we do not want any more black faces that do not want to be a block voice. we don't want any more brown faces that don't want to be a brown voice. literally word for word i'm not putting words in anyone's mouth. ibram kendi brought how to be anti racist. i wrote -- his sold more copies in mine. here's what it says, opening lines, the remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. the remedy to present discrimination's future discrimination. -- gas that you need to the stuff you just making that critical races stuff up, no, these are not my words. these are the words of the modern grant wizards of the modern. >> the man he's talking about there, ibram kendi, joins me now. he is the author of as mr. vivek ramaswamy say's, how to be an anti racist and is also the director of center for anti racist research at boston