slaughtering civilians and the al qaeda safe havens and that's an issue for us morally and also strategically. al qaeda does remain a threat. >> stay here. >> i just want to say, i agree with that. there, a point of agreement. >> stay here. t next, the final question for both of our guests and weigh in on our fireback question. is the u.s. getting fooled by iran? we'll have the results after the break.