The quinnipiac poll shows a Hillary Clinton leading Bernie Sanders in new york, in in connecticut, and yet, on the eve of the clintonsanders debate, tensions are still quite high between the two democrats and their calves on issues that are very important, such as guns, wall street, and fracking. Picked up his first endorsement from a senator, and he campaigned with verizon. Icketing so, john, how is Hillary Clinton doing in an attempt to bring them into her camp while she rattles Bernie Sanders . John well, there are a couple of left. Doing toonk she is good a job campaigning. She had a really strong speech. The parts of the left that Hillary Clinton has performed well with, she continues to perform well with. Supporthoring up her with those groups. I think she will turn them out and do well. That is important for her. Mark or are a lot of Bernie Sanders supporters who speak very disparagingly about her. I do not know that she needs them. It may not require getting them, but i think the clinton people understand that simultaneously, if she vanquishes Bernie Sanders, she is going to need to do something for the people on the left and moved to the center, but i would say her greatest gift would be if donald trump or ted cruz were the republican nominee. That will bring a lot of democrats from the left. John i think she needs those votes. If you think about that coalition that barack obama brought together, millennial, and she is going to need those people, and she does not need the stories about how people in the Democratic Party are going to stay home and sit on their hands. Donald trump will be bringing people out if he is the nominee. Mark anecdotally, i meet democratic supporters all the time you did not vote for barack obama. John now, donald trump. His polling numbers are just as sketchy. Trump is north of 50 in new york here and also in connecticut, which will essentially trigger winner take all scenarios for collecting delegates in those states, and 20 more than a 20 point lead over ted cruz and john kasich according to the polls. Today, there was news that trump has now hired a man who previously worked for the Republican National committee, and most recently, scott askers campaign to work Trump National political director, and you, for all of , so, still battling openly mark, how is trump doing in the battle to try to bring establishment into his camp . Mark today, as a snapshot, not so well. The reaction i am hearing about rick being hired, oh, and good he was hired. He signed on for the front runner, but how disappointing. He is doing this for all the wrong reasons, even the people who like him. And they think it will be fine if he wins the nomination, but there is still an antinever trump movement, and that was a period that now seems laughable when you saw stories that send we hate ted , maybe trump is better. John you do not hear that anymore. There is a difference between people have written many stories, and they are correct to write them. Suggesting that trump is trying to professionalize his campaign. That is a salutary sign and a sign of maturity on his part, but on the other hand, it has nothing to do with getting or theeam republicans establishment, another inside game, but it is not the inside, inside game. It has nothing to do with those. Chris christie and jeff sessions, there has not been an endorsement like that. And continuing to be remarkable, ted cruz has got no endorsements since wisconsin, and marco rubio good things about him last night. Trump has a long way to go. John it is getting worse with the establishment rather than better. Mark and these numbers will change and improve once the against Hillary Clinton, but, leaving aside personal attacks, which would certainly be part of a trump clinton general election, what would trump use as issues to his hypotheticala trumpclinton general election . John well, he has had a hard time sticking with the economic message that give him the first entree or early entree into the hearts of a lot of republican voters. He has a hard time being disciplined. If he tries to argue that he is a manager, then he understands worked in the he private sector and he understands World Affairs better than Hillary Clinton, he can make claim to that, and i think he will try, and i think he will say, though she is moving to the left, that she is not credible on that given her husbands history and that he is more credible. Mark i think he would use immigration against her and campaign finance. I think he would go into the Clinton Foundation and the super pacs, and the last thing i think he would do is economics. Affiliate would not be positive, he would try to hang the obama economy around her neck. Is not in histion case he will or could. He could do all of those things, but as i said at the very beginning of my rather to long answer, he has not proven disciplined. The question is whether he is able to do those things. Mark i think on Foreign Policy, you ask, what have you accomplished as secretary of date . A lot of democrats have struggled to answer that question. John she knows a lot more about Foreign Policy than he does. Coming up, our conversation with ted cruz, right after this. Cruz, good to see you. You have been here some are you have been out of the state. Your campaign is on the air. Your super pac is on the air. What is your goal here . Mr. Cruz new york is donalds home state. You would expect him to do well, and i think if he does less than 50 , it will be perceived as a loss. We are competing on the ground. We are getting some support, but ar campaign is very much national campaign. If you look at the last three weeks, we have had an amazing three weeks. We won 11 elections in three states. John what would be a success for you here question what would that mean . Mr. Cruz listen. We welcome every delegate we can earn. When donald came to texas, we walloped him in