>> you mean right now? >> those are for the pilot. we had bob tortoricci was our costumer for the actual series, not the pilot. he put us in -- he would come into our dressing room, say tom, i think we're going to start you out in fuchsia. >> very serious. >> very serious. >> holding up fabric. can you put on this wrap. you know what we were told, i'm sure you'll recall, the drag element, that's just going to be for the pilot. that's just going to be, we're going to get the series sold that way, and then you guys can go on and be hip, clever young guys. >> all the ladies, holland and wendy and thelma, donna, they were all down on the other end of the stage. we had dressing rooms right next to the makeup room. right across the hall from each other. >> so we could get in and out of the wigs -- >> right. we would be leaning in each other's doorway with pantyhose on and foundation garments. >> with the fake bazooms.