the testimony as known from the facts of the opening statements that have been revealed to the general public. >> so jordan and meadow, it seems like a flashback to nunez to me. what is okay to tell the subject of an oversight committee investigation about a closed-door deposition in that investigation? >> there is nothing okay -- >> in those general contours. >> there is nothing okay. that's why they've come up with this cover-up scheme. in any investigation, generally it is secretive so one witness cannot hear what the other witness is testifying to so you can get a drive at the truth. >> but he's the president. >> no, especially when he is a subject to the investigation. >> it's all political and these guys believe in him. >> then again, he shouldn't be in the room. if they want to violate what's supposed to happen in the room, then they should not be in the room. and then they go out and try to say that there's no republicans