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CNBC Squawk On The Street April 4, 2014
Our roadmap this morning begins with the jobs number coming in just shy of expectations for march, january and february revised higher. Notably all of the march gains came from the private sector. The ipo parade continues today with no less than four offerings the most notable
Online Food Delivery
service grubhub, the ceos going to join us after it opens for trading. And exxon the
Worlds Largest
publicly traded oil company has agreed to disclose more information about the risks of fracking. Were going to tell you why. But first up, the numbers for the march jobs report nonfarm payrolls up 192,000 forecast called for a gain of about 200,000. January and february pay ros revised higher by a combined 37,000. Unemployment rate held steady at 6. 7. There was an increase in job seekers. Average
Hourly Earnings
fell by a cent. And then people looking at things, guys, like hours worked. Yes. Up 0. 2 hours which given all the talk for pentup demand for labor post winter doesnt seem like much of a payback but thats the debate today. I think just in terms talking about the stock market reaction, yesterday i was thinking all about our nail the number. Because there was this 300,000 number that had spread like wildfire. The winds, david. To desk to desk to desk. And you saw the high multiple stocks contract, collapse, as people said i want to get if its a 300,000 number, i want to go buy every industrial imaginable. Will this whole move yesterday repeal itself . I dont know. Because theres a lot of insiders telling, we have more deals than i can shake a stick at. But that number was dead wrong and thats why you see a little bit of step up. In terms of expectations, goldman was at 200, jpmorgan was at 200,
Morgan Stanley
was at 200. Only a document had i think the high was 275,000 at deutsche. There was a subrosa number that had crept through. Because every time you said, well, hold it, maybe this is the level where theyre going to stop selling some of the high multiples, you heard, no, its going to continue right into the 300,000 print tomorrow. So, i agree with you, that it all looked like 200. But there was this number underneath that really caused a lot of selling in the afternoon market. Why are futures up so much . I think maybe, you know, the pressures over, the pressure of people selling the high
Growth Stocks
and go back to that those stocks remember, the nasdaq was down 0. 9 percent. It was hideous yesterday. No. That was we were back to the
First Quarter
. 2000. It was year 2000. I remember because at that point we had just come public with the street, street. Com, brokers would call me, major desks and say, listen, youll get killed, i know you wont sell the street. But youll get killed. Let me put a high basket on high multiple dotcomes and you can short them and put a collar on and dont get hurt in your own stock. I saw that activity since march of 2000. Brokers frantically working baskets selling high multiple stocks to hedge for
Venture Capital
ists, to hedge for managements. I have not seen this behavior since 2000 and its theyre wilting. What does it mean . The twotrack market has now i said as long as its kept within the
Hydrogen Fuel
and the small biotech and the 3d printing, well, now, no, its rife. Its spread. Its spread and theres no firebreak between the high growth and the rest of nasdaq. I think the nasdaq gets a nice little bump here. But you got to sell it. Theres too many deals. I dont like it. I dont like the nasdaq. You dont like the nasdaq. If it rallies. Ims, grubhub, grubhub, look, i understand, i know were going to talk about it. The
Addressable Market
for takeout is 67 billion. My dad sold takeout bags to restaurants. 67 billion
Addressable Market
, jim, well, not really, but you understand when we
Start Talking
about grubhub like grubhub represents colgate maybe or att, grubhub, do they fit together . Is that like do you like that s. A. T. Question . Grubhub is to att as verizon is to to opower. Oprahs got her own stock. Opow, not really, but it puts smiley faces on your bill according to the its got to stop. Its got to stop. We need fewer deals and im telling you the truth theres no correction what i said in the journal. The number and to the economy and the nasdaqs performance, any connection you want to draw here . No, its connected to investors frantically trying to hedge themselves as they watch their fireeye getting cut in half. Were getting the
First Quarter
performance from hedge funds and you are talking about doubledigit declines because exactly what we were talking about in the
First Quarter
, particularly the last few weeks of the quarter. They are splunking. They are splunking . Have you seen splunking . I havent. You need a magnifying glass. Some of the stocks are in free fall. Give us splunk. Theyve given up the whole gain for the year. Software as a service has become a series of curse words. It should be added to the late
George Carlins
list, software as a service goes with the seven other words youre not allowed to say on the air. Software as a service. I told you not to say that. It was buried and i wanted to repeat it. It is it a precursor to the overall market rolling over . In 2000 the money flew out of the nasdaq and went to the s p. I think the s p at 17 times exis okay. You mentioned the bond yields, they are showing theyre not going to 3 anytime soon, so i think the s p is okay. But yesterday if you look at the s p it was basically flat. And the nasdaq in free fall until the last half hour. Thats a dichotomy that people at home have to worry about. Were not done with that selling because the
Venture Capital
ists and the
Insiders Just
seem to have no theres no price that they wont go. The mysterious splunk block i thought said everything. The mysterious did you see the in misserious splunk block . I was on acela. Stopped most of the time with no communication. You are the seller of the acela . Yes, identify wrs, i am. I am a buyer of a european fast train. The market that is the
Second Market
that i dont like was in charge yesterday and it was a little frightening for people to watch these stocks all go down in unison. Many of them using the curse word the chain of curse words i mentioned to you. Your argument to put a cap on it that is not done. No. People who wanted to close the book on the story of march is not over. No. Ims is a real company, grubhub is making money. Opower i sold to you. But this parade has to stop. Theres good solid companies in the s p but we cannot have deal after deal after deal and act as if the supply isnt wrecking a portion of this market. The supply is i was i dont know if you walked outside and got hit by prospectuses. You got to have kind of a canopy to not get hit by new deals. Ss f1s flying all over the place. You need the virtual helmet. You do. Its go to stop. Grubhub, by the way, talking about s1s flying out of windows is going public today. Pricing its ipo at 26 a share. That was above the expected range. The offering value of grubhub at more than 2 billion. The company will trade on the
New York Stock Exchange
under the
Ticker Symbol
grub. Were going to bring you the opening trade, of course, and well have a live interview with ceo matt maloney. Weve already gone over what you think about these. 1. 3 billion in gross food sales. Look, i can create a story for anything. It is profitable. Its profitable. Different types of ipos, this ipo obviously and the
Growth Business
and ism health which is sort of those lets bring it public, lets take it private, lets pay ourselves lots of dividends and lets bring it public. Ism was a service uf uyou uso use to foiind out how is averpr doing and there would also be some drug that you were thinking. Well, maybe this drug is going to accelerate including the statins, a lot of people hit it out of the park using this data. Grubhub a real company, but at the same time because its profitable, they process 135,000 transactions per day. At the same time the symbolism is not lost on me. Because as we say, the ipo parade, i hate to rain on the parade, theres some really nice people going to make a lot of money. But we are overtaxed by deals and i think if i dont sit here and say it because i lived through 2000 and it is just you just dont want it to happen again. Yeah. You dont want to. Any sense of what the window looks like, if this whole year is being frontend loaded because people feel that sense of urgency . I think it is. But, remember, its also followed up by insiders who cant theres no level they wont sell. I dont mean to pick on fireeye, people were saying, jim, you think even the technology is not even as good as you think. But if you look at the fireeye when the stock was at 96 they file a deal, the deal gets priced at 82 14 million shares and it hasnt been able to lift its head. Maybe i can sell some other deals, short splunk against it and viva against it, maybe i short concur. Theres a humongous amount of selling. Humongous. Its not good. To be fair, the supply of stock overall is a lot less than it was a number of years ago. Only nasdaq. The s p i know thats why i say you can coordinate because the buybacks in the s p are cbs, its time warner, viacom. Did you see that
David Letterman
called leslie moonves. The owner. The man who owns. Owns the network. Leslie does own a lot of stock but thats not quite correct. In davids mind he probably is. But there yeah, master slave there. How much did letterman make last year . There is tightness in the s p because theres not a lot of supply because the insiders dont own like what these guys do over at nasdaq. Right. Hundreds of thousands of shares if you look into of the selling. If you hit up the news of one of these stocks, i wont be too much on my soapbox, but its so much like 2000, scary. Oh, 150,000 shares filed, do this, 2200. And we went with the biotechs its not like 2000, the multiples arent anywhere where they were near, jim. The companies are all profitable. No, theyre not, david. The ratio that are not profitable is higher than in 2000. They are talking about not the facebooks of the world, then. When you say 2000 facebooks a very
Profitable Company
. When you say 2000 are you referring only to the new issues market . Yes, only to the new issues. The rest of the market is quite different. Facebook let me be very clear, i think theyll report much better than expected numbers and its not expensive at 2015. And google not expensive at all. Valued on revenues are hard to figure out where they should stop going down, thats my point. I want to get some news this morning but i havent told the control room. Take a look at myelin, myl. Theres more news on it. Myl reports it was interested in making a move on a swedish rival. That company, meda, and im not sure if im pronouncing it correctly has put out a statement saying yeah, we did speak to mylan, they came to us regarding an indicative proposal to combine the two businesses and the board convened and they decided to reject the proposal. All continued discussions have been terminated without further action. Terminated with extreme prejudice . What is this apocalypse now . Said discussions were terminated without further action. Decided to reject the proposal. I wanted to share that, because mylan shares are yup sharply. And they may reverse. Swedish tax regime versus u. S. Tax regime, its an arbitrage. It would have created a colossus. And it would have been another tax inversion. The idea that youll get any sort of big tax reform bill or
Corporate Tax
changes, but these continue to move quickly and mylan is dealing with so many of its competitors that have already inverted whether it be to ireland or somewhere else. Really have to watch the story the offshore regime happening right in front of the president and congress. They dont seem to be aware of it. Too busy talking about i dont know what. Got other issues on their plate trying to put some headlines on the back page instead of the front page. Exactly right. When we come back exxonmobil speaking to headlines is in the news and fracking has a lot to do with it. Well talk about that. Also ahead the first reaction from the white house to this mornings jobs numbers and well talk to jason furman the chairman of the president s council of economic advisers. One more look at futures the jobs number if you missed it this morning 192 and the
Unemployment Rate
at 6. 7. The threemonth average at 177. Were back in a minute. Friday night, buddy. You are gonna need a wingman. And my cash back keeps the party going. But my
Airline Miles
take it worldwide. [ male announcer ] it shouldnt be this hard. With creditcards. Com, its easy to search hundreds of cards and apply online. Creditcards. Com. But with so much health care noise, i didnt always watch out for myself. With unitedhealthcare, i get personalized information and rewards for addressing my health risks. But shes still gonna give me a heart attack. Thats health in numbers. Unitedhealthcare. Exxonmobil has agreed to disclose more information about the environmental risks of fracking this after negotiations with investors and environmental groups. Wall street firms racing price targets on anadarko after a settlement with the
Government Regarding
environmental cleanup claims, its the biggest cash settlement regarding the environment in history, guys. At the same time i was worried about an 8 billion settlement. Or even 10 or 14. Remember when the judge came out with the unexpected range i know. They were asking for 20. And apc was down sharply. The stock was up 14. 5 yesterday anadarko. Do you think, though, this having removed the liability increases the takeover chatter game again because it becomes more real . Nobody is worried as much as the liability. When you look at exxon and what they have to do to grow, they have to buy a company the size of anadarko. I think the world of their management and theyve got
Great Properties
and selling off some. Anadarko has been the bluest chip of the speindependents, if were royal dutch, i would make a tender. My
Charitable Trust
owns it. Its as good as eog. Certainly as good as continental resources, but i dont know, its gotten so big so fast. Maybe you cant take it over. Then theres the exxon news, apparently this report on fracking isnt going to come out until the fall, september, sometime around there. But a little more transparency from a company that has a lot of critics saying they should be more transparent. I think im a profracker fan. I drank a beak of the fracking fluid. I think that halliburton has been incredibly open about what fracking means, but people think that exxons hiding something. I dont think they are. But do you know what, the more people who understand it i think is better for exxon because exxon southwest exxon is xto, they want to drill xto being one of the great natural gas companies. But not a great acquisition. Be careful they come right at you. What is their response . Mr. Simpson from xto is mad that he felt he got the better of exxon. Whats the response that says, though, thats not the case . I dont have one. Okay. Just get mad. Thats all. I cant i cant get mad or even back at them because mr. Simpson is a great guy and i helped bring the
Company Public
from goldman, but, yeah, exxon paid too much. At a weird time, too. Yes, indeed. When we come back, cramers mad dash and counting down to the opening bell and the futures looking okay after the jobs number. Well see if it holds when squawk on the street comes back. Back. First day of my life by bright eyes youre not just looking for a house. Youre looking for a place for your life to happen. Or how ornate the halls are. Tall the building is, it doesnt matter if there are granite statues, or big mahogany desks. When working with an investment firm, whats really important is whether the people behind the desks actually stand behind what they say. Introducing the schwab accountability guarantee. If youre not happy with one of our participating
Investment Advisory
services, well refund your program fee from the previous quarter. Its no guarantee against loss and other fees and expenses may still apply. Chuck vo standing by your word, thats what matters the most. Not going to be happy with this. No, youre not man. You havent looked behind you yet. You remember candy crush got you upset with all those things. What is this . They have sandwiches walking around. Oh, my gosh, spongebob, remember that guy with the cucumbers . Never mind. Lets talk mad dash. Yeah. And lets get to sandanter. I didnt mean to distract you. If youre going to say it, say it right. Ubs this morning i thought wed never live to say this raising numbers on sandanter. Its a remarkable thing, carl mentioned the five year, dont be distracted by the bag of fries behind me. The huchlen b ehuman bag of fri this is incredible. What they are talking about real estate exposure and no room for complacency but the macro trade is not well. Bank sandanter has been selling a lot in our country and the world but this stock is not done going higher. If their five year their fiveyear is below ours on the yield. Do you think theres an arbitrage where people are buying our five year and selling their five year . Incredible. Im not talking about the spanish civil war but that country has 27 unemployment. Wow. This is amazing. Look at the move of that in the course of a year. Sandanter has gone from being spedgeive to having maybe the best performing sovereign debt in the world which means the stock is way too cheap. 9 to 12 or 13 without a problem. Youve been a believer no doubt about that. Weve got coming up the live interview with the white house economic adviser jason furman on this mornings job report. Its a very big day for ipos youll see people running around as sand witwiches at the nyse. Were back after this. [ tires screech ] chewleys finds itself in a sticky situation today after recalling its new gum. [ male announcer ] stick it to the market before you get stuck. Get the most extensive charting wherever you are with the mobile trader app from td ameritrade. Youre watching cnbc squawk on the street live from the