the home state. Any serious candidate ought to be able to win their homes they, and i think donald is likely to do well, but i am encouraged. And i was endorsed as the strongest constitutionalist in the race as the person you can trust to defend the bill of rights and also the strongest commander in chief, where we have to be active standing by our allies, like the nation of israel, and standing up to radical islamic terrorists. Mark lets talk about cleveland, finishing with the second most number of delegates before cleveland. At that point, donald trump and his supporters are going to be disappointed. With few had the most delegates. What would you need from him in that scenario . What would you expect to him if you come in as the nominee . It is unclear what will happen, but i think it is getting much more likely that we are headed towards a contested convention. We will come in with a ton of delegates, and none of us will have a majority. We will see what the Voters Decide on that, but regardless, what that means then is in cleveland, it will be a battle to see who can earn a majority of the delegates who are elected by the people, and in that contest, i think we will have the significant advantage of being able to assemble and really unite the Republican Party, and that is my focus right now. If we are divided, if we are splintered, if we are fighting against ourselves, we cannot win, so my focus is bringing the Republican Party together, and that is why i am so encouraged about winning election after election. John donald trump would be disappointed. He has sort of scent signals that he would then say that the system was rigged against them, and his supporters, the hundreds of thousands or millions around the country who support him, how do you bring donald trump and his supporters into that . Mr. Cruz i am not going to predict how donald will act. This is the same as it has been since 1860. The only way to win the nomination is to earn a majority of delegates elected by the people, and whoever the candidate is, that is what they are going to have to do. Up, it is going to be critically important to keep the Donald TrumpsSupporters Energized and engaged, and that is the one theons why i think i am last man standing against donald, because if you look at the supporters, the heart of his campaign demographically has been blue collar workers, the reagan democrats, and the only people who has competed against them effectively for those voters throughout this primary has been made. In some states, he has won both bluecollar voters, and in other states, i have one them, and we tend to be first and second, back and forth, and the issues that excite them, illegal immigration, the borders, keeping this country safe, and bringing jobs that bob bringing jobs back from mexico. Mark and without the full support for you in cleveland . Mr. Cruz i certainly hope so. There is no doubt in a contested convention that that is something you worry about, having divisions in the party, so were going to have to work hard at continuing to unite the party. One sign that is encouraging. You look at the 17 candidate who began this race, five of them have endorsed my campaign. We are endorsed by rick perry, jeb bush, scott walker, carly irina. That is really indicative of the Republican Party uniting, and each of those was fighting vigorously against me, and yet, we were ableeason to this is in the course of the gotles, our Campaign Never personal, never got nasty, never attacked them personally. We have policy disagreements, and it makes it easier to unite when you do that, and i hope the same will be true with donalds supporters if and when we win the nomination. Ask you a question. It has got nasty, any calls ted every single day. He tweeted a picture of your wife that was clearly meant to insult her. Did you talk to him . Mr. Cruz i did not see him. Gotas gone by the time i down, but i certainly would have talked to him. John is this political theater . If somebody talk to me like that, i would not be friends with them. There is no way we would be allies. We would not be friends for the rest of life. Can this be fixed . For my fact, i try not to take it personally. There is the old adage of the frog and the work it, and these organs things the rock, and as the frog is thinking, says why did you stay me . He we shall both dive, and says it is because it is my nature. I understand. Donald lashes out when the attack, death and he is losing. We are all human beings. We all have a natural human emotion. The focus at the end of the day, it is not on donald. It is not on me. The focus at the end of the day is solving this crisis break my focus is jobs and economic growth. Focus ofhat is the people in new york. They want to see high paying jobs back. Mark you do not talk about in a way that i find lets say you are explaining your taxes to a College Freshman or a college junior. How would you explain it . Mr. Cruz yes, it is a flat tax. The first amount of money you pay zero. Up up 36,000 come for each additional dollar you earn, everyone paid the same simple flat 10 tax. A gazillion or pay for same tax rate as a secretary. No longer does the billionaire pay a lower effective tax rate. Then on the corporate side, we abolish the report income tax. Payroll taxes, which are the biggest tax is working men and women pay, and we abolish the death tax, which is cruel to farmers and ranchers and Small Businesses, and we replaced all of those with a 16 flat tax that is fair and uniform. No longer tons of corporations nothing,untants pay and Small Businesses get hammered, and you would fill out your taxes on a postcard. You can also see the tax form on our website, and you can also have it on your smartphone, and we abolish the irs. Today is tax day. We had an extension until monday this year, but people are thinking of the burdens of washington, and especially with the obama irs. It has been politicized. It has targeted americans based on their First Amendment rights. It is time to end the corrupt and mythat is the irs, simple flat tax will produce 4. 