25-year-old unarmed black man who was out jogging. the attorney for one of the defendants is denying that he offered a plea bargain to prosecutors even though arbery's mother says she learned about it from the district attorney. joining me now, cornel west. he is now the dietrich bon hiver chair at union theological seminary. did i get that right, sir? >> you got it right in new york city, blessed harlem. >> it's good to see you in person. we've been talking to each other over satellite. professor, it was the same defense attorney who complained about black pastors being in the courtroom now comparing a prayer rally outside the courthouse to a public lynching. what do you make of that? >> well, you know, my dear brother, it's just another sign of the profound spiritual decay and pervasive moral decadence that's at work in our culture and society. you see, once you have organized