>> well, i believed him when he assured me that when i first found it, but he did end up loading it at one point. >> what's that? >> he loaded it at one point in early december. >> whether he loaded, that's something you didn't tell us before, right? >> i mentioned it. i didn't say he loaded it in early december, but i mentioned at one point it was unloaded and one point he used it. >> so you're saying he used it, right? >> when you're saying he used it, i know he took it to go do something. >> right. and this is something we're hearing for the first time, right? >> no, i mentioned it briefly, it just wasn't expounded upon. >> okay. and this gun that you say that you saw him load, even though you saw him load it, you believed on june 4th of 2008 was unloaded, right? >> i didn't know. i didn't check it. >> did i ask you if you checked it, ma'am? >> objection. she's answering the question. that's argumentative. >> sustained. >> i'm asking for your state of mind. did you believe or not believe