The second president ial debate, donald trump is an double trouble for a pair of controversial utterances that are burning up the wires. One took place at an immigration roundtable at trump tower today. Micother was into a hot more than 10 years ago, but boy, is it a scorcher. The video obtained by the Washington Post featured audio from trump in 2005 making comments that were vulgar about trying to sleep with a married woman at the time. Trump was married with his third wife and was talking to billy bush as they arrived on the set of days of our lives. When this video is out we will play some of it, but almost everybody watching the show has seen it. Trump was going to get asked about bad language, bad attitude towards women already. This will be a big topic on sunday for sure given the way the first debate went. How much worse do you think this makes it and what can trump do now given the depth he has put himself in . Donny let the record show at 4 p. M. On october 7, this election and it. There will be women coming out because this man has lived this way for 30 or 40 years. This is his first go around. They have been saving the best for last. It is not just he is talking to about women it is the lewdness, the aggressive, demeaning. You dont recover from this. The scary thing is there will be more to come. John the Trump Campaign put out a statement i want to read the statement. We will play this in a second, but the Campaign Statement about this video we will show you in a second. This was locker room banter. A private conversation that took place many years ago. Bill clinton has said far worse to me on the golf course. I apologize if anyone was offended. So, i said yesterday on this show that i thought before this happened that the only recourse trump would have given the statements he had about women, the only recourse he had was to apologize. We will now play the video, but i will say now, say i apologize if anybody was offended is not an apology. The necessity for trump to apologize the only recourse he has now, the only recourse is an apology to the women of america. Take a look at this. Watch the video now. Mr. Trump i moved on her actually and i failed. I admit it. I did try to her. She was married. I took her out furniture shopping. I said i will show you where they have some nice furniture. I moved on her like a she was married. All of a sudden, she totally changed her look. Inill take some tictacs case i start kissing her. Im automatically attracted to beautiful women. It is like a magnet. Billy whatever you want. Mr. Trump grab them by the nice seeing you. Terrific. You know billy bush . Doing very well. Are you ready to be a soap star . Mr. Trump im ready. Absolutely. Go. Y there we you have a nice costar here. Absolutely. Mr. Trump come on, billy. Get over here. John everything about that is gross, right . Of course, it is locker room banter and are many men who have engaged in this, but this is a guy with a huge preexisting problem. Im not saying we know people, you and i have said things that are bolder vulgar and lewd. But, we are not running for office. We have not that changed people fat chained people shamed people. Deness. T have that groucru the worst thing to happen to any candidate is a preexisting narrative, when that gets illustrated. This is an existing problem for trump that is going nuclear. Donny you had a big poster on the wall it is more than stupid. Any woman just like barack obama, any africanamerican that was ever kept down, offended about their any this is now for woman. Any woman who was objectified by men. There is a level of disdain with women. John we have a clinton statement. From a clinton tweet Hillary Clinton or the campaign . Which is it . No . From Hillary Clinton, herself . She tweeted calling this a horrific comment. Donny there were some things that was bleeped out. It showed a disdain for women. Women will come out in droves and they will speak. The election ended today. There will be more in the next few weeks. John i want to say it this way i think you may be right. I dont know. A lot of things happen. To winning the election, donald trump has to apologize at this point. If he wants to retain any semblance of his dignity, he will need to do a lot more than he did than that statement, not really apologizing for this disgusting donny communication guys, how do you apologize . John he doesnt like to apologize. Donny i think we will watch the wheels come off. The republican nominee was holding a roundtable with leaders, but one of the labor officials claimed that officials ting immigrants so they can vote. Trump said they are letting people go into the country so they can go and vote. This is an election still with conspiracy theories. Trumps basic thesis that this election was rigged. He told people to monitor polling places for voter fraud. If trump loses the election, how much of these arguments will play into that . John i think one of the most disgraceful things we just played something that was disgraceful in a different way but in terms of having respect for Democratic Institutions in this country and taking seriously what the responsibilities are, the notion he has suggested that somehow the election has been rigged and if he lost it was because of vote theft or corruption. Telling people we cannot win or lose pennsylvania because it was stolen from us. I think it Shows Incredible disregard for the responsibilities of being the nominee are. Your job as the nominee is to fight as hard as you can and if you lose to ensure the peaceful process of transfer of power to the next person. I think trump was try to undermine that. This is yet another sign it will go way further. Donny trump is a marketer. He has a target audience of 40 million uneducated white americans. His backup strategy is to sell them on a revolution. That basically coming out of this election, everything was rigged. We have talked about this for the Trump Political Party and network. He all along has been hedging that even if he loses, he will stay connected to this audience. Not in the form