mr. arbery is going to run towards travis. first time, turns around and goes back and the second time he'll turn around and go back and that's where that video will pick him on the second time. so the first time ahmaud arbery comes across that dogleg, he's coming at travis. at this moment he's looking into travis' eyes, and he's come at him and ultimately is going to get within ten feet of him running while travis is saying stop, do not come any closer. stop right there. stop. no gun in his hand. just saying stop, do not come any closer. at this moment travis has already had his experience obviously where he reached for the gun before, where he was acting boemptd he's not going to forgot that.