and purposes the model, the template. >> it was really difficult to watch because we were getting less publicity. >> we were on fox. they were on nbc. would the narrative and the conversations about our success or the degree of our success be different if we were on, let's say, nbc? of course. >> i never watched "friends" because they could not possibly find a way to add anybody of color. >> it was to a certain extent a product of the time period. and of my own ignorance. there were black shows and there were white shows. there weren't a lot of shows that were interracial. i guess at the time i was thinking, this is what i know. this is what i know. >> okay. >> i hear you. we can talk about that. >> "friends" is not based on "living single." "friends" is based on marta kaufman and david crane's life experiences.