of president , but a revolutionary leader. He is setting himself up. Was to be clear, trump picking up on something that someone else said at this roundtable that he seized on on an aggressive way. The idea that the Border Patrol is being told to let Illegal Immigrants rushed into the country in order to vote for Hillary Clinton is insane. Last night, donald trump at a town hall in new hampshire. At first glance, it seemed like it would be a practice round for his big debate against Hillary Clinton on sunday night. Everybody was watching closely. It shows more message discipline. Here is how trump did. Back from lasot vegas where we had a tremendous crowd of people. A lot of hispanics. Latinos, they like to be called. Karen whitaker. Mr. Trump hi, karen. Thank you. I like this audience. Bernie sanders would have been legendary if he didnt make a deal with the devil. When he made that deal, his stock went down. John harwood was the worst moderator. I used to say someday he will be an anchor. Guess what . He is still doing that maps. Do you really think Hillary Clinton has been prepping . Hillary clinton has been resting. She wants to build up her energy for sunday night. That is fine. Lets have a fun question. What is one of your earliest memories as a child and why do you think it stands out . And then she says go, donald. Mr. Trump the most successful people i have ever met are people that do not quit. They dont take no for an answer. Do something to really love doing and never, ever quit or give up. Said the event was not a dress rehearsal for the debate this weekend in st. Louis. If trump shows up that way on sunday and repeats his performance, do you think that will be enough to put him in a position to maybe when the debate win the debate . It seems like your answer might be no. Donny people said that was softball. Questions like what are you going to say to hispanics that have been deceived by obama and clinton . I dont think he will get questions like that. Obviously, it was a setup audience. It was nothing about the logistics that have to happen in a town hall. If any way, shape or he any way, shape or form thought that was a practice i think it will be a disaster. He has never seen a latino person, muslim person facetoface asking about these allegations. Hillary clinton nobody will stand up and say i represent emails for this country. He will come facetoface with his sins. John you look at the way he performed, he barely interacted with anybody in the audience. He was calmer, but beyond being calmer, he didnt really react with anyone in the audience. Donny john harwood. John he will be up there sunday night. He has two moderators. Martha and Anderson Cooper. He believes Anderson Cooper is part of the clinton news network. I dont disallow the possibility that trump was try to take on anderson in the middle of the debate. If he gets into i fight with the audience, moderators, if he ignores the audience like he did last night, beyond the larger issues, this will not go well for donald trump. Donny what are we going to have to talk about . The show is ending soon. Coming up, the reverend al sharpton joins us for yet another controversial donald trump issue this week. We will be right back. Donny a gruesome story of a 1989 rape case made its way back into the headlines. The central park jogger case involved a group of five teenage boys accused of sexually assaulting a 28yearold woman who survived. During the trial, the five boys said they were coerced into confession after interrogation but still found guilty. Confessed torderer the crime and his dna matched the dna at the scene. And new were exonerated york city pay them a settlement. Donald trump was outspoken about this case, saying that he thought the five were guilty. Yesterday, the republican nominee repeated it by saying they admitted they were guilty. The fact that the case was settled with so much evidence against them is outrageous. Joining us to talk about all of this is someone who played an active role is reverend al sharpton, host of politics nati on. Good to see you. Just off the bat, your reaction to Donald Trumps notion that they are still guilty is what . Rev. Sharpton if he wanted to say that i believed it at that time, that is one thing. Establishedfter dna we are talking about Scientific Evidence that someone who confessed to it in jail was in fact the one who did it and to say it was outrageous that the evidence was against them in fact, the evidence vindicated them to me, it shows this is a level of a man who could never possibly say he is wrong. John what is it about . No rational person, unless they would goned motives, where he is going. What do you think he is doing politically . Rev. Sharpton he is playing to people who have certain biases in this country. Some racial, some based on their anti whatever is going on. He is trying to play to that crowd that i will never step down even in the face of dna evidence. I stood with these five young men when they were first charged and they said they were coerced. Did 15 years and came to work at National Action anetwork. For this young man to see now that after all of this donald trump is saying the evidence was against him and it is outrageous to think they would get a settlement, who is he planning to . It shows one, he will play to any kind of biase. Second, that he absolutely does not have the capacity to apologize or say he is wrong. Even with these tapes you started the show with, he cannot even apologize for his own voice. You are going to put this man in the white house and he cant deal with his own voice. Said there barnicle is no capacity. Dna, a one in for billion chance it is wrong. Four billion chance it is wrong. I never thought donald was a racist. I never heard anything. As someone who has known him, one of the great leaders of the africanamerican community, how can you look at it any other way but a racist at this point . Is there any other way to slice it . Rev. Sharpton about two years ago, i kept hitting him on the racial implications of the birther issue. He and i