treatment as evan just said, for addiction and his sobriety saying, quote, he seemed great. he seemed hopeful she also said she never saw him doing drugs. how effective was she for hunter biden's defense? >> i think white is very impactful. i truly do. first of all, it's a daughter and that's going to sit with the jury. plus what she said was not as much factually. right. but it's the hope it's the hope that she has for her data. so hope that her dad had for himself and they're trying to focus that on that period of time because obviously you augment is i didn't not know i was addicted. therefore, when i signed the document that were assigned it, i sounded honestly and openly because it not think i was an addict. so the daughter really helps in that regard. it is a somewhat thinly veiled target. the heartstrings as well. >> and again, you have to be careful with that with the jury, with the strength of the prosecution case so far mark the defense says they haven't decided if a hunter biden is going to testify, they have until monday to make that