Online Food Delivery<\/a> service grubhub, the ceos going to join us after it opens for trading. And exxon the
Worlds Largest<\/a> publicly traded oil company has agreed to disclose more information about the risks of fracking. Were going to tell you why. But first up, the numbers for the march jobs report nonfarm payrolls up 192,000 forecast called for a gain of about 200,000. January and february pay ros revised higher by a combined 37,000. Unemployment rate held steady at 6. 7. There was an increase in job seekers. Average
Hourly Earnings<\/a> fell by a cent. And then people looking at things, guys, like hours worked. Yes. Up 0. 2 hours which given all the talk for pentup demand for labor post winter doesnt seem like much of a payback but thats the debate today. I think just in terms talking about the stock market reaction, yesterday i was thinking all about our nail the number. Because there was this 300,000 number that had spread like wildfire. The winds, david. To desk to desk to desk. And you saw the high multiple stocks contract, collapse, as people said i want to get if its a 300,000 number, i want to go buy every industrial imaginable. Will this whole move yesterday repeal itself . I dont know. Because theres a lot of insiders telling, we have more deals than i can shake a stick at. But that number was dead wrong and thats why you see a little bit of step up. In terms of expectations, goldman was at 200, jpmorgan was at 200,
Morgan Stanley<\/a> was at 200. Only a document had i think the high was 275,000 at deutsche. There was a subrosa number that had crept through. Because every time you said, well, hold it, maybe this is the level where theyre going to stop selling some of the high multiples, you heard, no, its going to continue right into the 300,000 print tomorrow. So, i agree with you, that it all looked like 200. But there was this number underneath that really caused a lot of selling in the afternoon market. Why are futures up so much . I think maybe, you know, the pressures over, the pressure of people selling the high
Growth Stocks<\/a> and go back to that those stocks remember, the nasdaq was down 0. 9 percent. It was hideous yesterday. No. That was we were back to the
First Quarter<\/a>. 2000. It was year 2000. I remember because at that point we had just come public with the street, street. Com, brokers would call me, major desks and say, listen, youll get killed, i know you wont sell the street. But youll get killed. Let me put a high basket on high multiple dotcomes and you can short them and put a collar on and dont get hurt in your own stock. I saw that activity since march of 2000. Brokers frantically working baskets selling high multiple stocks to hedge for
Venture Capital<\/a>ists, to hedge for managements. I have not seen this behavior since 2000 and its theyre wilting. What does it mean . The twotrack market has now i said as long as its kept within the
Hydrogen Fuel<\/a> and the small biotech and the 3d printing, well, now, no, its rife. Its spread. Its spread and theres no firebreak between the high growth and the rest of nasdaq. I think the nasdaq gets a nice little bump here. But you got to sell it. Theres too many deals. I dont like it. I dont like the nasdaq. You dont like the nasdaq. If it rallies. Ims, grubhub, grubhub, look, i understand, i know were going to talk about it. The
Addressable Market<\/a> for takeout is 67 billion. My dad sold takeout bags to restaurants. 67 billion
Addressable Market<\/a>, jim, well, not really, but you understand when we
Start Talking<\/a> about grubhub like grubhub represents colgate maybe or att, grubhub, do they fit together . Is that like do you like that s. A. T. Question . Grubhub is to att as verizon is to to opower. Oprahs got her own stock. Opow, not really, but it puts smiley faces on your bill according to the its got to stop. Its got to stop. We need fewer deals and im telling you the truth theres no correction what i said in the journal. The number and to the economy and the nasdaqs performance, any connection you want to draw here . No, its connected to investors frantically trying to hedge themselves as they watch their fireeye getting cut in half. Were getting the
First Quarter<\/a> performance from hedge funds and you are talking about doubledigit declines because exactly what we were talking about in the
First Quarter<\/a>, particularly the last few weeks of the quarter. They are splunking. They are splunking . Have you seen splunking . I havent. You need a magnifying glass. Some of the stocks are in free fall. Give us splunk. Theyve given up the whole gain for the year. Software as a service has become a series of curse words. It should be added to the late
George Carlins<\/a> list, software as a service goes with the seven other words youre not allowed to say on the air. Software as a service. I told you not to say that. It was buried and i wanted to repeat it. It is it a precursor to the overall market rolling over . In 2000 the money flew out of the nasdaq and went to the s p. I think the s p at 17 times exis okay. You mentioned the bond yields, they are showing theyre not going to 3 anytime soon, so i think the s p is okay. But yesterday if you look at the s p it was basically flat. And the nasdaq in free fall until the last half hour. Thats a dichotomy that people at home have to worry about. Were not done with that selling because the
Venture Capital<\/a>ists and the
Insiders Just<\/a> seem to have no theres no price that they wont go. The mysterious splunk block i thought said everything. The mysterious did you see the in misserious splunk block . I was on acela. Stopped most of the time with no communication. You are the seller of the acela . Yes, identify wrs, i am. I am a buyer of a european fast train. The market that is the
Second Market<\/a> that i dont like was in charge yesterday and it was a little frightening for people to watch these stocks all go down in unison. Many of them using the curse word the chain of curse words i mentioned to you. Your argument to put a cap on it that is not done. No. People who wanted to close the book on the story of march is not over. No. Ims is a real company, grubhub is making money. Opower i sold to you. But this parade has to stop. Theres good solid companies in the s p but we cannot have deal after deal after deal and act as if the supply isnt wrecking a portion of this market. The supply is i was i dont know if you walked outside and got hit by prospectuses. You got to have kind of a canopy to not get hit by new deals. Ss f1s flying all over the place. You need the virtual helmet. You do. Its go to stop. Grubhub, by the way, talking about s1s flying out of windows is going public today. Pricing its ipo at 26 a share. That was above the expected range. The offering value of grubhub at more than 2 billion. The company will trade on the
New York Stock Exchange<\/a> under the
Ticker Symbol<\/a> grub. Were going to bring you the opening trade, of course, and well have a live interview with ceo matt maloney. Weve already gone over what you think about these. 1. 3 billion in gross food sales. Look, i can create a story for anything. It is profitable. Its profitable. Different types of ipos, this ipo obviously and the
Growth Business<\/a> and ism health which is sort of those lets bring it public, lets take it private, lets pay ourselves lots of dividends and lets bring it public. Ism was a service uf uyou uso use to foiind out how is averpr doing and there would also be some drug that you were thinking. Well, maybe this drug is going to accelerate including the statins, a lot of people hit it out of the park using this data. Grubhub a real company, but at the same time because its profitable, they process 135,000 transactions per day. At the same time the symbolism is not lost on me. Because as we say, the ipo parade, i hate to rain on the parade, theres some really nice people going to make a lot of money. But we are overtaxed by deals and i think if i dont sit here and say it because i lived through 2000 and it is just you just dont want it to happen again. Yeah. You dont want to. Any sense of what the window looks like, if this whole year is being frontend loaded because people feel that sense of urgency . I think it is. But, remember, its also followed up by insiders who cant theres no level they wont sell. I dont mean to pick on fireeye, people were saying, jim, you think even the technology is not even as good as you think. But if you look at the fireeye when the stock was at 96 they file a deal, the deal gets priced at 82 14 million shares and it hasnt been able to lift its head. Maybe i can sell some other deals, short splunk against it and viva against it, maybe i short concur. Theres a humongous amount of selling. Humongous. Its not good. To be fair, the supply of stock overall is a lot less than it was a number of years ago. Only nasdaq. The s p i know thats why i say you can coordinate because the buybacks in the s p are cbs, its time warner, viacom. Did you see that
David Letterman<\/a> called leslie moonves. The owner. The man who owns. Owns the network. Leslie does own a lot of stock but thats not quite correct. In davids mind he probably is. But there yeah, master slave there. How much did letterman make last year . There is tightness in the s p because theres not a lot of supply because the insiders dont own like what these guys do over at nasdaq. Right. Hundreds of thousands of shares if you look into of the selling. If you hit up the news of one of these stocks, i wont be too much on my soapbox, but its so much like 2000, scary. Oh, 150,000 shares filed, do this, 2200. And we went with the biotechs its not like 2000, the multiples arent anywhere where they were near, jim. The companies are all profitable. No, theyre not, david. The ratio that are not profitable is higher than in 2000. They are talking about not the facebooks of the world, then. When you say 2000 facebooks a very
Profitable Company<\/a>. When you say 2000 are you referring only to the new issues market . Yes, only to the new issues. The rest of the market is quite different. Facebook let me be very clear, i think theyll report much better than expected numbers and its not expensive at 2015. And google not expensive at all. Valued on revenues are hard to figure out where they should stop going down, thats my point. I want to get some news this morning but i havent told the control room. Take a look at myelin, myl. Theres more news on it. Myl reports it was interested in making a move on a swedish rival. That company, meda, and im not sure if im pronouncing it correctly has put out a statement saying yeah, we did speak to mylan, they came to us regarding an indicative proposal to combine the two businesses and the board convened and they decided to reject the proposal. All continued discussions have been terminated without further action. Terminated with extreme prejudice . What is this apocalypse now . Said discussions were terminated without further action. Decided to reject the proposal. I wanted to share that, because mylan shares are yup sharply. And they may reverse. Swedish tax regime versus u. S. Tax regime, its an arbitrage. It would have created a colossus. And it would have been another tax inversion. The idea that youll get any sort of big tax reform bill or
Corporate Tax<\/a> changes, but these continue to move quickly and mylan is dealing with so many of its competitors that have already inverted whether it be to ireland or somewhere else. Really have to watch the story the offshore regime happening right in front of the president and congress. They dont seem to be aware of it. Too busy talking about i dont know what. Got other issues on their plate trying to put some headlines on the back page instead of the front page. Exactly right. When we come back exxonmobil speaking to headlines is in the news and fracking has a lot to do with it. Well talk about that. Also ahead the first reaction from the white house to this mornings jobs numbers and well talk to jason furman the chairman of the president s council of economic advisers. One more look at futures the jobs number if you missed it this morning 192 and the
Unemployment Rate<\/a> at 6. 7. The threemonth average at 177. Were back in a minute. Friday night, buddy. You are gonna need a wingman. And my cash back keeps the party going. But my
Airline Miles<\/a> take it worldwide. [ male announcer ] it shouldnt be this hard. With creditcards. Com, its easy to search hundreds of cards and apply online. Creditcards. Com. But with so much health care noise, i didnt always watch out for myself. With unitedhealthcare, i get personalized information and rewards for addressing my health risks. But shes still gonna give me a heart attack. Thats health in numbers. Unitedhealthcare. Exxonmobil has agreed to disclose more information about the environmental risks of fracking this after negotiations with investors and environmental groups. Wall street firms racing price targets on anadarko after a settlement with the
Government Regarding<\/a> environmental cleanup claims, its the biggest cash settlement regarding the environment in history, guys. At the same time i was worried about an 8 billion settlement. Or even 10 or 14. Remember when the judge came out with the unexpected range i know. They were asking for 20. And apc was down sharply. The stock was up 14. 5 yesterday anadarko. Do you think, though, this having removed the liability increases the takeover chatter game again because it becomes more real . Nobody is worried as much as the liability. When you look at exxon and what they have to do to grow, they have to buy a company the size of anadarko. I think the world of their management and theyve got
Great Properties<\/a> and selling off some. Anadarko has been the bluest chip of the speindependents, if were royal dutch, i would make a tender. My
Charitable Trust<\/a> owns it. Its as good as eog. Certainly as good as continental resources, but i dont know, its gotten so big so fast. Maybe you cant take it over. Then theres the exxon news, apparently this report on fracking isnt going to come out until the fall, september, sometime around there. But a little more transparency from a company that has a lot of critics saying they should be more transparent. I think im a profracker fan. I drank a beak of the fracking fluid. I think that halliburton has been incredibly open about what fracking means, but people think that exxons hiding something. I dont think they are. But do you know what, the more people who understand it i think is better for exxon because exxon southwest exxon is xto, they want to drill xto being one of the great natural gas companies. But not a great acquisition. Be careful they come right at you. What is their response . Mr. Simpson from xto is mad that he felt he got the better of exxon. Whats the response that says, though, thats not the case . I dont have one. Okay. Just get mad. Thats all. I cant i cant get mad or even back at them because mr. Simpson is a great guy and i helped bring the
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Financial Capital<\/a> of the world on a friday. Busy morning. A jobs number. A bunch of ipos and, of course, the opening bell set to ring in a couple minutes. We actually have four ipos today and well be waiting for trades out of grubhub pricing at 26 and they boosted the range from the low 20s. Power pricing at 19. Ism health at 20 the biggest tech ipo so far this year and over at the nasdaq five nine pricing at 7 below the range. Which one are you watching the most . I am not watching ims. I was watching for fervor. I was chatting with a chicken caesar wrap, im not kidding, theres someone dressed as a chicken caesar wrap and no doubt on wraps, and im watching the grubhub measure of enthusiasm, if you remember during the period, im talking about the ipos. If you remember the enthusiasm in 1999 and 2000. If you like the service, if you like the website, you bought the stock. Lots of people like grubhub, a lot of my friends use grubhub. I personally do not. Nor does my restaurant. But this is when youre here talking to a slice of pepper reaspepperroni pizza, it has a level of absurdity. Well come back to the 2000 analogy. Did you ever talk to a slice of pizza in 2000 . No. But i saw a lot of companies that had absolutely no
Business Model<\/a> that literally had put it together on a napkin and any bank said its a great idea, lets take it public. Three weeks later it was gone. And its a
Profitable Company<\/a> and by the way, the wrap was very nice. Theres a piece of salmon, that shows you that times have changed. Salmon, not cheeseburger. You have the
Pepperoni Pizza<\/a> on the other side. That could be low fat cheese. Theres the opening bell and a look at the s p at the top of your screen. At the big board grubhub the online and mobile
Food Ordering Company<\/a> celebrating its ipo. We are going to talk to ceo
Matthew Maloney<\/a> in the next hour. Over at the nasdaq five nine, a provider of
Cloud Software<\/a> for