9 million new jobs and will raise wages. The average family over 10 years will have enough additional 7,600 in takehome pay. That is real money for people who are struggling. Lots of people would pay less, but with some pay more . It is certainly possible, and i have not done the taxes for everyone in america, and everyone sees an increase in aftertax income of at least double digits. That is when we were designing it. I worked very closely with the chief Economic Advisor to ronald reagan, and that was one other thing i was looking for when i was designing it. It had to help everyone, and it had to produce growth. The key we have, whether it is unemployment, the deficit, strengthening of preserving social security, it has got to be growth, so this is designed , andrbocharge growth manufacturing jobs come back to america, back from china, back from mexico, and back to the state of new york. You would say is no, but do you have any idea how much money the cruz family would save . R. Cruz i do not know john bruce springsteen. You like them. They announced they were not want to play in North Carolina because of the bathroom law there. Hear of an artist doing Something Like that, do you think it is legitimate . Do you think it is respectful . Cruz he has free speech like we all do. I do think an awful lot of hollywood and entertainment latches onto what is politically correct or popular at the given moment, and my view, i am a constitutionalist, and states have rights to pass laws that are consistent with the value of their citizens, and it may be that the citizens in North Carolina will make different judgment than those of new york, and that is how our constitution works. Careful lawyer. Is it true that you are about to start vetting potential Vice President ial candidates . Mr. Cruz anyone will looking to be our left and 100 days away from the convention, so you have got to do that, so we are in the process of assessing, and i would say it really is a nice situation on the republican because there is an abundance of choices. Candidates. Terrific we are in the process of examining potential Vice President president ial nominees, but you know what . To be a viceng president ial nominee until we win the nomination, so our focus is earning the votes from the people to earn delegates to go to cleveland. Holland and in cleveland, they have to be vetted by then. Mr. Cruz this will be on a fast and accelerated timeframe. Will be back with the wife of Bernie Sanders right after this, jane sanders. Mark our guest is jane sanders, the wife of Bernie Sanders. Sanders both of us were born and bred here. Coney good to be back at island, having so many people out there, and south bronx, all the people out in the audience. It has been fantastic. Mark so your husband has said you may be from vermont, but you are not intimidated by this. Are you intimidated to run here . Not sanders well, we are intimidated by new york. Secretary clinton represented new york, but it is like home to me. Anchor your husband has made this complaint that the process has been unfair, given the way the delicate rules are nine in many cases. Do you agree with that . Do you think it is unfair . Mr. Sanders i do not know that it is unfair, but it is kind of silly that the votes that are superdelegates, they are people who are not the voters, so that this not seen quite right. I know this is what the republicans wish they had at this point in time. We just do not agree with that. One person, one vote. That the grandkids saying there was the same number of delegates. How does that work, grandma . What would you say . Sanders they have roles. I do not like how they figured it out, but those were the rules that were set when we entered, and those are the rules we are playing by. Donald trump, you would not say it is correct or fixed. Sanders no. It is interesting to see if state by i would like to see more of a election, where you hasa date, and every state the same requirements for registration. For example, independents cannot vote in new york, and we are building the Democratic Party, and yet, we are keeping them out if last october, they did not decide to register as democrats. That does not mean smart. Anchor you mentioned the superdelegates and the role that they play. You are trying to weigh them and bring them over. Your message to them . What do you say . Mrs. Sanders i think the key is to look at who would be best. Whoever the democratic nominee is going to win the base of the party, the democrats, but who wins the independents, and whose ways the republicans . Has done that his whole career. He wins independence throughout his whole career. 25 of the republicans in the senatorial election, because they said, we know you. We trust you. We may not agree everything with what you are saying, but we can count on you to do what you are saying, so i think he is a much better candidate, even predicting it that way, but if you look at all of the polls, he is doing much better. Mark more with the wife of Bernie Sanders, jane anders, when we come back. Anchor we are back with one of Bernie Sanderss closest advisers, and occasionally his primary news source like when she broke the news on saturday at a new york rally that he had won the wyoming caucuses. Jane sanders, thank you for being here again. We were talking about that a little bit in wyoming and the differences in the delegate rules, and also about the superdelegates, but but talk to us a little bit about your role, in all of this how you define , it, as someone who is campaigning for him. You are very involved in knowing in his advertisement making. With what you are spending time on. Mrs. Sanders theres about half a dozen of us that work with