talked because i egregiously disagreed with them, but i met with him. I told him and he says you cannot call me a racist. I said the birther issue is rooted in racism. Now, what he has done is even worse. Because he is playing to know to what he knows is racism. If he is not a real racist, it is even worse that he will fan racists. If he will sit around and say i hate blacked and mexicans, it is worse than that if you are flaming it. John it has been surprising to me. Riots. Now seen racial there is so much of it. I know it is a personal thing of who is this man in his heart. It is hard to come up with an alternative explanation. He is trafficking in racist tropes at a minimum. Rev. Sharpton even at his heart he does not believe it, it makes it worse. What kind of person would not believe it and do this . Donny at the in the day, it makes in a recent even if he does not believe it. John reverend al sharpton, thank you for joining us. Pray for them, for sure. Check out the reverends show on sunday mornings. Coming up, we will talk about ads after these ads. Donny now for a favorite topic of mine campaign advertising. We are joined by someone who was act with equally obsessed. Ade breaking news today on spending, they are cutting back. What are you hearing and from where . It seems like donald trump is cutting back on his spending in florida, iowa, North Carolina and in ohio. It is a sad time for people like you and me who are obsessed with ads because we talk about ads, we think ads matter, but we think they matter at the margin. You and john had a discussion about Donald Trumps recent comments and that is about things mattering in a massive way. It suggests a little bit of restrategizing by trump in terms of which states he is looking at, but all of that will get washed away sorry to use of that analothat analogy. John one of the things you are always focused on is we are all excess with polls, but if we watch the pattern of spending and where ads are being placed, it tells you a lot more about the campaign than the polls. Talk about what the picture is now as you look at the pattern of ad spending and the new ways you are looking at quantifying that. Ken this is all analysis i did one hour and a half ago before the world changed on us. Advertising is reality. You can say you are contesting a state, you can say a state is competitive, but in this new world of digital and internet, if you are not spending ad dollars in a state, you are not serious. We have seen where the Hillary Clinton campaign is serious. They are serious in florida, nevada. They are spending money in pennsylvania so it is not some fantasy discussion if pennsylvania would possibly be in play. Like many things in the Trump Campaign, usually i can say i dont have to be in the war room because i can see what the ads are saying. When it comes to the clinton campaign, they are serious about florida, pennsylvania, they are serious about ohio and nevada. Colorado and virginia, they think are in the bag. Ads with the trump pulling where they are, does that say they are giving up on the state and how does that make sense . Ken now you are making me make sense of Trump Campaign decisions. What the thinking would be North Carolina, ohio, they have to win those anyway. Pennsylvania is the pivot point. This does not look like it will be on the margins. John thank you. We will strategize with some strategists when we come back right after this. Mr. Trump i moved on her and i failed. I did try to her. I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said i will show you where they have some nice furniture. I moved on her like a she was married. All of a sudden, she now has the bgig phony tictacs insome case i start kissing her. Im automatically attracted to beautiful women. Billy whatever you want. Mr. Trump hello, how are you . Terrific. You know billy bush. Billy nice to see you. Are you ready to be a soap star . John that was a replay of the video that is making the rounds pretty much everywhere. The hot mic moment of donald trump in 2005. Hillarys campaign has taken to twitter, saying we cannot allow this man to be president. Her running mate tim kaine told reporters in las vegas just now that the video makes him sick to my stomach. A former spokesman from Barack Obamas 2008 campaign joins us. And joining us from d. C. Is john, a longtime strategist who work on Rick Santorums campaign. John, i want to start with you as the republican on the panel. You look like a bouncer at studio 54, but beyond that i like bouncers at studio 54. That is a competent. Pliment. My friend Donny Deutsch here says the election is over because of this tape. I would like to hear your argument about why that is not true. John i have learned in doing this for 30 some years, things are never as bad as you think they are and never as good as you think. It is very fluid. We will see what happens in the next 48 hours. The key will be the first thing the press will do is go to senate and congressional candidates in tough races and ask them to comment on it. They will either say he apologized, it was a long time ago, i dont condone it, but there are bigger issues. Or they will throw him under the bus. Donny these are guys who are running for office and they go home to wives and have daughters. How can they brushed it off . No matter where your politics human and cell survival point of view, how does anybody not business from how does anybody dismiss themselves from it . John i cannot say in Strong Enough terms that this was an appropriate. I think it was surprising. Maybe a little less surprising that donald trump said it. Perhaps the most surprising thing was he said he tried something and failed. Hillary clinton has said a lot of things that. Are strange bill clinton has said a lot of things that are strange. What has become the norm is the bizarre behavior and people have a comfort level. We will know in the next 48 hours whether this is going to be one of those things that is the final straw, or people expect this like they did when he went after john mccain. John i think the issu