Contact Centers<\/a> also celebrating its ipo today. You raise a really interesting question about the marketing of all of this. Because you cant blame companies for wanting to market. No. If thats their going public strategy. On the other hand, if they are having to be loud because it is so crowded, thats a different thats a different story. I think that theres a mixture of companies that are selling times revenues and selling times earnings. I think i accept i accept a little more fervor for grubhub because it sells times earnings. But my problem is the fervor itself. Because fervor is not a great thing. You want a little more subdued. Ims, i hope that deal goes a dollar, maybe two dollars not more than that. That would be good. It probably will. Its an important and a big deal, but as you say, it wont likely be met with enormous amounts of fervor or on the other side, you know, not likely to break syndicate. The private equity firms and sellers there. Its been a successful thing for them. Thats true. But i worry that what i look at is the sea of insider sellers six months from now producing more supply. This market that part of the market cant handle more supply. The
New York Stock Exchange<\/a> part can. I mean, the old line. Old line. Theres three. Theres old line. Theres new economy. Which im fine if its making money. And then theres ipos that have been late in the food chain here. And i just think that im just worried about that one, the nasdaq, that you talked about below the range. Im worried about some of the biotech. Im concerned. Im concerned. Okay. Sure. All right. And i dont think anybody can begrudge you that. People might look for other sort of touchstones in this narrative from a few months ago, a twitter perhaps, which had a nice run. Right. The lockups do expire and its now back to the mid40s. Is that a cautionary tale . You know, look, there was this wave, i dont know if you remember, a wave of restaurants was really excited about, the thing with restaurants is that natural and fresh is really good. Potbelly. Take a look at potbelly. Theres a company that came public and opened at 33 and today is at 17. Thats not a two for one split, potbelly is not exactly a when i think of potbelly, i dont think of sixpack abs. Do you think of that when you think of potbelly . No, i dont. We just mentioned twitter. That move from 73 which, by the way, if you remember the runup to 70something was absurd. Incredible. And how is the stock doing today . And the slowing growth rate and dealing with the scaffolding around the service to make it easier for people to use so you could fix that but now were back to 43. No earnings on the horizon as opposed to facebook where identify sai said theres great earnings profile. Thank you, david, coming to the light side from the dark side over there for a second and recognizing there are two kinds of companies. There are companies that are hope. And then there are companies that i can give a price to earnings multiple to and if i can have a price to earnings multiple, im much more comfortable. There are. But you might be better off some would say taking the risk on
Something Like<\/a> that where theres a great deal of opportunity. Those who believed in amazon in his early days and priceline could have said the same thing about those companies have been rewarded multiple times over. Thats a great point and priceline sells 19 times earnings with a 19 growth rate. It does now but in the early days after it went public i went to visit priceline and thank heavens theres an office and desk and people on phones so i knew it was for real. Thats the kind of boots on the
Ground Research<\/a> i had to do for dotcomes back then, knock on the door, find the door is not a phony hollywood set. It is true. Every company, though, is not amazon as you know better than anyone. Not every company can manage to be able to pull off 100 billion market capitalization without ever showing a profit. No, very few can. But they do generate
Free Cash Flow<\/a> and thats what theyre based on and thats what their investors look at that and sales growth which has still been astonishing. And the cloud has cash flow. The company we work for is when the
Free Cash Flow<\/a> exploded. Maybe im being overly skepti l skeptical. Maybe i cant take being surrounded by, like, you know, im back with my kids when they were 3 and 5 and were watching human videos of an its crabby patty. Yeah. Crabby patty. I got crabby pattys here. The banana splits, do you remember them . Micron is the second biggest gainer on the s p. This is dram and flash. In the
Conference Call<\/a> they do say, listen, theres some supply but the
Gross Margins<\/a> really held up well. They tell a multipleyear story. I was quite impressed with the micron management. That was the best micron call i have heard. I expected the stock not to be able to sustain this. This stock is not going up and the needham call that it could go to 40 a little aggressive. Hyper starts it with a buy. I did like mu, its not done. Its not done. A lot of love notes from the sell side for micron today. Its very inexpensive stock. All right. With all that, lets get back to the jobs number here this morning. Nonfarm payrolls if you missed it came in at 192,000, that was slightly below the 200,000 consensus. Unemployment remains steadily at 6. 7 and lets get the first reaction from the white house first on
Cnbc Jason Furman<\/a> the chairman on the president s council of economic advisers. Good to see you this morning. Good to be here. After all that winter and all that socalled pentup demand for labor, is 192 satisfactory in the white houses view . I think this is consistent with the steady, solid recovery weve had. Weve now had 49 straight months of private sector job growth, a total of 8. 9 million jobs. When youre asking about the weather, i think weve probably ended up seeing that more on hours than the total number of jobs. Hours fell a lot in those cold months. Hours recovered strongly in the month of march. 0. 2 hours, right . Was that as much as you were expecting . You saw that and in manufacturing you saw 0. 4 and the highest on record in manufacturing average weekly hours. All right. So all right. Manufacturing in terms of jobs added, you know, a lot of this, jason, came out of services, it came out of temp, it came out of bars and restaurants. How anxious are you to see that shift into some more substantive sectors . I think if you look at the sectoral pattern of job growth this past month, it was very consistent with the pace over the last year. You saw a lot of jobs, for example, in construction which is going to be has been an important source of our recovery and its important that it continues to be that way. Manufacturing was revised up and very strong in the month of february. You take the last two months together and it is on pace for a stronger manufacturing recovery than weve had in the last 15 years in this country. All right, jason, jim cramer here. I just want to puzzle over this
Public Policy<\/a> issue. Negative real earnings growth. I know the administration is very proimmigration. Im just wondering how will increasing the labor supply from more immigration actually increase wages . Because that mystifies me. Its a very simple answer to that. Higher productivity growth. You bring people in. You take the people here and give them greater certainty to make the investments they need to start businesses, that expands the economys productivity. That raises wages. Well, i also know some immigrants im very worried, i have kids in college that have tremendous student debt, i have the wherewithal, but many people dont, versus our own students that have a lot of student debt. How do we equalize that with student debt . Theres a whole issue around student debt thats unrelated to the issue on immigration. And thats why we focus on things like the historic expansions in pell grants, the reform to the student loan program, and, you know, continuing to push on access for college. So, i think thats a critical part of the agenda and that, by the way, is a good way to expand
Economic Growth<\/a> while reducing inequality and expanding opportunity. Jason, to those who would say, you know, its very important to keep an eye on wage growth and in particular here we still are looking at sort of working families, it eluding them so to speak, and hope for
Consumer Spending<\/a> more broadly across the economy is going to be based on that. What are your thoughts . We faced several decades of challenge when it comes to wage growth, when it comes to inequality. In the last year and a half, we have actually started to see some real wage growth as the
Unemployment Rate<\/a> has come down. Thats put a little bit more pressure on markets. A little bit upward pressure on wages but theres a lot more we need to do and one very obvious thing we can do, the president s actively pushing is raising the minimum wage. We saw connecticut raise its minimum wage to 10. 10 an hour. Wed like to see other states do that. Wed like to see employers do that. Weve done with our federal employees and the country as a whole should do it, too. The senate is going to vote so monday on the bipartisan bill to restore the longterm unemployment benefits. Is the job market
Strong Enough<\/a> in your view that the benefits should be allowed to expire for some folks . Were making progress on unemployment but the longterm
Unemployment Rate<\/a> is still our biggest cyclical economic challenge. Its twice what it was on average before the
Great Recession<\/a> began, so i think its entirely appropriate to continue the
Unemployment Insurance<\/a> benefits and its important to understand as
Unemployment Rate<\/a>s come down, those extended benefits automatically phase down. Theyre really there, you know, in the biggest way for the states with the highest
Unemployment Rate<\/a>s. If you have a low
Unemployment Rate<\/a>, you dont get nearly as many extra weeks. Well see what the senate does on monday. Mostly expected to pass that bipartisan bill. Jason, thanks for coming to the camera. Appreciate it. Well see you next month. Thanks for having me. Jason furman over at the white house. The dow up 30 and the s p up 1894. Not far away from 1900. Lets get to pisani on the floor and see whats moving. A lot today, bob. There is. Were at historic highs on the dow jones and the industrials. Heres the talk of the day. Take a look at grubhub, remember, 23 to 25 was talk. It priced at 26. 38 to 43 are the indications right now. This stock could very likely open in the 40s. That would be a moon shot for sure. Ims health is right over here. This is the crowd here for ims health and 18 to 21 was the price talk and it priced at 20 and indications are 21 to 23 on the upside, but its a huge ipo close to 1. 5 billion, 1. 4 billion and an enormous cash. I cant see opower, i cant get an indication but they produce cloudbased power with the
Utility Industry<\/a> and they priced at the high end of the price range, priced at 19 cant get you an indication. And the nasdaq five nine on demand software for cloudbased call centers they priced at 7 below the 9 to 11 price target. Ipo market strong but off its highs. That is the etf nor tfor the lao ipo. Renaissance puts this up and started in october and ran up 20 in march had a problem because all the momentum names largely were ipos in the last year or so. We saw that come down here. It was up yesterday but as you can see off of the highs. Take a look at the s p futures because the economy is getting better. At least the job market is. The revisions in the nonfarm payrolls is what moved the s p futures up early on. Helping us hit new highs overall. The
Labor Force Participation<\/a> rate moved up as well here. But i want to address your point, jim, earlier, about a twotrack market. We put up the full screen. We hit alltime highs yesterday but the leadership is to be frank with you yesterday was the ugliest alltime high i think ive seen in my life. We ended up 21 declining to advancing stocks and the line is having real problems right now. Weve got a lot of heavy leverage. Margin debt is at an allteam high so thats what you want to keep an eye on. Todays a big test. You want to keep the leadership up. Gold mining stocks the leadership had a wobbly time, still up, the biotech stocks and emerging markets do well. Health care is the leader and micron a really terrific
Earnings Report<\/a> that company has really turned around 2 billion more in revenues than they had a year ago. Right now indications on grubhub remains here at 38 to 43. This stock will open in the 40s. Hold on. Ims just opening at 22. 18 this was the stock, remember, that was a very big company just opened at 22. 18. Pricing at 20. Guys, back to you. Good for about an 11 gain. Thanks so much, bob. With all that well come back to post five in a moment but lets get to
Rick Santelli<\/a> at the economy, rick . Thanks, carl. Well, if you like the treasury market give you its thoughts on the jobs number, all yields are lower before the number. That usually implies disappointment in some fashion. You can handicap it, but it was really mostly about the yield curve. It flattened dramatically after the last fed meeting and look what happened today. Heres an intraday of fives. You see that huge drop . Close to eight basis points. Now look at the 30 year. It really net change other than a little volatility hardly moved at all. Now, if we really want to
Pay Attention<\/a> to this dynamic, we need to look at the yield curve. Look at the fives to 30s intraday spread. Eight basis points of steepening. The proactive part was the short end. The short end has been the proactive part since the fed me meet, of course. Now, if we want to look at specific maturities to get a face on it and the perspective, the five year even though the yields moved down dramatically you can see this chart going to last fall. That it really shows that that rate readjustment is still mostly intact from fed day. Contrast that chart to the yeartodate chart of tens, still comping back towards january. Whats the postmortem with regard to the euro and the meeting and the hinting of qe . You know, if everything is great, of course, you dont need to talk about qe. Just like the labor secretary. If the economy is great and he liked the numbers, then you ask him about, well, whats going on with jobless benefits . Whoa, story changes real fast there twoday of the euro, definitely deterioration. Maybe not as quick but twoday charts are great. Were
Building Momentum<\/a> to the downside and establishing a trade under 137 and if you open that chart up a bit you can clearly see that the euro if you were a technician maybe 134. Carl, all yours. All right, rick, thank you very much. Lets take your attention to post five where grubhub has just opened at 40. 63. Bob, you ever there . We opened at exactly 40, i believe, and remember the point about the stock here. We were talking about, oh, what was it 23 to 25 was the price talk a couple of days ago and they had raised that already, so it priced at 26, just opened at 40 here and you can see a lot of family members and a lot of grubhub people right here. Some wives, family members over here. This is one of the great things about being on the floor of the
New York Stock Exchange<\/a>, see a lot of family people all throughout here, in the back there and theres a lot of people just sitting around highfiving here. Obviously some people have made some serious money this morning and we all approve of that. Theres some executives over there you can see in the crowd. The
Stock Holding<\/a> up 39. 60. A lot of hugging going on on the side there. Family members and younger people and older people all in the back there. So, again, a very happy day for the grubhub crowd. Guys, back to you. All right, thank you, bob. Gyour reaction . Ebita is growing to that and no one wants to hear this can earn 30 cents or 50 cents next year. I look at the multiple, the pricetoearnings multiple on that and say the stock is expensive. Im just being very clinical on a p e basis its expensive. They have an adjusted ebita at 38 billion. At least they got it. Got some cash flow. The oneeyed king. You are darn right. You are darn right. Every single man. Twoeyed man. Ims i like better than grubhub. Grubhub is part of what i worry about, hes a very expensive stock and people dont really seem to care bit right now and they are thrilled. Its growing a lot faster than ims health. Okay. Workday is the
Fastest Growing<\/a> company ive ever seen. Okay. Workday, all right, and i think workday is a fabulous company. You wouldnt want to own it this week. No, the stocks were rolling over again today. Take a look at the nasdaq and its rolling over again. Biotech is rolling over again. Rocket fuel, its a black hole and a good company. Just watching the tape and just saying amazon rolling over again. Theyre rolling over. Yeah, this is a new low for the year on amazon. For this you got to go back to basically halloween, just prior to halloween, to get a price this low on amzm. Does it matter . Maybe it does, maybe it doesnt. Maybe its a good entry point if you are a believer in the longterm growth theory of many of these companies. I dont want to disagree about that. The stocks have given up gains and the stocks have really been under a lot of pressure and i just think that if youre going to start a position maybe you wait until the sellings over for heavens sake. Facebook is a
Profitable Company<\/a>. Grubhub is a
Profitable Company<\/a>. Its not google and we didnt talk about the nest and how that kind of didnt work out. You are absolutely taking out risk. But these are not deep
