whistle-blower we know now from the intelligence community. now, i don't know why you need another one, now that you have volker. to your earlier point you were making with your guest, you got the text, you got volker. there's nothing anonymous about it. this is what happens when you deny the obvious, it keeps coming at you. >> that's right. the evidence is there but who knows what this other person has to say. chris, we're digging on that also. see you in a few minutes. just ahead, whistle-blowers who have changed the course of history. stick around. "fine. no one leaves the table until you're finished." "fine! we'll sleep here." "it's the easiest, because it's the cheesiest" kraft. for the win win.