I like to, you know, mix it up. Tagging down the texas one time. Mhm. Sorry ufo down there. Was about 1976. Thats right, joined with what was called the ufo called. But anyway, i didnt. I didnt have any sex with aliens or anything like that. In other parts of that i can keep on talking about but. I dont want to feed people out. And see here. This book was written by didnt know. The cover says how and when heavens gate and the biggest letters the door to the physical kingdom level above human maybe entered. As the two older members put out a statement. Held Public Meetings over about a nine month period in 1975 76. To bring their crew together. The media tagged them the ufo cult. Because of their expectation of leaving aboard spacecraft. The two older members then went into seclusion with their crew. After that nine month period. Of Holding Meetings around the country. T and i felt like we had instruction to call the students together. And to begin an intensive or in depth classroom training program. The numbers started dwindling cut about 50 to somewhere in the forties or fifties. And then we started. Really getting down to the nitty gritty. The point that i want to stress mostly, yes. That you are in a classroom 24 hours a day. Everything that happens to you. Is to see how you can respond as a member of the next level, not as a human, everything timely thing you do alone or with someone else is a test. In other words, you are striving to be perfect. There are no teachers in the next one. Were your teachers now. They said it was going to be the most difficult process that a human could bark upon. And its not likely that we would all make it. They put this together out of everything they thought was important. This is a list of their their behavioral guidelines. These were distributed in november. 1976 read is very extreme. If youre not a member, it is sped. These are the guidelines of how next level members if you dont want to do those, then youre not welcome. The first one is can you follow instructions without adding your own interpretation to can you deliver instructions as you receive them, or do they change according to your programming three. Do you participate in inconsiderate conversation before you physically clumsy break five. Do you halfway complete a task because six put tasks off. Procrastinate strict obedience and accuracy were demanded for entry to the next level, so every task was regulated. You were not to come up with. Well im going to make the pancakes this big. There was a mixture a size. How many person got how the syrup was poured on it. Everything. Im staying in my own head having private thoughts, taking any action without using my Check Partner. Heavens gate practiced the system called the czech partner system Check Partner would be assigned to you to make sure that you are following the rules. Carry up with the person youre least likely want to be with. And i didnt have a lot of rough street edges, so they gave me this really crazy, hyper speed freak. Street person guy that was like hard to be around. Major offenses. Lying to my teachers or any of my classmates , breaking any instruction or procedure knowingly. Sensuality permitting, arouse and thought or an action. Whats left, right . Right . Someone would think if i followed all these things, 100. Then i would be a robot. I didnt like what i saw because the rigidity and the was a turn off to me, i would never submit to anything. That was controlled. I dont anything that controls people. Thats why i became a hippie. I did not like control. And those two things. I just thought, thats you know. I dont want to be involved anymore. 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Everyone interprets the truth at his own level of understanding. This is like alternate facts, right . This is very relevant to today. These people were very ahead of time. Yeah. Reality is not something you escape from. Reality is something you escaped to. So that means youre not really living in reality. What cults need to do is to turn you into a conformist, you know, to get you hopefully to become a true believer. They need to break down you and create a new you. When youre in the process of overcoming this vehicle, it loses its identity loses the consciousness of who it was. The deepest part of the indoctrination came when they were convinced that they were not human beings. They were convinced that they were actually these beings from the next level above and that they were essentially living inside these human shells, which they called vehicles. Well use the term of vehicle when we speak of this body that were wearing this flesh and bones. Because they dont relate to it. Its not me. Its just a suit of clothes that i bear any religious group has its own terminology. As you join the group. You have to learn the language. Its sort of an unofficial initiation process. They didnt explain it when they changed the terminology. But all these terms terminology changes also changed the way we thought about things so it didnt stimulate memories. One of the things that helps you and this is this was kind of adopted in a way and the catholic church. When nuns and monks that isolate themselves and thoughtful studying conditions. They take another name. It helps distance associate them with the family tree. Around 1977 members of heavens gate effectively became monks and nuns. They became monastics whatever they were selling bits. They were living exclusively for trying to achieve this sort of this entrance to the heaven to the next level, and they were given new names. The system that eventually was was used by t. Endo was to use a single syllable, effectively a first name and then a shared last name, which always ended in od. T. Endo said that the next level was adopting us. Into their family. So the family name was o d. Y if i were in the group, and my name was rob, i would be rather body. Three continents always capitalized rbb. And then o d y all the names were six letters. And so i became soyo tea. Hi dave od. Theres a load e g od even t v, you know the golden notice we call him tall od because hes a little taller than logo. T od is a diminutive