sources always go to sympathetic reporters. i have not met a source that goes to a reporter -- >> someone they would deem to be unsympathetic. >> right. >> and the facts have indeed held up. let's talk about the way in which the story or the narrative, the media narrative have swirled around edward snowden, saint or sinner. is this a simplification, paul farhi, of a very complicated set of questions about government surveillance, civil liberties and privacy? >> well, i disagree with glenn on this. it's not ville fiction, it's an attempt to find out who this guy is, what his motivations are and where he's coming from. yes, there's going to be opinions you don't like about this, but to criticize the search for understanding is absurd. i'd like to know more about him and what he's all about.