position at the community center area that's kind of been a base for a lot of the operations, especially for the medics. and they're planning to wrap up operations here in the next few hours. so i asked about casualties. no one had an answer for that. i asked about the gunmen, bodies, casualties, location. no answer to that. really, we're going to have to wait on the kenyan officials and military sources for government sources to come forward and give us a picture of what exactly the status is right now. the last official word was that hefrg is in control and most of the hostages have been released. michael? >> okay. so most of the hostages being released but not all of them. it remains a tenuous situation for those who were, of course, in the shopping mall and even those of you outside of the mall. zain earlier, what appeared to be close calls because of what sounded like gunfire very near