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BLOOMBERG Bloomberg West April 27, 2016

They remain optimistic about the underpinnings of u. S. Growth. Less worried about risks posed by the global economy. Emily facebook hitting investors sweet spot with another glowing earnings report. Surging revenue and steady user growth. Mark zuckerberg has more to come. Paypal giving the markets a strong showing. Leading revenue and profits. How long can the company fend off the competition. Yahoo scores and narrow victory against activist investors. The company may have averted a boardroom showdown but is it speeding down the fast lane to a sale. Facebook shares surging after hours, the stock jumping as much as 9 off betterthanexpected revenue. The social network reporting quarterly revenue of 5. 4 billion, up 52 over the same order last year. A profit of 1. 5 billion. Positive engagement messaging. Steady growth in daily active users. The Biggest Surprise was a proposal for a new class of stock. Mark zuckerberg wants to issue a new class of nonvoting shares so he can continue to make big bets on things like conductivity and Virtual Reality and fund the zuckerberg initiative. Without diluting his ownership stake. Able tos, i will be keep founder control of facebook so we can continue to build for the longterm. Priscilla and i will be up to give our money to Fund Important causes sooner. Right now there are amazing scientists and educators doing incredible work. Joining me now to take a deeper look at the numbers, gene munster josh marsh and steve case. Facebook be on every measure. What do you make of zuckerberg asking for this new class of shares . Gebne he them more control in terms of the company i think he is wise to do that. This is him making it very clear that he is in charge of this company. He wants to see some longerterm bets throughout. He doesnt want to be pressured quarter to quarter. Emily Mark Zuckerberg did speak about this a little more depth on the call. Zuckerberg this will allow us to improve the funding structure the service so well. Than 1 million worth of stock in facebook shares over the next three years. That is still my commitment. Will update the shareholders on future plans beyond that. Emily i spoke to the cfo who says that a large part of facebook success is due to marks leadership. This will allow us to maintain the structure that has served the shareholders well. What you think of this . Josh it is been an extraordinary success. I applaud their work on these moonshot big bet projects. I think the jewel class is a tricky issue. If sometimes can be a bad thing. Classt sure the dual structure is a good thing. But he has earned the right to continue to steer the ship. Back at the history of different companies, sometimes there is a change of strategy and somebody is locked in the doesnt have control of it. That resulted in not really making the right decisions. That has not been a problem in the past decade. It might not be a problem in the future. General, i think there is some question about whether the dual class structure is a good thing in the long run. The underlying issue is how do ceos and founders have an incentive to take that longterm view and invest in those longterm projects. I do think there is a general concern about wall street being too focused on shortterm quarterly results. Emily this is a good time to ask when you beat expectations on every measure. Sharing has been in decline. On facebook. Dave weiner told me that people sharing more on facebook but how they share is different. He says they are very well positioned across all forms of sharing. Josh, what you make of that response. Josh posting to social media has been dropping. It could be a big challenge of that continues. It doesnt seem to be affecting the revenue yet. It is definitely something to keep an eye on because so much of facebooks revenue at the moment is driven by new advertising. Newsfeed isnt necessarily governed by the original sharing. Emily when you look at the results they look great across the board. What you may take a ways . Ene they are growing revenue in a similar pace as they did in the december quarter. The reason is that they are continuing to find ways to insert more ads into the feed. The dont feel as much like ads to people. That is one of the genius things that they have been doing. They are having success without tapping into these other areas like instagram. It is hard to find things that arent working. Im at a loss to try to point to something that is disappointing in these results. Emily it is hard to imagine a time when facebook be challenged. Over the next decade, what do you think the Biggest Challenges would be. Steve facebook ally has been a big success. Getting a lot of traction. Add to theto platforms. Some really smart acquisitions. The risk particularly as we transition from the second wave of the internet to the third book, is focus of my the innovation and things like a health care and education. Some of the leaders will continue to lead the way but some other new companies will crop up. That is was a danger when you are the incumbent and you are so strong. Emily we are in the early days of monetizing instagram. But they have these messaging apps that they have even turned on the firehose yet do you see much more attention potential not just for the short of the longterm to make a lot more money with this family of apps that Mark Zuckerberg is made these big bets on . They effectively have another two facebooks that they havent even really started monetizing it. They need to start out monetizing these platforms. You cant just stick and send them as you can on facebook. Driving oneonone engagement between businesses and customers. Withng with messenger Companies Like sprint for customer service. We are still very much in the early days. Emily investors are still wildly optimistic about it. Its shares are surging. Thank you for being with us. Other tech stocks we are watching today. Apple and twitter shares plunged off the backs of their latest earnings reports. Twitter drew more users last quarter but not enough to attract more and dollars and that sent shares down the most in eight months. Apple shares reacted to the most first Quarterly Sales declined more than a decade. The decline was more than the entire market cap of many other companies. Up, take a look at paypal. Shares rising after hours after they beat some expectations for profits. We break down the numbers after this. Paypal beating expectations on both sales and profits. Earnings per share of . 