misdirected and, you know, i think somebody like mr. trump is taking advantage of that. i mean, that's what he's exploiting during the course of his campaign. >> joining me now is sam clovis, the co-chairman to the trump national campaign and van jones, former senior official in the obama white house. so sam, what do you make of those comments there from president obama that donald trump is exploiting the fears of working class men who have been suffering? >> well, i think it's a strong word, exploiting is a strong word. i think that one of the things that we're really focused on is that we're really, we just had a technical glitch. i'm right back with you. i think to answer the question here, i think i'm more concerned about the characterization of the voter attracted tho this