carefully. >> the russians are not being careful, steve, president zelenskyy just moments ago in what has become basically his nightly address said ukraine has captured quote thousands of russian soldiers. ukraine also claims it has killed or captured around 12,000 russian soldiers. so you got 12,000 killed and thousands captured. according to ukrainians. steve, do you think any of those numbers could possibly be true? >> yeah, i think it is possible that they're true. now, you know, are they likely to be inflated? you know, wishful thinking or you know the difficulty getting information from a battlefield? possible. it's clear the russians have lost a lot more personnel and troops on the ground than they anticipated. that will have an impact in putin's calculations as well at the end of the day i think. >> thank you both very much. next, who is one of the faces of those injured after an attack on a maternity ward and russia claims the photo was