bounce back, that it was very hard to destroy them completely. eventually the uae, which was saudi's allies, pulled out because essentially they thought it was an unwinnable war. so that's why i say this is a delicate balance. wes is right, you want to achieve some kind of escalation dominance or re-establish deterrence, but you do want to get sucked into this because all the houthivise to do is survive. it's the classic problem of this kind of warfare. they win by not losing. we lose by not winning. and that's a dynamic -- you know, that's a tough tradeoff. so establish escalation norms, show them they can't do this kind of reckless attacks on ships. it makes a very interesting point is that some way to convey a signal to the iranians. i'm not sure that i would be in favor of military strikes at