certain means a little member and that followed your star od were little members of the Kingdom Of Heaven. Its like the diminutive for god, and theyre all on their way to becoming gods. And that when we became adults, and they would drop the y so wed be the family of odd. Which is like a little next level humor because we were kind of odd. They began wearing uniforms and they had a unisex look very short hair woman wore no makeup. They had Slacks Tenis Church that they wore button clear to the top long sleeved. If you had a look that you were attached to if youd worn a beard, you know, for years and years should get rid of all that and adopt a new appearance in the same way that she took a new name, because those were all things that symbolize your identity as a human. Before clear choice. Dental health was so bad i would be in a lot of pain wasnt able to eat. It was very hard. Kimberly came to clear choice with a bunch of missing teeth struggling with pain with dental disease. Clear choice dental implants solved her dental issues. I feel so much better feel energized to go outside and play with my daughter. I can eat anything like i dont have to worry. Clear choice changed my life. Yeah im jill and ive lost £56 on goal. Oh barry and ive lost £42. Jill and i were a team is she tells me to do something i usually jump on board was doable. Its realistic and its something we can do the rest of our lives. 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One thing you have to consider what we as individuals wanted to become. I think everyone in this class wanted something more than the Human World Head offer they were seeking some type of goodness, some type of rightness that they did not feel in this world. Im seeing people actually develop into what i always wanted to believe. Develop into ad. Its like i want to go out and put headlines on all the newspapers, saying its possible to overcome the humanist because im seeing it happen. Having that kind of discipline and struggling through it, and knowing that youre all struggling through it together creates a sense of family, which is part of what binds people to these groups. And when you think about years and years and years of that, um that thats what makes it so difficult for people to leave. This is the only world they know. So hard not to get choked up when you talk about this, but i met the people that are here. I met my teachers, tendo and i knew that i knew all of them and that they were my family. And, uh, ive been happy ever since. I mean, its been tough. Anybody whos been honest like she said, you get hit with everything but the kitchen. Same. Trying to turn your way, but its been wonderful. And making the decision that we made to do this. We know that we broke hearts. We know that we hurt people dont take that lightly. We didnt want to hurt anyone. Unfortunately its the individuals that these vehicles cared for the most. That are actually the greatest threat to us. Endo were almost paranoid, the extent that they were afraid they were being tracked by ex members, family members. One of the repercussions is they were constantly on the move. During the late seventies, they moved from campground to campground and campground. They never quit camping entirely. But in 1978, they finally had to move into houses. Apparently some members had inherited some money and one of the ex members who was close to bo and peep estimated that it was somewhere between 305 100,000. And at that point, they began renting mansions. My cousin david, his dad was the president of the new england fun company. And for the 1st seven years old, we lived off of his trust fund. They liked upscale suburban neighborhoods. Nice houses, big houses in quiet upper middle class areas. They would move people in and none of the neighbors would know. We would live 15 people in a house and there was designated people that could go outside. And the same people were seen outside all the time. So it appeared as though there was just a few People Living in a house. We didnt tell our currents, but we were doing baby. Just dad was well off lots of resources and connections. The fbi and even traveling country. Fbi agents looking for us. This is Marshall Herff Applewhites fbi report. Theres a letter from a concerned parent, which was sent to a congressman. Forwarded to the fbi. Um and the fbi. Beautifully responded and said, theres really not much we can do about this group through consenting adults. There wasnt worried about the government so much as family members, um, intervening. The magnetism of tea and does 19 year old David Nancy Browns son. I couldnt believe that he was really going off to do this, and i had to have some knowledge of why . I mean, after all, youve spent 18 years raising a child. He was now 19 and he said, you know, i cant ever picture myself just living a kind of life that most people take to be normal. He left and 75. This was now in 1980. Apparently some parents and people have tried hired private investigators and nobodys been able to find out anything about them. There was a formation of a Parents Network by the late seventies, led by a woman named nancy brown. So any time there was any news that the heavens gate members are part of heavens gate was in a certain location she would notify, folks. And this is a newsletter from from that network. There were many years. Friends. This is just what. As the years passed with no word from David Nancy Brown feared for his safety. Reached the Pit Of Despair when the jonestown news broken 79. I remember sitting there watching this horrifying sight of bodies scattered around the compound like crumpled leaves. It was just this little message in my heart all the time. Where is he . Is he all right . Is he alive . Will i ever see him again . Getting back to the newsletter. I dont even know what ill fuss is about that has been made out of nothing really. Because it isnt unusual for Sons And Daughters to leave home and do what they want to do. Thank all of your families are not with the network. You got any to it . Dont any of you who arent with them . Tell them about. 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