ramco. The Biggest Oil Company is planning to sell shares in the entire business, and not just in the refining and distribution operations. Manus i want to bring a little bit of breaking news. The proposed deal, the unsolicited deal, it looks like delta lloyd is rejecting the takeover proposition. This is in the dutch insurance sector. The delta lloyd rejection. We will get more on that, including the reasoning. The terms are not acceptable, so the basis of the deal is not acceptable at the moment. Anna lets talk a little bit more about the pound. We have a couple to show you. In fact, this is the move into the session. Manus it is down 6 . This is the risk radar. I think the big issue in the market will be this. The pound dropped to 6 and on one exchange, it dropped to 1. 13. How many margin calls have been there and how many stop losses have been revoked . There has been a great deal of arbitration over what traits des stand in the market . Er,a yes, that pound is weak but not as weak as it was. The dollar index is there for you, up by. 2 . Of course, it is jobs day in the usa. On any other day, we would be talking more about that, but events in asia and the pound have changed that. 1250 they say you will see an opportunity. We can see gold tumbling, but the etf, the actually buying of bullion, that is rising. And on ftse futures, we have a new record. Will that relationship hold . Anna down the pound goes and of the stocks go. Deutsche bank is holding informal talks to raise capital and dispose of assets, should mounting legal bills require it. Anna meanwhile, Christine Lagarde says of the sinner Deutsche Bank reaches a settlement, the better. A settlement would certainly be welcome because it would d

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