is synonymous with learning because for some kids being under a timed condition makes them nervous and kids who are reflective thinkers and have to kind of survey information in their minds don't always do as well under testing environments. and so it's important to be mindful of those principles of human learning and thought within a testing environment. >> i think you've just described my oldest daughter. she'll probably hate me for bringing this up. i feel she understands topics but under testing conditions it does tend to be a little different for her. maybe it's the pressure. i'm not sure. he's eight years old and they use a lot of technology now in the classrooms. ipads and screens and different things. i mean what do you think of that? helpful or harmful? >> i think the technology is wonderful. you know, if you think about learning happens best when you're engaging a lot of your senses and we shouldn't underestimate the impact that reaching and touching have in