inspiration. that's how he saw himself. and so any outcome that leaves him looking weak or leaves him looking like he has -- he has blinked or seeded ground he would not find acceptable. >> he would view that as paralysis of power. i want to go to the viewer question. this viewer asks, what do you think will be the end game with all of this? how long are we looking at? i know it's hard. you don't have a crystal ball but given what you know about putin, what would you say to this viewer. >> well, i mean there are biographies and intelligence analysts who would give more informed views. mine is based on what he has written. you know, it's very hard to estimate or guess how long this conflict will go on. but when you think of an end game, i think you end up with a various unthinkable scenarios. the ukrainians have shown relink issuing assembles of nationhood is unthinkable to them even if