in this case, that you've seen, do you have an opinion, an ultimate opinion in your expertise about whether or not miss arias was an abused -- in an abusive relationship? >> yes, i believe she was in an abusive relationship. >> and do you believe in your expert opinion that jodi was a battered woman, or is a battered woman? >> yes, i do. >> but martinez tore into the defense experts. >> i'm sorry. i don't see it that way. >> right. you wouldn't see it that way because you have feelings for the defendant, right? >> i beg your pardon, sir. >> you seem to be having trouble answering my question. >> i have trouble -- >> if you have a problem understanding the question, ask me that. if you want to -- do you want to spar with me? will that affect the way you view your testimony? >> objection. argumentative. sustained. >> and on his final exchange with jodi arias martinez made perhaps his most important point, that she is a liar. >> so you lied to him, right?