and flight data recorder were cut off. in this case it's not going to happen. in this case it's so crucial to have the flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorder intact and readable. it brings me back to a point that myself and david soucie and other safety experts have been harping on. there should be some way when there is a distress situation, a nonresponsive crew to have streaming data from the aircraft. it's totally possible. totally technically possible. the airlines just don't want to pay for it without regulatory enforcement. >> it's what we've discussed each time unfortunately when there's been a crash. we know the cockpit voice recorder has been found. it's downloaded they've been accessing the information, that's how we learned one of the pilots was outside the cockpit. but the elusive flight data recorder we don't believe it's been located yet. let's talk about where this is around your image in our big wall. we can see the french alps very high terrain, very high