Business Model<\/a>s the likes of which we were seeing at the late stage of the bubble. Earlier, okay, there. Priceline got a situation where its very profitable. Sells at 19 times earnings and the stock is under pressure. Theres a lot of money coming out of the existing nasdaq to buy the grubhubs. No, you take a profit in priceline and then you get maybe you get 100,000 shares of grubhub on the deal and average up. You think thats the dynamic about what is going on for why the high multiple stocks are coming down . The insiders are selling and the economy is a little better. Frankly i got to tell you the unemployment number is not perfect for the market. We are all thinking its kind of perfect. Interest rates are come down and we dont necessarily want
Interest Rates<\/a> coming down if you work at a financial. The financials needed
Interest Rates<\/a> going up a little. This is not that great for the industrials that people piled into. Its not good, not bad. But i just i guess i just i promised myself after that street. Com debacle which i still work at and was the founder, i promised myself if i ever sat here when a stock was priced at 20 and opened to 63 and went to a dollar that i would remind people that this can happen. Now, we werent profitable. But im just saying, you know, i feel like its my duty. Its my duty. I wish we could bump out of here with once bitten and twice shy. Thank you. Well be back with grubhubs ceo
Matthew Maloney<\/a> in just a minute. Squawk on the streets coming right back. Welcome back. Im eamon javers in washington where attorney general eric holder has just confirmed that the department of justice is, in fact, investigating
High Frequency<\/a> trading for possible
Insider Trading<\/a> violations. Let me read you what attorney general holder just said in a capitol hill hearing a few moments ago, this practice which consists of
Financial Brokers<\/a> and trading firms using advanced computer algorithms to execute trades has rightly received scrutiny from regulators. I can confirm that we at the
United States<\/a> department of justice are investigating this practice to see whether it violates
Insider Trading<\/a> laws. The department is committed to ensuring the integrity of our
Financial Markets<\/a> and were determined to follow this investigation wherever the facts and the law may lead. Now, carl, one of the interesting questions here going into this investigation is where is the hft overlap with potential
Insider Trading<\/a> violations . Will they look at a technological piece of knowledge as actual
Insider Trading<\/a>type knowledge. And say that if you had that knowledge a few milliseconds ahead of everybody else in the market, thats insider traffeding. Hat would be an unusual perhaps new interpretation of the law but that could be what were looking at here, carl. Well have to wait and see what the department of justice and the fbi in new york come up with. Thank you, eamon. Eamon javers bringing us that story. You can just imagine all these regulators trying to define a millisecond advantage as a material, not
Public Information<\/a> is sort of an odd its a front run but i dont think its but it is kind of amade izing a book comes out ane stuff has been going on for years. The times did a fabulous job. No one cares. So interesting how they be interesting to talk to the rank and file, all of those under ling underlings and say where are we on this thing. Weve been working on it for a long time. Lets get in front of a microphone. This is fulcrum day. You have got to see these stocks stop going down. Im talking about the high multiple stocks. Facebook. Heres one thats also a great indicator. Solarcity. This is it. Deutsche bank draws a line in the sand says this is the right level to buy. Its underperformed the market and its 88 to 60. If you see solarcity be able to hold then i think you can say maybe theres a shortterm bottom in this. You see facebook, facebooks got to hold. It was a technical level at 59. It didnt hold. Its breaking down if you want to see the reverse they have to reverse today. They have to reverse. Today . Today. Today. Today . Im drawing a solarcity line in the sand. They have to stop going down or its going to be the beginning of the end of the of the huge nasdaq run that is really based on
Exciting Technology<\/a> as opposed to inexpensive stock. Yeah. So much for that selling pressure being month a calendar issue. Thank you. It turned out not to be. Watch facebook and solarcity and you can watch twitter which is under a huge amount of pressure. They have to bottom or this will be interminable because theres deal after deal after deal. The stock has no support. The sellers have to walk away. And i dont see the sellers walking away yet. But todays the day. Solarci solarcity, twitter, facebook, let those be your beta curve. You got a big show tonight . Yes. Wrapping up a busy week . Nrg has done the most to profit off of solar power. Doing the right thing. David crane is a visionary. He thinks the whole grid is corrupted and that the next generation knows it and will be distributed power. Hes the great thinker in the utility section. Why there isnt a google or amazon, why there isnt an apple of youvetili tiutilities. He wants to be that. A very smart guy. Princeton. Friends of elliott, by the way to throw it out there. Have a great weekend, jim. See you monday. Thank you. The ceo of grubhub on his companys wall street debut. Up 42 . Were back in a minute. Back in t hospitals using
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Steve Liesman<\/a> has more detail. Whats fascinating after all of the debate the job gain that we had last month and the month before is basically what we had in the 12 months to december, no great change overall. Yeah. We just had the one dip and then youre right, they revised it back. But this is a solid report, simon, that suggest the economy regaining some of the weather related losses and making the bulls look smart. The bears that thought the economy was weakening not looking so pressient these days. A very solid jobs report that has seen payroll growth over the last two months revert to the trend. Morgan stanley saying that weather impacts moderated substantially but not completely supporting the improvement job growth and should hours continue to creep higher employers are likely to ramp up their hiring efforts thats a forwardlooking component. Lets look back. The number was at 8 30192,000 just below the estimate but the revisions make it all seem okay because you added 37,000 other jobs,
Unemployment Rate<\/a> 6. 7. Average hourly wages up and hours worked up 0. 2 percent and where are the jobs . Education, health care, the places you might expected it. Leisure, hospitality and professional and businesser ises up 57,000 and temporary help up 29,000. Construction doing pretty well and retail rebounding from a string of losses. Want to show you one other aspect the labor force. Weve had gains in the labor force for several months. Yeah, we do. Thats very nice. Four actually make it five of the last six months weve had people come into the workforce there and thats half a million the last time around. Maybe a sign of a better market attracting people. Overall the report
Strong Enough<\/a> to suggest strength and momentum in the economy. I dont think its
Strong Enough<\/a> to suggest the fed needs to change its course or its tact here. The taper should continue unchange ed the outlook for the second half of 2014. Thanks very much, good to see you, steve. Lets look at the
Market Impact<\/a> right now. Stocks are slightly higher right now. Theyre pretty much mixed if the factor in the nasdaq with the dow up 26 points after that jobs report. Lets bring in jim paulson chief investment strategist with
Wells Capital<\/a> management. Jims been a bull on the u. S. Stock market. You think this jobs report was solid enough to keep the rally going . I do, sara. I think, you know, the best description to me of this jobs report is its goldilocks. It wasnt wasnt too weak to create fear among stock investors of a weak economy and cause the fed to reconsider its tapering pace. But it was also wasnt the too strong that would raise the specter of raising bond yields or increase the conversation about whether the fed has to speed tapering. I think what this means is its going to put people in the mindset that the economys accelerated for the rest of this year up towards 3 and i think thats going to mean that the momentum in the stock market keeps upward and will probably break through 1900 on the way to 2000 soon. We want to bring in david kelley. David, status quo improvement is the takeaway from jim paulson on this jobs report not enough to move the needle in terms of fed policy, but enough to keep the rally going, you agree . Yeah, i do. I think this is one of the rare reports which is good for both the bond market and the stock market. I think the most important thing is the growth in the labor force, the backing away of wage growth to suggest the fed has got a little bit more runway. But i think its important for investors to realize they still dont have enough runway. Longterm
Interest Rates<\/a> are still way too low i believe given the trajectory of the economy. Given the fact that we should be back to full employment i think within the next two to three years. So, i think we will see longterm
Interest Rates<\/a> back up from here even though this report shouldnt be too concerning for the bond market. I love the jobs report because there are so many gems in it. But one of them that increasingly it looks like traders, investors, economists are foe kus cused on is averagey earnings. Were not seeing the wage growth. Were not seeing the
Wage Inflation<\/a> and therefore the fed has as long as it wants. Would you agree with that assessment . I think that might become problematic this year to tell you the truth. We did get an outsized 0. 4 increase last month, sara, and then it was unchanged this month but when you put the two months together it was it wasnt really that weak because you maintain that 0. 4 increase last month. Were running 2. 1, 2. 2. I think wage numbers year on year if they get above 2. 5 towards 3 that will get a lot of attention from the bond market and it will get more attention from the fed. And i just think that with unemployment if it starts moving below 6. 5 and we get a wage report which puts us 2. 5 to 3 , youre going to start to increase the panic a little bit about inflationary and whether the fed has to speed. I think that might be an issue yet before the years out. Do you know, david, we should credit you, you were the first to come out really clearly a couple of months ago, certainly this year and say you thought maybe the fed was behind the curve and subsequently and that it would have to more rapidly move and subsequently to that yellen came out and said, you know, maybe wed have rates rising by the spring of next year and we all know whats happened subsequent to that. That said, that, that you were out ahead of the curve, that you informed us of what the cutting edge of thought was, how can you still say that the fed is in that position when the wage growth is just the same as we had all of last year . This isnt really an accelerating picture. Theres no snapback from the poor figures we had at the heart of winter. No, i think there is there is a technical issue with regard to wage growth when you got very bad weather in a given month and i think that caused a spike last month and we got a little bit of a payback here. What we are seeing is a labor market that is still tightening and my biggest problem is you have to assume a much diminished pace of unemployment decline over the next two years to actually hit the feds targets. I think the unemployment will come down faster than they think and theres a very strong statistical relationship between the
Unemployment Rate<\/a> and wage growth. We are running out of competent workers in this country. As theres a scramble to get those competent workers, wages will get pushed up. Its pretty much an iron law of economics as that
Unemployment Rate<\/a> comes down the wage rate will tick up. I think were definitely on that trend and thats eventually going to force longterm
Interest Rates<\/a> higher than they are now. Jim, theres been a lot of charts trying to overlay the last 84 or so with the events leading up to 1987. I know youve weighed in on some of that. Yeah. When you look at multiples, how much in danger are we of not just a correction but a violent one . Well, the multiples in 87 when we went up 40 in the first nine months of that year from 1900 to 2700 on the dow, the multiples peaked out at 2700 at exactly 20 times earnings. So, were quite a ways from that. Were probably sitting more, like, 17. If we make a run, then that could be interest. I think theres been a lot of similarity from the getgo in these two bull markets because both, carl, were initiated ed and 2009 and they climbed wall of worries and in 1987 it changed to acceptance of a recovery and were starting to accept this recovery now. So, i think there is some rhyming going on between the two cycles. I dont think were going to have a severe a collapse. I just dont see that. But could we get a correction maybe later this year orrer in the following year . And a similar period where as david suggests that we start worrying a little about
Wage Inflation<\/a>, i think thats possible and it could come right on schedule with what happened in 1987. All right. Thanks, gentlemen. So far, i mean, 0. 2 percent average
Hourly Earnings<\/a> we arent seeing it much. Well have to wait to see. Thank you very much. Dows up 33. Lets get over to dominick chu and get our first market flash of the day. Hey, dom. Hey, carl. Up even more is mylan, its up 12 in the premarket up 6 in the regular trade so far. It made a bid for swedic drugmaker meta that would have created a 24 billion generic drug behemoth but the offer was rejected and mylan lost half the gains, but its the lead gainer in the s p 500 up about 6. 5 , carl, back over to you. Dom, thanks a lot. When we come back, the debate over
High Frequency<\/a> trading. Its been going on all week long and getting more heated today. The department of justice now investigating it. Theres eric holder trying to determine whether it violates
Insider Trading<\/a> laughs. Jim stewart of the
New York Times<\/a> will join us live to weigh in. And later the ipo parade continues today. Grubhub, of course, causing quite a stir over at post five. The ceo is going to join us live here at post nine a little bit later on. For the year. Hi. Sorry. Just want to say, i bundled home and auto with state farm, saved 760 bucks. Love this guy. So sorry. Okay, does it bother anybody else that the mime is talking . Frrreeeeaky [ male announcer ] savings worth talking about. State farm. E frrreeeeaky financial noise financial noise financial noise financial noise anybody have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating . One
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High Frequency<\/a> trading and the hearing there you can see on capitol hill continues. Joining us here in the meantime james stewart, pulitzer prizewinning columnist at the
New York Times<\/a>. Good morning. Good morning. Good to be here. How far do you think this will go . Its fascinating to find out. I have to hand it to
Michael Lewis<\/a> and his bock, he put a spotlight on it. Its not a new issue. Journalists have been all over it. The s. E. C. Has been looking in to it. Its a very complex subject. I think making criminal charges out of this will be difficult but i welcome the investigation. You have people making apparently millions if not billions of dollars with no risk. That is not the market that we expect. Your colleagues, your rivallings at the
Financial Times<\/a> point out the debate is four or five years old and the height of the crisis when the markets were liquid you could make a lot of money doing what they do, maybe 7 billion, 8 billion a year and now they are possibly making 1 billion theyve moved away from the u. S. Stock market. This isnt as hot an issue here on this floor as it was. I think thats right. And i think, you know, the argument, the counterargument here is theres an immense amount of liquidity that has been brought to bear and has narrowed the spread and has been a good thing for investors and, you know, the fact that theyre making some money is to be expected in that sort of environment. I think the investigation is needed. The flash crash anniversary is coming up in may or june, very soon. The fourth anniversary. We still dont understand what happened there. And i find that very, very frustrating as a journalist and an investor. How similar is this conversation to the one we had about the
Early Release<\/a> of data by, for example,
Thompson Reuters<\/a> which you did a lot of work on at the time . Yes. Harvey pitts said its important to have a level
Playing Field<\/a> but people need financial incentives to dig up information. It helps the marketplace. In other words, it shouldnt be totally level. Theres a similarity here, isnt there . There is a similarity here. And i think its going to require some policy decisions about what kind of information is in some kind of
