incredibly dedicated, rigorous, and yeah, yeah, as was required, he behaved and looked like an athlete doing the show on broadway. it was a long run and continued to do it. he came back for a second run on broadway and then a third run over in l.a. and he was in good shape. it was -- you're right, it's strenuous, eight shows a week particularly strenuous show. no, this is -- i would say he was clearly a big guy but when he was going it, he was a healthy guy. >> if you're just joining us, sad news, james gandolfini died of reports of a heart attack, some say a stroke. he was on vacation in rome. we're trying to get the exact