>> right. >> more importantly, where do judges come down to what she said was protecting the best interest of this child. >> that's it. that's how she got around it, the best interest. >> she said the kid is going to get teased in a christian where does her balance go off? >> she ruled it's in the best interest of her child, in her opinion, to have the name martin and not messiah. is it her decision at all? this is a parental decision. by the way, the parents came in to change the last name. they didn't know what the last name should be. the judge decided it will be the mother's and the father's last name hyphenated. >> they were arguing what last name the baby should have? >> and she changed the first name. >> did a holy -- holy you know what. >> exactly. judge has the jurisdiction to make jurisdictions in the best interest of the child. that's how she's getting around the church versus state argument, i think. >> pretty astounding. it's going to be reversed on appeal. we'll continue to watch this. thank you, tom. thank you, jean. >> thank you.