Public Domain<\/a> that everyone should have access to. Stock prices generally have been considered to be sort of a commodity that all investors should get at the same time. That hasnt been happening here. These milliseconds and maybe it needs to be thought through. But that may be a subject for regulation. Its hard for me to say on the face of it that its a crime when it has never really been no ones really had any roadmap for how to handle it. A lot of the algo writers are triing to put out a defense how is it illegal for me to write better code than you . Exactly. What do we want to discourage and encourage and what are the broader costs around it. It does need thorough investigation. I hope its been getting and i hope it will get more now, so i welcome the investigations but im very cautious about saying now, oh, my god, this is a crime we should be throwing people in jail. On the regulatory front, the book refers to the flash crash and the fact they were talking about minutes and seconds that regulators didnt even seem to have adjusted their timeline to milliseconds not to mention a millionth of a second the way these things are actually happening to your point where they really couldnt even understand what actually was going on. He doesnt really go into that but if youve read the s. E. C. Report on that, it is completely unsatisfying. It does not answer the question of what really happened and who is responsible. And ive always felt thats been a glaring hole in the regulatory approach to this whole thing, and i would love to see some definitive answers there and that might suggest some regulation. I think weve got to start with the facts and then see is regulation and possibly prosecution called for. Given the fact that this debate has been renewed this week just over the last seven days, really, since he appeared on 60 minutes,
Michael Lewis<\/a>, the author, do you think that there is a credibility lost in the markets and part of the
Retail Investor<\/a> . Do uf think thyou think the tru . I havent seen much of that. Ive talked to a lot of investo investors, but one of the problems from an investor point of view on an individual trade were talking maybe a penny or a half of a penny or something smaller which is smaller than they were paying under the old system, so i dont know, you know, i dont even pick up a penny on the sidewalk. I think is a really important point to make because to people sitting at home it looks like the market is broken and the market is not broken. Its a safer market than it ever was before, jim. Ever. Absolutely. I dont think we should miss the forest for the trees here and try to maintain fairness, i think a measured approach will be called for. I know you cant talk about the way lewis constructed the book because i reviewed it. Ill talk about it next week. I have a lot to say. But having written books that would be like this, is there anything right or wrong with his methodology or approach . Ill save that until next week. Whats the column for this sunday going to be on . The crisis in law schools and not just law schools but
Higher Education<\/a> generally,
Law School Applications<\/a> are slucmping. There are way too many law schools and they are starting to lo and behold academia cut the price of tuition. Unheard of in
Higher Education<\/a>. And i think this is a really important trend. Sit going to work . Will it spread . It means cutting down on merit aid. It has very biggismplications but the law schools are the canaries in the coal mine. Are they changing the promise that you can have a good job at the end . They cant do. About that with law firms not hiring the way they were. Theyre doing what they can but they can lower the cost side and i think its an encouraging sign, they are actually starting to respond as any business would in a similar situation. Great to see you. James stewart joining us there from the
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Everything Else<\/a> its been spectacular. But you siteve cited it as a risk factor in terms of bringing them together, so what are the potential risks in doing that . I think were through almost all of the integration, really theres just a technical integration that were executing right now. But from an organizational perspective, a product perspective, a data perspective, from a service perspective, a, b, c, d, e, were integrated into one
Strong Company<\/a> thats why we were able to list as soon as after the close of our merger late last year. The restaurants are doing all the work and paying you and i can see its average ten per of the order is what they pay you in fees for you to basically put their menus online and to transmit the order. You know that. There will be people that will come into the space presumably that will do it more cheaply and then youre going to be on the run. I mean, you have a great first mover advantage, but did how long did groupon stay as groupon . Weve got tremendous value to restaurants and diners as it grow. On the diners side its free and easy to order. Ordering through your as a matter of factphone and an app is much, much better than calling it in from a paper menu and from the restaurant side there really arent very many options for the restaurants to build their takeout business. For now. But theres bound to be movers in this space, arent there . Theres bound to be other people that offer a cloud application. Remember, its a twosided network that gets stronger over time and as we continue to innovate. Weve been fundamentally, weve defined the industry for the past ten years we integrate aggressively and we give the restaurants tablets, for example, to make them more effective at what they do and were able to provide realtime updates for diners so you know when your foods done being prepared, when its out the door and when its almost at your house, so its innovations like that which define grubhub and seamless and were aggressively continuing to
Grow Business<\/a> on the restaurants behalf. I want to take this in a somewhat different direction. Recently carl icahn has talked a great deal about the presence of
Venture Capital<\/a>ists on
Public Company<\/a> boards. Bill gurley is on your board of directors from benchmark. They also own a lot of yelp which i assume is a competitor to yours. Peter fenton is on the board of yelp. Why should i feel comfortable with having bill gurley on your board when benchmark also owns yelp . Bill gurley is an incredible asset to the country and hes a smart guy. In terms of yelp and grubhub i would look at them differently. Why . I would say yelp is more like a trip adviser really broad and narrow. A lotnovations on the web side. Were here for the transaction. Everything that we do is about that transaction and making reducing the frictions, the transaction costs and increasing flexibility and transparency for diners ultimately and by addressing everything on this transaction we see our business grow tremendously over time. We own this space. Having a yelp review and or the number of the restaurant in my neighborhood and making a phone call to have it delivered. Yelp could be a tremendous affiliate partner of ours. I dont see yelp actually owning this space or really wanting to. People might associate you with a mom and pop restaurant or maybe a small chain in the city. Absolutely. Whats the likelihood of an olive garden forging a
National Deal<\/a> with you,
Something Like<\/a> that . Sure. We have almost 30,000 independent restaurants across the country in 600 cities and they are all mom and pop shops. One and twoman operations. We processed over a billion dollar of food sales last year and going to mom and pop operations is tremendous for this industry. We also have many franchisees that are on the platform. They are paying their
Franchise Fees<\/a> as well as the grubhub marketing and
Technology Fees<\/a> in addition because they see the incremental value of being listed on our platform. Because we can drive so much business for them. Right. But you dont see it happening on a corporate level or doing all
Company Stores<\/a> in a oneshot deal. Were having lots of conversations. We have defined this industry. We are the innovator. Were growing incredibly rapidly. Were a publicly listed company. Theres lots of conversations in that direction. Well see where it goes. Thats a dancing pizza behind you. Absolutely. You are used to that. Thats how we roll. Thanks for coming in. Thank you very much. Matt maloney the ceo of grubhub and a nice firstday gain. We know that the economy generated 192,000 jobs last month. What does that mean for the market . What does it mean for
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David Winters<\/a> who is alleging shareholders ownership of the company is being diluted too much and hes calling for the chairman and ceo roles to be split. Coke came on cnbc to defend itself the real dilution over the last three years has been less than 1 a year and we expect it to be in that range going forward. This plan actually is very much in line with the plans that we have put forward to share owners in the past and that have share owner approval. Well, that didnt apiece mr. Winters who also came on cnbc to respond. Have a listen now, the
Buyback Program<\/a> has been hijacked by the company. It was originally put in place to benefit all shareholders. Theres an awful lot of money being transferred from the shareholders pockets to management of a company thats not growing very fast. Its just not right. We think its wrong. As you can see both sides really digging in their heels. A war of words really playing out in the spotlight. Both coming on cnbc to voice their opinions ahead of the april 23rd annual meetings where shareholders will be asked to vote on this 2014 equity plan which includes the executive compensation. The fact here is the numbers are up for debate. Mr. Winters is citing the numbers from the proxy. Cokes response is that there are a lot of factors that go into that and its just a hypothetical number. Its an interesting point. Obviously executive compensation always gets shareholders riled up. Cocacola, though, not exactly used this kind of public forum on being questioned by one of its investors who, by the way, says hes in the stock for the long haul. Its interesting that they did choose to show up and interview with you yesterday to defend themselves, you know. See what happens. At the meeting its unclear to me whats your sense in terms of where this things going at this point, sara, i havent been focused on it but you have been talking to a number of investors. It will be hard for them to go against cocacola and even
David Winters<\/a> himself says he talks to investors and hard to way them in his direction. And
Warren Buffett<\/a> not speaking. I asked both coke and mr. Winters if they spoke to him. The counsel says the dilution on this scheme is 1 a year, will be 1 a year and theres legal binding in saying that. Around what theyve had in previous years whereas the figure he was citing was 14 . So, that qualification from cokes management will be very important to a lot of people. And it really speaks to the fact that coke is putting its head of
Corporate Governance<\/a> out on this issue on television because it stands behind its numbers and the fact that this is really within the industry norm. Should be interesting because its an ongoing debate in a few weeks well get the vote. Lets bring in ben willis from
Princeton Securities Group<\/a> and joins us a this morning at post nine. Good morning. Good morning. We were talking before how yesterdays high felt wobbly. Feel better today . I think what were seeing is the correction in the maetplace oddly enough that weve all been looking for is actually happening as you see money coming out of the high beta stocks and finding its way in the value stocks and the like, the s p 1000 play, the etf money flows. I think theres actually a pretty good market on this. I have been longterm bullish by the end of the year looking for a correction of 5 to 10 . Never really got it. Maybe were actually getting it on a rolling correction rather than a traditional sweep down. He said as the nasdaq was the only of the majors in the red today, right . Right. That storys not done. Absolutely not. You will see a continuation of asset flows. The fact of the matter is money still needs to come out of the mattress of the money funds that are sitting on the sidelines. U. S. Equities is an asset class or underowned by the american investor. If they want to retire on time, theyre going to need to do that. Hang on. Not by historical average are they underowned at the moment. Thats a judgment you are making about the need to save more for your retirements. Yes, right. A lot of people are very concerned about the second half of the year here. You hear it time and time again. There will be an intersection of
Monetary Policy<\/a> tightening and a question mark over what growth we have and people talk about the possibility of a major correction at that point. And we heard that again in this half hour from both of the guests that were on discussing the markets. Are you concerned about it . My position from several months now has been the correction will come as a function, as a reaction to central bank action. Right. Most likely the fed. However, we see whats going on. We see the effect at the peoples bank of china is having in controlling their economy and the dampening of that economy which is now having a macro effect in the world. That will be i think the biggest thing. I want to make one important point that weve not made in this hour. Today many people will have woken up to the headline that the
Spanish Government<\/a> can borrow more cheaply than the u. S. Treasury can on fiveyear paper because the rally in the bond market in europe has been so strong and the
European Central<\/a> bank is now verbally intervening to say they will go in to potentially quantitative easing. What does it mean for people sitting here . Is it irrelevant . Identi think it is. People have to put it innen could text and it goes back to the central bank and the whole conversation of expectation and jawboning by draghi and the people in the
European Union<\/a> on the attempt to bail out a situation that has been stuck in the mud so to speak and whether or not it will continue. The fact of the matter the leadership of the
World Economy<\/a> will have to come from the
United States<\/a> central bank and china in my opinion. The tenyear treasury yield at 274, thats not a signal of imminent tightening any time soon. Abo where it has come from in the history of the ultimate easing and the taper of 1. 5 i think its well on its way to the 3 level. Again, this is the question of whether the money will eventually come out of the
Asset Classes<\/a> that are seeking that yield and safety and find its way back into the stock market and value. Last question. A lot of these high fliers are back to their 200 day. When does selling stop . When it gets to those numbers or you have no gains year over year, how much is enough . I think the professional investor in the highflying stocks, you saw the money come off the table and deleveraging itself and keeping an eye on the margin positions as quoted by the
New York Stock Exchange<\/a>, but i think overall it doesnt mean the 200 day is a ceiling. I think the markets can eventually roll higher. Were just seeing that roll of the market so to speak into other areas doesnt mean those stocks are dead. Ben, thanks a lot. Have a good weekend. Lets get over to dominick chu and get a market flash. Check out halizime therapeutics, it said it was temporarily halting a midstage trial of its pancreatic cancer drug for safety concerns. The stock is a market cap of a billion dollars its trading eight times its normal volumes and down 25 so far on the session, carl. Back over to you. All right, dom, thanks a lot. When we come back its the fitbit for the countrys electrical grid. Of the opower trading higher after its debut. How will it lower your energy bills and compete with googles nest . The ceo and founder will join us next. Next. Big. Then expanded . Or their new product tanked . Or not . What if they embrace new technology instead . Imagine a companys future with the future of trading. Company profile. A
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Energy Consumption<\/a> going public on the nyse and sharply higher as you can see. Daniel yates joins us, the ceo of opower. Good morning. Good morning. Well come to the pricing and the moves in a minute but people should understand that supporters would say theres a revolution under way in software in the energy industry. Can you explain what you do . Opower is a
Cloud Software<\/a> platform and we help our
Utility Partners<\/a> to transform the way theyre communicating with their consumers. And the exciting thing about our market, the
Utility Industry<\/a> is a 2. 2 trillion one of the largest on earth and it is undergoing a radical transformation. For all of our lifetimes utilities have been the protected regulated entities with no competition and now they are being disrupted by solar rooftop providers and they have to comply with new environmental mandates and they have to communicate with their customers and thats what we do. They are mandated to reduce power consumption overtime but they are your customers clearly. You go to the utility and say you want access to the customer base. You, then, send almost like a video game, reports to people with smiley faces as to whether their
Energy Consumption<\/a> is higher or lower than, say, their neighbors. A trojan horse for you to then sell them other things further down the line. Thats exactly right. So what we do is we help the utility take all of the data that they have and they have a tremendous amount of data. Today we take in hundreds of billions of rows of meter data. We bring in housing and demographic and weather and all this data to help them understand the consumers and we change every one of their interfaces, the website, their mobile application the emails, the automated calls, the mailed reports, the call center. We help them make all of those touch points data rich. We give people information like how your energy use compares to your neighbors. We give people targeted recommendations. It sounds a little bit like googles nest in terms of that smart technology. Are they a competitors of yours . Googles nest . We dont compete with them. Its a hardwarebased solution sold to consumers and were a