37 higher than the estimate of . 35 per share. Volume of processed transactions up 26 . Payment transactions also up 12 . Ceo steve case. Nd jean muster were almost a year now from the split with ebay. Gene theres a nice tailwind in terms of the use of payments. They celebrated their total volume which is a key metric. As the business stands today, it is going well. The future chapters are going to be more challenging. Things are going well today. Emily i know you think of paypal as part of the third wave. Steve the first wave was really building the internet. The second wave has been building apps and services on top of it. Twitter and facebook. The third wave is really integrating the internet throughout our everyday lives. It will require little different mindset. Partnerships and policy regulations will become more important. Moreverance will become important. These are tougher battles. Emily lets take a look at the competition. Apple pay, samsung pay. What you think is the biggest threat to paypal . Gene as soon as apple launches the new version of its apple pay that could be a turning point. If apple was able to use a secure online piece that encrypts Financial Data that paypal wont have access to. Apple only has about 25 of the Global Smartphone market. People spend a total of money online. Ultimately those combinations of all those players impacting paypal. Apple pay will be more potent in terms of the impact. And revolution you guys. Ave taken a look at finn tech a lot of that innovation is taking place outside the united states. How well positioned to his paypal to compete with them . Steve i think they are doing well. Theres too much focus on what is happening there. The Bigger Picture is these large financial banks like jpmorgan. The debate in washington is are they too big to fail . I think the question is they are big to innovate. The third wave will be about the connection between the innovators in the policymakers. Someplace like london is really leading the way. We have to enable the right kind of innovation. Enabling those startups to take on some of these a giant companies. Amalie what is paypal need to prove . Gene they need to prove their five parts of the digital wall. They do a good job of desktop. ,here are two important parts in app and pointofsale, where they havent proved themselves. Having a seamless product, that is the key. Small amounts of friction have a dramatic impact on behavior. Think about when you put your credit card into the chip reader and you have to wait an extra five second, how that feels. Paypal needs to streamline what theyre doing to make it is frictionless as they can. Emily thank you for joining us. Arianna huffington wants to help steer uber in the right direction. She is joined to the board of directors. She is already an investor. Who was working to fulfill a promise to shareholders that they will be profitable by the Second Quarter of this year. They are facing increasing competition from left. Bringing Emotional Intelligence that the company is lacking. Coming up, yahoo Ceo Marissa Mayer makes a deal with one from august vocal critics. We would dig into the details. A stock we are watching closely. Lending club. Shares surge as much as 9. 4 . Closing just under 8 . After an analyst at loan marketplace says origination fees charged to riskier borrowers. They are now being charged a 6 origination fee. The price increase could contribute 12 to revenue growth. Activist investors have reached an agreement with marble technologies to add five new members to the companys board. Star board took a 6. 7 stake in january. It maker in markel ceo and president agreed to step down. The Company Still looking for a new ceo. Another star wars target. Yahoo has scored a narrow victory. Reaching an agreement with the activist investor. It will name new members of the board immediately. They threatened Ceo Marissa Mayer and let management wrist chain some sway in deciding the companys fate. Avoiding a proxy war may increase the likelihood of the sale of yahoo assets. Who wins and who loses . It is pretty clear that star board wins. When two. Hareholders and existingives management lose. They now have a chaperone on every day. They couldnt be trusted. Emily now i understand. Ursa minor said this will allow us to keep our focus on the increasingly important objective. We are looking forward to looking working with the entire boards to maximize your shareholder value. What does that mean . Brian there is some truth to a sale may be more likely. Weve had a long battle with star board. It goes back to 2014. Weve had saber rattling and proxy wars. Now Marissa Mayer saying lets come together and see if we can work it out. This shows up we can all get together and this connection happen. Who knows . Emily have you expect the sale process to proceed now . How do you expect it to move forward . Having put the kind of people that they have. They suggested there were involved. There was a sense that this had to be a monolithic sale in terms of the size of the company. I wouldnt be surprised to see more of a focus on a kind of dismemberment of yahoo . Some of it goes in bits and pieces rather than a single monolithic sale. That is why you saw a number of people brought to the board that you did. Emily talk to us about the status of the bids. Who is still in the running. Paul we believe there are more than 10 that were involved. This is a winnowing process going on right now. It is a question could there be sort of a breakup of yahoo . A lot of people who matter what happens say let me get a reasonable valuation. 