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mypillow discounts at this so-called symposium? >> his business crumbling. kicked out of the retail stores, as you know, jim, and have reported. so he has gone on to all of these random bizarre podcasts and got on these podcasts, quite frankly, because revenue splits with them so he offers major discounts. a lot of these will get a cut of that and this entire symposium will also contain these kind of massive sales pitches. so while, indeed, he is pushing this conspiracy theory, he's pushing very heavily, pillows. >> no question about it. and drew, lindell's offering $5 million to anyone who can prove him wrong. does he have that much money? sounds like he might have to write a lot of those checks. >> yeah, i just don't know. obviously, he's going to try to worm out of this. he doesn't have any kind of specific information about the vote switching. that's just ridiculous, jim. but he's wording this in such a

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