Software Platform<\/a> that we sell to utilities, so we dont see much competition. People have the vision of the utility a dine sore, not efficient, not friendly. When you first go to the guys do you feel like you have to teach them to walk before they can run . Absolutely not. It has been in the last ten years a huge transition in the
Utility Industry<\/a>. There are when we started our company there were almost zero chief customer officer. Now there are dozens and dozens. They are held back by their technology. But the people are there and the passion is there. What about regional concentration . Are you in the northeast . Are you in the southeast . Where are you mostly . So, were all over the states now. Were in 30 different states across the country. Were in eight countries across the world. What would you consider your key competitive advantage, then, over those that would seek to compete with you . I would highlight a couple key things. Fir first weve built a very substantial
Technology Plat<\/a> form thats just far ahead of everybody else, seven years into this. As the utility clients come to us they are excited about the broad array of capabilities we have. The second thing i would highlight, we have this huge data asset. We have more data under management than anybody. We have over 52
Million Consumers<\/a> worth of energy data and so were just learning faster than everybody. Were out of time, but i just want to get to the numbers if i can. You are still making a loss. Your net losses grew to 14 million. However, this pricing and this rally at the open i believe your personal wealth as a founder is 126 million. I mean, talk to me about the pricing and the process that youve been through. Yeah. So, its been a thrilling day for us. I think different from a lot of the other
Cloud Software<\/a> companies that you may see in the market, we have already proven the model. Weve proven our ability to deliver more cash back to the business than we consume and the fact that were investing but youre making a loss of 14 million. We will be making a loss this year. We were actually cash flow break even last year. So, weve chosen today to invest further in the company because of the big opportunity. One last question, 52 million different people you have. Yeah. How inefficient are we in this country, then, in terms of our energy use . I think thats the big opportunity, right . When alex and i, my cofounder and i, started the company, we said theres so many prius drivers out there with humvee houses and we need to help them get better information to understand how to change their usage. We can easily save 10 , 20 on our usage. A lot of folks estimate that over 40 of energy is wasted. Yeah. Well, if we keep having winters like the past one, youll get people on board with that. You know, for a long time people thought the brightest minds would go into
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Santelli Exchange<\/a>. Indeed. Id like to welcome our guest former chief economic adviser to president george w. Bush. Welcome, ed lazir. Nice to be with you. Thanks, rick. Thank you. Listen, the gentleman who has your job currently, jason furman, was on squawk on the street earlier today. Regarding the jobs report, heres what he had to say. And i want to you to listen to both of these. I think this is consistent with the steady, solid recovery weve had. And then when asked about whats the fate of legislation regarding extending jobless benefits he said, the longterm
Unemployment Rate<\/a> is still our biggest cyclical economic challenge. Its twice what it was on average before the
Great Recession<\/a> began. All right. Let me get this straight. Its like that old commercial, tastes great, less filling. How are jobs . Tastes great. How are benefits . Need more. It seems as though the sweet spot is not a sweet spot for the middle class. Its not a sweet spot for the economy. Its a sweet spot that we see ongoing still kind of crisis mode programs ongoing. Even though we still tap our hat that were growing jobs, and plus the word cyclical bugs me. Lets put in structural. Comment on all that, ed. Thats quite a list, rick. Let me start with the jobs report. I think this jobs report was stronger than the last morngts primarily for two reasons. One, i like to focus on hours worked and hours worked did go up. Average weekly hours went up considerably. Thats something to take into account. The second thing is the employment to population ratio which is a number i like to look at. Also went up. Both of those are indicators that things are better this month than you were thast month. That said, were still a long way from a strong recovery. Hours of work with backed up back up but theyre back up to where we were last summer. The employment to population ratio is up but its up to where we were in march of 2009. So we still have a long way to go. This has not been a strong recovery. We still are in trouble. Now, the question i think that you raised in terms of unemployment benefits, what you were driving at is what are the incentive effects of those kinds of programs. We know that when you have high unemployment even though they are adverse incentive effects were sometimes willing to tolerate them because people are hurting. When should we stop that . What we have to do right now is focus on the future. I keep saying that what the administration has done is theyve focused way too much on the short run, not enough on the long run. Growth rates are still in the low 2s. We need to move our growth rate considerably above that. I think by moving to a better incentive structure we can get there. What you described, eds, is shortterm focus, election cycle to election cycle, election cycle. I get that. As a matter of fact, lets take that a step farther. Mr. Campos, ways and
Means Committee<\/a> chairman is going to be leaving his office. Probably a bit burnt out working on tax policy nobody is going to use. Last piece legislation is to propose a 40hour workweek to replace the 30hour in the
Affordable Care<\/a> act. Can you explain how democrats are saying fix it, repeat it. Nobody allows fixes. The president said he would veto that. Does that make sense to you . I dont know if the specifics makes sense. One thing i would return to you though is the issue of incentives. We know when you have legislation that exempts people who work below a certain number of hours or exempt firms that have below a certain number of employees you have big effects on the number of employees the firm retains and on the number of hours worked. Almost out of time, ed. Make it more simple for me and viewers. Okay. If you are the king, would you have a 40hour week because it would make more job sense or keep it at 30 so more people are included towards the insurance programs. What would your call be . I dont like putting caps on anything. I think that creates adverse incentives. I like a more neutral kind of structure. I think thats the direction in which i would go. I think the
Affordable Care<\/a> act has way too many conditions associated with it that create all kinds of distortions in the labor market. I would say repeal it and go with something new. In fact, i like what we proposed in 2007. I wish we would go back to it. I got you. Theres a lot of things that 2007 i think the country wishes they could go back to. Have a terrific weekend. Next time in chicago ill bayou a big high cholesterol lunch. Thanks for taking the time. Simon hobbs, back to you. Thank you, rick. In the meantime, sarah wants to check on ipo. Looks likes 59s has opened for trading. Up 18 . That following a run, a string of successful ipos weve seen here at the
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Unemployment Rate<\/a> is 6. 7 . We are overtaxed by deals. And i think if i dont sit here and say it i lived through 2000 and it is just just dont want it to happen again. Theres the opening bell. Is 1912 satisfactory in the white houses view . I think this is consistent with the study solid recovery weve had. Were able to provide realtime updates for diners so you know when your food is done being prepared, when its out the door, and when its almost at your house. So its innovations like that define it and were aggressively continuing to
Grow Business<\/a>. It is 11 00 a. M. On this jobs friday on the east coast. 8 00 a. M. Out west. Heres what were watching for you this morning. Investors hungry for grubhub. Rallying on the nyse debut but should you be making an order on day one. . Googles acquisition in hot water after serious technical problems. Were going to tell you whats going on. The business of marijuana fuming in california and now the business of hemp may not be far behind. The industry thats riding the wave of legal pot out west. The u. S. Economy adding 192,000 jobs in march, did you nail the number . This months nail the number winner will join us later on this hour. Joining us this morning for the squawk feed kara swisher, coexecutive editor at re code along with jon steinberg, buzzfeed president and ceo and our own jon fortt here as well. Good morning. Hi. Lets start with the big ipo of the morning. Grubhub, thats intraday as the stock opened just north of 40. Now settling down to 37. 79. Interesting story. We talked to the ceo in the last hour and he talked about the acquisition of seamless and how it helped his company. Take a listen. Integration has been incredible. Cultures have meshed wonderfully. The individuals are pen nominal to work with. In terms of the restaurants, were actively integrating the restaurants themselves so that the restaurants available on either of our brands are identic identical. There were nice visuals of grubhub here at the nyse. People dressed as pizzas and sandwich wraps. The ceo, look at the opening bell as they were on the balcony. Also tweeted seamless tweeted weve run a lot of bells in our day but this was the biggest one. Jon, your thoughts on what that means for them and the ipo picture at large. Its rare you get a european preview the day before. Justeat went public. Priced at 15 times revenue. And in grubhub raised their offering price to 15 times revenue. Exactly in lock step. It opened at 3 billion. Now 3 billion stock. Its pricey. Expensive for what it is. 40 organic growth. But still, you know, lofty. Jon . Well, ill say first of all, king stock, candy crush makers, trading up 20 bucks a share. But there is an element of the candy crush issue, i think, with grubhub in the sense that a lot of the
Revenue Growth<\/a> that theyve seen between 2011 and 2013 might be attributable to the boom in smartphones and the growth they got off their app. Its not just their brilliant business sense. Its also that along with the seamless acquisition. Its hard to tell where growth comes from. Theyve got to compete with just if they want to go overseas and whatever he sells. Ye yelp is a competitor. Its sending orders and, by the way, opentable could get into this space, too. Benchmark as an investor as well. You have to believe this is going to be the uber for local everything. To kind of justify this level of price and acceptance. He did try to argue that yelp is not the competitor that jon suggests it is. Kara where is your head on this . Can they roll up mom and pops indefinitely or do you need a big deal with darden or mcdonalds . I think its a food delivery ipo. It seems small to me. I think these things i think its going to bump along, you know, its very open table but smaller and its a sort of a hand its a local battle to get everybody in. And there are so many players in this space. I dont know. I think its very difficult. Its a very difficult business. Good for them. Theyve been quiz tive and they say in s1 they will continue to be, probably using stock. Jon, how much of a liability is that . I think whats a challenge is that some of their most effective competition is around their size. I mean, their valuation i think is 3 billion now with where its trade right now. Opentable is around 2. Yelp is the biggest in the space with 6 billion valuation. Acquiring anything sizable is going to be tough. Maybe they can do some little stuff. E24, stuff overseas. But, you know, maybe its a bigger name that ends up rolling up. I think theres value in the local intelligence that they get going home to home. Knowing what peoples habits are. You will see. Opentable is a stock thats never had the growth that live up to what people want. When you look at it its trading at 9 1 2 times revenue. Were basically now at 21 times for grubhub. A double at this point. Next up this morning, mozilla ceo stepping down after his outrage to donation for samesex marriage campaign. Supporti supporti supporti supporti supporti supporti supporting ban on this. Kara, whats been the reaction out west on this . He did not last long. No, he didnt. You know, we broke that story of him leaving. I think it was just an issue of the
Mozilla Community<\/a> is, oh talked about tolerance and inclusiveness and he wanted to extend it to his viewpoint. The
Tech Community<\/a> is mer i would say very supportive of gay rights. Theres an outcry, the grope there, too much for him to be ceo and carry this with him throughout. It would stick with him. It became an untenable situation for the product which already faces challenges all over the place. I was going ask you whats the impact on the mozilla itself as his departure . Obviously theres going to be a technical impact and he, you know, a t lot of people didnt want him to be ceo. I think the difference is when you move even though they knew about the donation before, when you move from cto to ceo theres a per acceptable difference that youre the face of the company. Thats not the face they wanted to have. Jon, your thoughts on this one . Im uncomfortable with the way this went down. I really didnt like voted in california, voted against it. Im a christian so im curious what his reasoning was for doing what he did, make that 1,000 donation, was it just he didnt want gay rights, was it something about a traditional view of marriage . He didnt help himself but not thoroughly explaining his position. But the fact that there was nuance here, i just wonder how many different litmus test issues are there . I know plenty of people in california, friends of mine who have strong religious beliefs who are in favor of prop 8. Im not sure its healthy to have a litmus test without further exploration theyre excluded from being ceos of certain org certain organizations. This isnt a litmus test. If he had made an antiwoman group donation, a racist donation, you know what i mean, a group known for racism or very strong that way, it would have been two seconds he would have been out. Thats what im saying. Im not sure this was about not being for gay rights or his own personal view about what marriage is. He didnt explain it. He didnt help himself. He did not explain it. He also gave a series of interviews that were kind of crazy. Like in terms of he somehow brought in the indonesians and how we should accept it because indonesians were against gay marriage. It got strange. I think mozilla has a particular community and the community spoke to people in charge and felt like he was going to be this was going to focus on him the entire time. I think this is probably the
Biggest Issue<\/a> is the controversy. The direction of the country is going in. Thats for sure. At least california. Finally, nest lab is the maker of smart appliances that google bought for 3 billion. Calling a halt to all sells of smoke alarms. Its discovered a possible defect to cause users to turn off smoke alarms unintentionally. The alarm has a wave feature that lets you turn it off with the wave of a hand. Nest is saying this feature could be activated by accident. Live by technology. I love the quote. A unique combination a unique combination of circumstances could lead to an inadvertent deactivation. So it sounds like youve got to be waving and twirling and chasing a bird out of your house for this to happen. Or have kids. But i think its very up front that he came out. These hightech
Companies Get<\/a> so much more heat for defects. When you look at what tesla went through when it was such a rare set of circumstances to cause battery problems, i think they came out, admitted it. They are sending out a software fix. You know, so i think theyre doing everything right here. I think here the software saved the day. The fact theyre able to disable the wave feature through the internet, buy time to figure out what to do here p. Seems like worst case scenario, kill that feature all together. All is okay. Its not like its a bug, they dont have to do a recall. Smart engineering. Does it have any impact on the perception of googles purchase . Absolutely. Thank god it happened after they sold the company. It would have been a way to negotiate down the price or put when youre dealing in safety type devices the level of scrutiny is so much higher than just entertainment. I know tony fidel was just named tech quarter of the quarter by usa today. What is his reputation out there . Fantastic. A creator of the ipod. Creative and interesting. A lot of people feel like hes one of the visionaries around. It is just one of these things. You have the internet of things and things break and things. They fixed it and they will move along. I dont think it would have had any impact on the google purchase whatsoever. The base case of your regular smoke alarm is its broken and not working. Its always broken. Yeah. It would have been worst if customers had discovered this issue. The fact that nest discovered it himself. 100 . Its a blip. The show on hbo
