>> matt: you have to have a license for yourself and then you have to have a permit for the cart itself. that's the problem. >> anthony: in any spot? >> matt: generally speaking, yes, although there's lots of restrictions. >> anthony: manhattan is very much the "not in my backyard neighborhood" in a lot of ways. i mean, for this reason manhattan in my view is less interesting than queens. this is a wonderland. >> matt: yeah. >> anthony: i mean, look at what we've got here. >> shawn: you know they're trying to change it though, and the more it does change, the more the vendors are threatened, you know? >> matt: there's all this talk about cleaning up roosevelt avenue, you know, what that means. >> anthony: if you get higher rents, nicer buildings, they're not going to want a street cart out in front. >> matt: that's sometimes the problem that vendors face. even if the spot is completely legal. and we see it all the time where there's building managers that come out and say, "hey, you've got to move. you can't be here." they even call the police. >> anthony: so what happens if that happens -- when that occurs? >> shawn: when it was me, the young kid out of college, i was ready for that. but if you're an immigrant that