is the point here? ted cruz is not caucasian? >> yes, yes! yes! >> -- this comes as a surprise to nobody, because east been in iowa so often. that fell flat in the room, i can tell you. >> yet, that's exactly what he's trying to do. >> it's also the trouble trump has in going after cruz. trump has been very one note. one someone threatens him in a state, he goes after them personally. the difference here is that trump supporters don't like jeb bush. they don't necessarily like marco rubio. they do like ted cruz. if trump starts going after cruz, it could ricochet back on him as well. >> and one of the interesting conversations, and i think it will get more interesting because of the prospect of trump starting to lose and what does he do? does he lash out? he could be a traditional politician and say, cruz is going to get iowa, i'll camp out in new hampshire and try to play the chess that most candidates play. but that's not the trump name. trump is about winning. one of the things he's talked about as republicans say, is this going to drag on, are we going to have an open