Silicon Valley<\/a> premiers this weekend. The premier has a few celebrity cameos. Googles ceo gary schmidt and re codes own kara swisher. We have a picture you shared with us of you onset. Yes. This is getting, i would say, rave reviews. Its good. Its a good smhow. I have a face for radio but it was fun to do that. Love mike judge and i think hes done a great job doing a mocking a very depth mocking of
Silicon Valley<\/a> that deserves it for a long time now. Its funny. Its just funny. Thats whats important. Is he moving in on your turf here though . Im fine with it. Are you okay with that . Imperfectly fine. Everybody deserves a little poking, jon. How did you and eric know that it was going to be good . If you lended yourself to a bad show, how did you know in advance its going to be good . Its mike judge. Fair enough. Its mike judge. I tell you one thing, the parallels between hollywood now and
Silicon Valley<\/a>, i love this story line, apparently someone goes to the doctor, kara, and the doctor tries to pitch him his app concept. Thats whats essentially going on in california. Thats what happens to me. It happens to me all the time. Finally, kara, you had a
Party Last Night<\/a> i think for re code. Yes, we did. A launch party. Yet, you were totally coherent this morning. I am still drunk. No, im kidding. I dont drink at all. No, it was fun. It was great. It was a great party. We were trying to say thank you to people here in
Silicon Valley<\/a> and just have we like to have a good time at re code. Thats for sure. You do set the tone on that one, kara. Yeah. Thanks so much for being with us. Take another look here at grubhub today as we said earlier, rollying after going public this morning. So you know what grubhub is doing but how have this rest of the ipos faired so far . Winner rs an losers. Jon is going to stick around for the rest of the hour. Kara, see you next week. Rick santelli with the dow now negative, what are you watching today . Im watching the curve. Were going to continue to dig down on the yield curve. We thought it would steepen no matter what the number came out to be. And it did. So were going to talk about fed implications on the curve as well. So the feddi isdish swerves on yield curve. Yield curve. Take a closer look at your fidelity green line and youll see just how much it has to offer, especially if youre thinking of moving an old 401 k to a fidelity ira. It gives you a wide range of investment options. And the free help you need to make sure your investments fit your goals and what youre really investing for. Tap into the full power of your fidelity green line. Call today and well make it easy to move that old 401 k to a fidelity rollover ira. Every mattress at mattress discounters is so comfy how could they get any better . Well, theres one way. Brilliant mattress discounters red tag sale through sunday, get 300 off serta perfect sleeper, and sealy posturepedic. Plus, free delivery. Dont wait mattress discounters red tag sale ends sunday. Now thats a beautiful sight. Mattress discounters welcome back to squawk on the street. Im scott wapner. More now between dan loeb and sothebys as dan loeb is striking back, going on the offensive. One again, about a month now before the annual meeting urging sothebys voters to vote for his slate of the directors, harry wilson and a gentleman by the name of olivia ressa. In a letter sent today he says, our nominees will reinvig rate the board of directors and bring a fresh perspective and criticizing sothebys board saying they have no skin in the game. Owning less than 1 of the company. Also says sothebys now is the board is overly focussed on shortterm metrics in mr. Loebs words. He wants them to be more aggressive in the way they monetize their intellectual property. Weve had a lot of growth. Loeb saying that growth has come from market tail winds. Not anything specifically that sothebys itself has done here. He also goes on to say that they lack innovation and creativity at a senior level. And whats really interesting here is you remember yesterday, jim was on squawk box saying that the art market was in a bubble. Certainly parts of it he thought were in a bubble, that he was short sothebys shares as a result of that. Well, mr. Loeb telling me on the phone a short time ago that while i like and respect jim, i disagree with him on that issue. He says chanos doesnt understand the scarcity factor in
Museum Quality<\/a> art. They are no longer being created. He agrees there are incredibly high prices being paid for artworks by young artists. He does like the art market to hamptons beachfront real estate saying that jim owns a home on the beach. He should understand a scarcity issue as it relates to beachfront property much like it does to the art market. So thats where we are about a month out now from the sothebys annual meeting. Loeb urging shareholders to vote for his slate. Sothebys urging shareholders to vote for it. It has already gone to court. Loeb has sued in
Delaware Court<\/a> saying the poison pill should not have been implemented. Getting more contentious. Loeb firing the latest though. Dow is now down 13. Lets get to
Rick Santelli<\/a> and the
Santelli Exchange<\/a>. Rick . Thanks, carl. Of course we have the jobs report today. 192,000 wasnt bad. Sorry i was 3,000 off at 189. What we notice though was the curve steepened right after that data was out if you recall the
Santelli Exchange<\/a> we had earlier in the week, pretty much we decided that was about the only possible outcome was a curve steepening. Why . Ill give you 3. 7 million reasons why. We have basically long 46 term unemploy unemployed. People have been unemployed for more than 27 weeks. Its just shy of 4 million. Its very depressing. Now, yes, we are creating jobs but thats why the yield curve is doing what it does. Lets start at the beginning once again. You have your yield curve. Long maturities, short maturities. What happens in may of last year. In may of last year what we did was we readjusted the curve. We saw the long end move about 100 basis points. So the curve steepened a bit. Fine, great for banks. Youve heard it all. Then lo and behold the march meeting. What happened . You took this curve and notion of zero
Interest Rate<\/a> policy coming to an end. Pushed the short end rates so the curve flattened a bit. Well, thats why it had to steepen. Why . We talk about the messiness of the fed exit. Youre kind of seeing the early stages of this. Ill tell you why. Because the long end, even though it readjusted for the end of tapering in may, now looks up and sees that even though were making progress. Were certainly better than than we were. 5 1 2, 6 years into the post crisis we still have many post crisis programs. Longterm unemployed and the long end just isnt buying the general level of
Economic Activity<\/a> being enough. Might be the best in the world on a relative basis. But the short end is going to continue to be scratching its head because many traders on this floor operate under the premise that really there isnt a lot of forward guidance. The fed has to get out of qe. Every direction theyre getting criticism. It isnt addressing the structural issues of unemployment. In terms of zero
Interest Rate<\/a> policy, theyre going to have to raise rates. Just consider this. If we get an unexpected black swan, maybe even a little gray swan, whats the fed going to do for an encore . What are they going to do to address any issues that happen out of left field . We need to normalize policy and thats why we have this feddish swerving curve almost every time you get important data. Carl, back to you. Youre the man who keeps his eye on it for us. Thank you,
Rick Santelli<\/a>. One more look here this morning at grubhub, popping this morning over 40 on the nyse. Four ipos are up double digits which puts them all in the top 30 of ipo debuts this year. Well talk more about grubhub in a little bit and the winners and losers in this years red hot ipo marked in a moment. In a mo. Whats in your ear . Oooo a quarter check for more well, i guess i can double check. My watch [ male announcer ] it pays to double check, with state farm. My watch sometimes they just drop in. Always obvious. Cme group can help you navigate risks and capture opportunities. We enable you to reach
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Companies Already<\/a> gone public so far this year. Bob pisani has that for us. Hey, bob. Carl, the important thing is ipos are doing great this year but not as good as they were doing a month ago. Let me split it into two big groups. Biotech pharma and software and
Service Cloud<\/a> computing. They have gone public in the last six or seven weeks here. The project, for example. Up 32 . Thats online advertising. Q2, a cloudbased banking for regional banks. 2u, educational sales doing well. Up . Aerohive helping with mobile applications. Thats up about 9 right now. Biotech and pharma, there you go. Biotech and pharma, theyre doing well. Applied genetics up 3 . The rest of the group here look at some of the other biotech names there. Theyre down all across the board there. So very, very much of a mixed market thats going on today in biotech and pharma. How about a group, im going to call it other. They dont fit into a clear group. Energous is up huge. Coupons. Com, theyre up. Cbs outdoor, billboards for cbs, theyre up. Everyday health, they do an online website, theyre good. King digital is down 11. Very mixed group here overall. You want to look at the health of the market, do it simply. Ipo, thats the etf symbol for the ipo e trktf. Thats been run by renaissance since october. Had a nice runup by 20 . It had a lot of biotech names in it and software and
Service Names<\/a> in it that have affected dramatically in march. Compare it to how it does against the s p 500. This is the ipo thats the etf youre looking at against the s p 500. Thats the green line. You see how the ipo business out performed dramatically in february and march but in march kind of crashed down and, believe it or not right now, the s p 500 is outperforming the overall ipo market. Although today, carl, its been just terrific today. Put up our performers today here. Theres grubhub up 40 right now. Put up ims health. Thats a big mover on the upside as well. In fact, all four ipos today that have come out are very much big on the upside. They came out very much on the upside and five9 on the nasdaq, theyre all trading up in the double digit area. So, guys, mixed market right now but, today, terrific day for ipos. Back to you. All right, thanks isa lot, b pisani. Europe going to close in a few moments here. European stocks extended their gains. This of course was the week yesterday when you had the very aggressive verbal intervention from mario draghi at the ecb basically saying we stand now unanimous, that includes the germans, ready to embark on qe if need be. Quaund ta quantitative easing and the strong euro, he says was deflati deflationary. So this rally on the bond markets continues in europe. Thats driving the yields down. If we can look at those. Further and further into negative territory. Greece has had a phenomenal week as a result. A german newspaper is reporting that theyve modeled at the ecb buying 1 trillion euros of assets and that added. 2 to. 8 of inflation as a result. We were lucky enough today, my colleagues in europe were lucky enough to catch up with the
Vice President<\/a> of the
European Central<\/a> bank at a function in italy and we asked him specifically whether yesterday they discussed qe. This is what he said. We have had some discussions and we will have more about the details. Yesterday was about the general view. And it was very important that there was unanimity. The details are important in the end and we will see how it goes. And we will see, also, if indeed we have to, you know, yield all those instruments. One of the bizarre things, of course, that results from this is that people woke up today to find that the
Spanish Government<\/a> could borrow more cheaply at the fiveyear level than you could here in the
United States<\/a>. Because you have a central bank in europe thats embarking on qe and a central bank here that is pulling away. And that is a huge change in the tetonic plates that well have to work our way through in 2014. Let me slow you we reversed slightly on the trade. I know that. Let me show you two stocks that have reacted today on bid from the
United States<\/a>. Thank you very much. A generic drug maker in sweden rejected an offer from mylan here. Up 3. 3 on speculation that brown and forman which makes, as you know, carl, jack daniels, made a bid for remy. Not my poison. It was mine for a long time. Had to stop it. Too aggressive. You went straight to xema, right . Nice weekend. Good weekend to you. Simon hobbs. He brings up that spanish five year and whether its yields in europe, jon, or an ipo here that u hunt for yield hasnt gone anywhere. I keep having people rephrase that praise for me and its so true. When i saw the jobs number this morning, okay, the regular economy is not that good. Right . Ultimately the ipos are going to continue to perform well because investors are basically bidding up whatever future price they can get to because theres no growth anywhere else. At the expensive profitability . I mean, they always say were cash flow positive, jon . Im nervous, carl. Im nervous because of what sales force is doing today, because of what net suite is doing today. A lot of
Growth Stocks<\/a> are testing lows for the year right now. Were seeing these ipos come to market. Some of them pretty good quality. Weve had some today. Some of them t not as good. Theyre popping initially but well have to see where they go. Investors increasingly looking for growth in stocks like intel and microsoft trading, you know, near year or multiyear highs. They havent proven that theyve got the secret sauce for moeshl and cloud quite yet. This earning season, i think, could be critical. The sort of data, the sort of information that we get from them on how theyve done in the previous quarter but also in the second half outlook because that optimism over the second half is the quarters for the old line tech . Old line tech. A lot of money is moving in value tech, oracle, microsoft, intel, even ibm. You know, if they start sounding cautious on the second half well see what happens. Even when you look at the prior generation of the high tech, now were saying prior generation, facebook and twitter, oh, well, for the year. But look at a 12month chart. Look at an 18month chart. The stocks are all double and way up. Maybe theyre getting rationalized a little bit while the ipos are all getting bid up right now. All i know is near bear market on amazon year to date. Down 19 1 2. Amazon is another one. When we come back, the debate over rigged markets made headlines all week long and now it may be trans lating into action by the fed. Well tell you what eric holder has to say about hft in just a minute. Announcer where can an investor be a name and not a number . Scottrade. Ron im never alone with scottrade. I can always call or stop by my local office. Theyre nearby and ready to help. So when i have questions, i can talk to someone who knows exactly how i trade. Because i dont trade like everybody. I trade like me. Thats why im with scottrade. Announcer ranked highest in
Investor Satisfaction<\/a> with selfdirected services by j. D. Power and associates. But with so much health care noise, i didnt always watch out for myself. With unitedhealthcare, i get personalized information and rewards for addressing my health risks. But shes still gonna give me a heart attack. Thats health in numbers. Unitedhealthcare. First day of my life by bright eyes youre not just looking for a house. Youre looking for a place for your life to happen. A lot of discussion about ipos and tech today but we do want to brick it back to the markets. The dow has lost gains during the course of the morning. Currently in the red. Enjoying the comp down now more than 1 . Very rough day for the nas, especially the nas 100. And then the jobs numbers. Diane, good to have you back. Good morning. Good morning, carl. I cant imagine you were that thrilled with the number today. It was an okay number. We got it. We got the numbers, revisions were better. We need a lot more. We still had were coming back on participation after the
Participation Rate<\/a> had deteriorated in the fourth quarter. I hope thats the beginning of a trend. I dont mind a higher
Unemployment Rate<\/a> if its because people are throwing in their hat and got more hope out there. The devil is in the details and they were not terrific particularly when you look at we did get a pickup in hours worked but earnings ticked down a bit. Right. Temps, too. There were some notion, diane that we know the spring, the seasonal affects on pent up demand for labor and this wasnt the pay back some were hoping for. Is that a ledge made concern . I think that is legitimate concern. Also i think we did see some of the hibernation versus migration. The pick up in leisure and hospitality was a little bit of a pickup. It did accelerate there. You cant get a hotel room in florida right now because people left the east coast and the midwest were things so horribly weather wise. We went down to sunny vacations. Thats great for sunny vacations but still low wage jobs. Manufacturing was weak in todays data. Construction is okay but not terrific. We want to see more construction activity. We need to see a change in composition of jobs growth. We crossed that previous peak on private employment but weve got a bigger labor force than dedid back then. On the other side of it, composition of job gains on this recovery had been low wage. Theyre not the same jobs we lost which was higher wage manufacturing,
