the debt ceiling. >> susan kocollins -- >> wait a second. starting in 1953, under dwight eisenhower, we have consistently used the debt ceiling pt we have attached conditions to the debt ceiling. when i was in congress we did it routinely. this is one of those things that the white house has invented, that you guys repeat mindlessly. >> i'm not repeating mindlessly. name to me ever a single democratic congress person who has ever said if you do not give us x we will -- >> you changed the argument. you said there's never been a. >> over the debt ceiling. >> all right. >> barack obama and senator reid both vote against raising the debt ceiling. >> that's different. okay. we've got to go to break. we've got to go to break.