4 billion 8 billion. That is where we are at. We are not in a resolution. Thats another speed bump. Emily paul, we dont know the substance of the office. From what appears to be on the table, what is the best case . Cenario for yahoo case isthink the best that kind of dismemberment. I think yahoo is being held for ransom in a sense. People say they have to buy this pile of stuff and go out and retail a bunch of pieces of it. So im going to be lower than you think i should. It is kind of like he used car problem. That was bored to knows this and star board knows it. They are saying made we can make the margin ourselves rather than selling it at a lower price to a bitter. Emily when we hear more brian . The next fight will be coming up a Shareholders Meeting in june. We can look at what happens. Theres a lot of stuff on the table. Is more of a spring in the step of some investors now. Emily could this take through the end of the year. Brian could be sooner than that. Because it is not we never know for sure. Emily thank you both. Intimate, and conversation with the young computing ways who grew up to master the music industry. Spotifys ceo tells us what is it like to be a tech celebrity in sweden. More of bloomberg west coming up next. Mark former u. S. House speaker Dennis Hastert has been sentenced to 15 months in prison for violating banking laws. Revealedmoney case that has to sexually abused at least for athletes when he was a High School Wrestling coach. The judge called pastors a serial child molester. President obama will make his first trip to flint michigan since the Drinking Water crisis. Heavy fighting continued today in libya. They are battling for benghazi. Islamic state took advantage of the security vacuum after Muammar Gaddafi was assassinated. The European Union is rejecting greeces request for a summit over bailout money. Askedeek Prime Minister for a meeting with eu leaders. Creditors wont agree to give greece more money unless it imposes more austerity. Paul we expecting some modest gains here but also some modest declines on the nikkei when they open. The reserve bank of new zealand left to Interest Rate unchanged. The big rates decision today is japan. Well be watching there to see if theres any change toward traditional keys and techniques. Out of korea, we have samsung earnings for the first quarter. Those are expected before the opening. The market is expecting a 2 decline there. Earnings likely out of sony. Emily this is bloomberg west. Post today is aol cofounder steve case. He is just written a book called the third wave. He claims a new paradigm we are entering. The first wave of the internet was the years between 1985 pence 2000 when Companies Like aol were bringing people online for the first time. The second wave involved Companies Like facebook and twitter link ecosystems on top of the internet through apps. And now the third wave. What companies survive and steve in the third wave . It depends on what they do. We talking earlier about facebook and twitter. They did exist. Zuckerberg was still in high school. Emerge andple will some of the current leaders will remain leaders. It depends on how they play it. When i was a kid could ask that for photography. They ended up going bankrupt because of digital photography. They actually invented digital photography. But they didnt invest in it, they didnt partner. Some people may need to partner with larger companies. To get that market entry. Sectors Like Health Care and education and transportation, things like smart cities that require a lot of companies to be working together just as the first wave a lot of Companies Work together to build the internet. Uber hasnt partnered with anyone. and it is causing the problems. They are not available in germany or south korea. They had some real challenges. In washington two floors of the building have focused on policy. They get started and second wave hasnt happened. Importance on more it will have significant policy and locations. That will be much more common in the third wave. Emily we talk about a bubble and inflated valuations . 75 of Venture Capital went to california and new york and massachusetts. But we are seeing the rise of the rest. Great regions all across the country. Health care i. T. In madisons wisconsin. Educational Tech Companies in new orleans. Were seeing innovation disperse. Arestors california starting to realize that the entrepreneurs are Building Great Companies there. Their starting to invest in those places. Emily do others suffer . Steve sure. Are delayed Public Offerings because people dont want to go public and have the risk of a down round. So in the last couple of years things have been overheated in that late stage private market. If youhere that problem are in chicago and nashville or new orleans. Some of the cities of the rise of the rest is that the magic leap has raised money from google. They are in Fort Lauderdale florida. That is the rise of the rest. And you are based in washington. Weve been talking about the tense relationship between Silicon Valley and washington. Sides need tooth do to reach common ground. Steve we need to talk to each other. Right now were talking past each other. Silicon valley, most innovators dont want to talk to the government. They want nothing to do with it. When you are dealing with things Like Health Care, we do care about what drugs we taken things like food systems have make sure the food is healthy. The idea things like Driverless Cars were drones. It will require much more dialogue in the third wave. That was common in the first wave. The internet was possible because of the cooperation between the gove

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