Business Services<\/a> and construction jobs. We still got to get the quality really matters. Diane, what do you make of these hightech ipos and the fact that all this growth is in companies that kind of employs so many fewer workers . Do you think theres a structural change going on in the economy . You know, some of those companies become very big companies. Think about
Companies Like<\/a> google or facebook. Now theyre employing a lot more workers. What we do know is one of the big fallacies is that fall business is the backbone of the u. S. Economy on jobs growth. New biggs formation. The ipos are one piece of that. What i worry about more is that were not getting a lot of the
Venture Capital<\/a> and new business formation we should be getting particularly because we dont have an
Immigration Reform<\/a> on highskilled workers. Disproportionately immigrants who are highly educated, educated here in the
United States<\/a>. Also the people who start those new companies that become much
Bigger Companies<\/a> and are the backbone of employment growth. Diane, the tenyear now below 273. I guess so much for thinking about rates going up in six months. Its interesting how the market did over react to the tapering talk. I think the fed made it clear. Janet yellen this week made it clear. She said point blank in some ways this labor
Market Recovery<\/a> is as bad as recession. And i think that shes right about that. And i think she made it clear that even when the fed does start raising rates its going to be a slow process. Its not going to be up to any levels of the rates we saw in the past. Were in a low rate environment for a long time. It would be great if it was a higher rate environment to reflect a stronger economy. If you want to think about goldilocks this is still lumpy, cold porage, as far as im concerned. The
Justice Department<\/a> now looking into
High Frequency<\/a> trading and if it falls under
Insider Trading<\/a> laws. Eric holder confirmed this at a
House Panel Hearing<\/a> earlier today. Eamon javers has the details on that. Carl, a whole lot going on in hft land this morning. Let me bring you up to speed. Let me start here with trade station. Now, thats a retail brokerage. Theyre doing to announce cnbc learned this afternoon that they are going to connect to iex, the reform minded exchange at the hart of flash point. Thats another venue for customers to connect to that exxang. On eric holder, he was appearing on capitol hill this morning talking about the department of justices budget but he also said that the department of justice is interested in
High Frequency<\/a> trading. Take a listen. This practice which consists of
Financial Brokers<\/a> and trading firms using advanced computer algorithms and ultrahigh
Speed Data Networks<\/a> to execute trades has rightly received scrutiny from regulators. I can confirm that we at the
United States<\/a> department of justice are investigating this practice to determine whether it sil la violates
Insider Trading<\/a> laws. Thats going to be an interesting one because the question we know you can trade faster than the speed of human thought in terms of milliseconds. The question is can you insider trade faster than the speed of human thought at millisecond level. Were going to find out the answer out over the coming months. Another one to bring you here, the dust still settling now from that debate on our air earlier in the week between iex and bats, the exchange. Take a listen to this debate here over exactly how bats prices trades on its exchanges. Listen to this. My question to bill if hes launching these accusations, what im launching accusations. What market data do you use to price trades on direct. We use the direct feeds and in combination. Not what you used to route. What do you use to price trades in your matching engine . We use a direct feeds. No. Yes, we do. You use the same data we do. No. You used that is not true. Now, bill obrien saying there that that is not true, but bats now according to the wall street journal coming back and saying, well, its partially true in any case. Bats saying that the
Exchange Operator<\/a> saying that two of its exchanges, edgea and edgex do use the slower feed known as securities information processor to price the trades. Thats an important nuance because that f. Theyre using slower processes to price trades theres a question as to whether hfts the jump in and pick off the trades. A lot going on here. Difficult to get your arms around but very important wrinkle as you bring our attention to. And bats did have to do some cleanup this week after that appearance. Absolutely. He got something very wrong. When we come bark, we told you this week how colorado approved 21 applications from residents wanting to grow hemp. Big policy change after the state legalized marijuana. So what can you actually do with a hemp license . One of the people who got one will talk about that when squawk on the street returns. In a world thats changing faster than ever, we believe outshining the competition tomorrow requires challenging your
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High Frequency<\/a> debate doesnt affect you, listen up. It could be to have a big impact on your money and is it 2,000 all over again for the nasdaq . Some say its starting to look like it is the flood of ipo toss blame. All straight ahead, carl, at the top of the hour. The carnage continuing at the nas. Well be all over it. Thanks a lot, scott. Earlier in the week we brought you a report on colorado approving 21 applicants to grow hemp and what that might mean for the states economy. We track down a winner of that
Golden Ticket<\/a> to find out what it might mean for business. Joining us this morning, daryl and mike sullivan, coowners of hemp farm, colorado. They join us this morning from denver. Good morning. Good morning. How long have you been waiting for this like this, daryl . For years and years. Its finally happened. What do you think made it happen and how long can this last . I mean, 21 licenses is not a lot. What gets it past the pilot stage . I guess, i mean, were going to see how well this goes off and hopefully here next year we can get more people involved in it. Right now we have a limited seed stock, so trying to get people involved in license to grow it is kind of the limited numbers. Mike, have you guys farmed before . If so, what crops and how much scale can you bring about in the early stages here . We have not really farmed outdoors before. Were just familiar with the marijuana and hemp strains and were just going from there and trying to grow outside and become farmers, outdoor farmers. Guys, let me ask you. How much of a changing demographic do you see in hemp and marijuana interests . I was in aspen over christmas. I was surprised how people in their 50s and 60s were frequenting the store and buying marijuana. Do you see it getten broader than you thought it might be . Yeah. And with hemp, sense it isnt a drug, a lot more people do realize that the use and benefits of it and not just using it as a drug because it isnt. You do get a larger demographic that is more accepting of that. Where do you think your crops are going to end up . Who is the end user for this hemp, mike, and do you guys have any sense as to how the pricing is going to be worked . Will exchanges start to operate in hedging . How the that all going to happen . We see a lot of textile hemp fibers. Makesing a lot of plastics into hemp nowadays. The food side of it, its very nutritious seed. The leaf has a lot of cbd in it. Its popular and is very helpful thing for the human body really. And we really dont know the prices yet. I think theyre going to find themselves as this first season of hemp growing is concluded. And we see how much of the actual plant we have, how much seed we have, how much, you know, the overall hemp that we have. Thats going to set its. How about banking . I know that banking is one of the big issues. Are you guys able to maintain your business in a
Traditional Bank<\/a> account . Are you able to accept payments . How much of that has been worked out . We havent really gotten into that too much. But we havent ran into any snags or problems with any of it. So youre using
Traditional Bank<\/a>ing right now . You use a regular bank like a normal business . Yes. Yes. All right. Mike, you guys must have done some calculations as to how much you can clear in the first season in terms of dollars income. How much money can you make at this . Oh, well, if the full seven acres and the full plan goes to fruition, i mean, the sky is really the limit. It could be a
Million Dollar<\/a> crop this year or it could be a 50,000 crop. We really dont know. Its really up in the air. Obviously were hoping its on the higher end. Yes. The higher end, man. The higher end. No pun intended. You guys are pioneers to a large degree. A lot of folks on twitter getting a kick out of watching this economy just spring out of nothing. Thanks a lot, guys. Thank you. Thank you. A hemp farmers out in colorado for us today. We should take a quick look at the nasdaq now down 74 points. Thats almost 2 . A lot of that damage has happened in the past 15 minutes or so. When we come back, talk about a couple of startups you saw first on this show making waves in the tech world. Week talking about who were talking about in just a moment. Aflac. Aflac, aflac, aflac [ both sigh ] ugh you told me he was good, dude. Yeah he stinks at golf. But he was great at getting my claim paid fast. How fast . Mine got paid in 4 days. Wow. Thats awesome. Is that legal . Big fat no. [ male announcer ] find out how fast aflac can pay you at aflac. Com. Mayo . Corn dogs . You are so outta here aah [ female announcer ] the complete balanced nutrition of greattasting ensure. 24 vitamins and minerals, antioxidants, and 9 grams of protein. [ bottle ] ensure\u00ae. Nutrition in charge\u2122. Work with equity experts. Who work with regional experts. Thats when expertise happens. Mfs. Because there is no expertise without collaboration. Serta perfect sleeper, through sunday, get 300 off and sealy posturepedic. Plus, free delivery save more green during mattress discounters red tag sale, through sunday. Mattress discounters welcome back to squawk on the street. Check out amgen. The stock has fallen after the melanoma skin cancer drug failed to improve in patients. It did meet the studys main goal of shrinking tumors as it previously reported but did not meet the secondary goal of improving survival rates in the patients. That stock is down to session lows. Carl, down about almost 2 in todays trade. Back over to you. Thanks. We do want to update you on a couple of squawk breakthroughs. Startup artsy on nounszing it raised over 18 milli 18 million funding. It pegs itself as the pandora of the art world. We talked to
Carter Cleveland<\/a> last year and he explained exactly what the company is about. Similar to pandora in the sense that we can make recommendations for you. The more you use the site the more you learn about what your artistic interests are and we can recommend other works you might be interested in learning about or collecting. Meantime, another one of our breakthroughs making the cover of forbes along the techheavy hitters. The ceo of house in the righthand corner of this picture with elon musk, chambers and hoffman, leoni with a headline innovation factory. In a lot of cases marketplaces which kind of fits to artsy as well. Its so compelling because theyre not holding any kind of inventory. Theyre an interchange point. Grubhub today is pretty much a marketplace as well. Capital light businesses that connect massive amounts of buyers and sellers are so appealing from an investment standpoint. Unbelievable. Meantime, the economy added 192 jobs in the month of moorch. Question, is did you nail the number . The jobs report is out. March nonfarm payrolls increased by 192,000 jobs. Were you able to nail the number . If so, you will win this cnbc wireless speaker signed by the entire squawk on the street gang. Find out if youre the lucky winner next on squawk on the street. Opportunities arent always obvious. Sometimes they just drop in. Cme group can help you navigate risks and capture opportunities. We enable you to reach
Global Markets<\/a> and drive forward with broader possibilities. Cme group how the world advances. Beautiful day in baltimore where most people probably know that geico could save them money on car insurance, right . You see the thing is geico, well, could help them save on boat insurance too. Hey okay. Im ready to come in now. Hello . Im trying my best. Seriously, im. Im serious. Request to come ashore. Geico. Saving people money on more than just car insurance. You stand behind what you say. Theres a saying around here, around here you dont make excuses. You make commitments. And when you cant live up to them, you own up, and make it right. Some people think the kind of accountability that thrives on so many streets in this country has gone missing in the places where its needed most. But i know youll still find it when you know where to look. Welcome back. We do have a winner in our nail the number contest. Nailed the number on the head with a guess of 192,000 jobs for march. Tyler joins us, the twitter handle nysetalk is our winner. He joins us this morning. Tyler, good morning. Good morning, everyone. Youve tried to win a couple of times before but this one worked. What led you to 192 . Well, to be honest, it was a little lucky. Ive been reading estimates around 200,000, and i like to check twitter pretty often and twitter was saying anywhere from 180 to 225. I thought it would be a little lower than last months 17 97 so i just ended up guessing 192. Obviously impossible to guess these numbers. Its a crap shoot every month. Right. The consensus, tyler, was so concentrated around 200, i think most of the major banks were close to 200. People tend to want to go for the gold, right . They want to take the severe under or the severe over. What gave you the confidence it would essentially be in line . I thought that weather hadnt changed too much from february to march. I remained a little optimistic but i didnt think it would change too much. You actually have a job in accounting. Youre an analyst, i believe. We wont get too specific about what you do. Your thesis of how job growth is going to shape up this year . I think we will continue to see pretty consistent growth, maybe more towards the end of the year. Im thinking we might have a little bit of a correction, but well see how that plays with the job growth. How about obviously the huge gap between what the economy does and what stocks are doing. Do you think how youre feeling about where we are in terms of the s p at 1881 . I feel that stocks are starting to get a little frothy in my opinion. I think thats the term thats being thrown around. I think well continue to see growth until sometime the end of this year, beginning of next year. What are you going to do with this wireless speaker . Ill probably put it in my room and not let anyone touch it. Tyler, congratulations again. Take a picture and tweet it out. Very nice. Again, winning the number, the nail the number contest right on the head at 192. Not bad. Not bad for a number that we know can be a little capricious. Absolutely. You got the feature with all the celebs names on it. Good prize. Comps down 70 points. Some discussion on twitter about whether or not were actually filling the gap here. Looking at the lows of the session. This ongoing story, jon, of the high fliers being sold. Two exists. Yeah. And apparently not taking a break today. You know, while weve been on true car filed for ipo, a car comparison marketplace being underwritten by goldman sachs. This morning coastline announced hes launching a simple
Home Marketplace<\/a> to sell your home. It feels like in the bubble in 2000 when everybody was launching all of these different marketplaces. It seems like theyre being flooding right now. The parade has to end, in his view. It cant go on and on at the expense of the broader market. Well see what the afternoon brings. For that, scott wapner on the half. Its the worth day for the nas since february 3rd. Youre documenting it pretty well, right . Yeah, this is the nas. This will the worst day at these levels since february 3rd. The warning signs are starting to develop in many parts of that market. Have a great weekend. Thanks so much. Welcome to the halftime show. The stocks that have led this rally permanently pumped or can they regain their run . High frequency fight. If you trade stocks online, listen up. Why the debate over speed is about to impact your money. Goldilocks is back after todays employment report and fed chair","publisher":{"@type":"Organization","name":"archive.org","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","width":"800","height":"600","url":"\/\/ia804503.us.archive.org\/26\/items\/CNBC_20140404_130000_Squawk_on_the_Street\/CNBC_20140404_130000_Squawk_on_the_Street.thumbs\/CNBC_20140404_130000_Squawk_on_the_Street_000001.jpg"}},"autauthor":{"@type":"Organization"},"author":{"sameAs":"archive.org","name":"archive.org"}}],"coverageEndTime":"20240620T12:35:10+00:00"}