a little bit. then all of a sudden there is a th huge swell, cry, protesters chanting. making sure people understand, how unhappy they are with the failure to indict the police officer. in the chokehold of eric garner, don? >> all right. deborah fererick. deb out in the protests right now. now i want to turn to what we know about the officer in the this case. joining me now, a civil rights attorney. won a lawsuit against new york police. and specifically against officer pantaleo. you want, you want a suit against pantaleo, your reaction today? >> i wasn't surprised at the failure of the grand jury to indict. it has to do with what we all thought. the district attorney's office in staten island works day in and day out with the police department. th they're too close.